ssr bus hopers

[paulh]

thraed over on uk board http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1892281 and there stating its ok to use buses to ssr to get to downtown disney.even the board mod thinks its ok,please put them right
Paulh

 

[Doctor P]

Actually, it IS alright to use the buses to SSR to get to DD whether people like that or not. The WDW transportation system is a full system in which all guests have access to all means of transportation. Since there is NO direct transportation to DD from any theme park or water park using the SSR transportation to get there is an appropriate strategy for using the WDW transportation system. It may be a flaw in the system, but it is both allowed and reasonable to use the system in that manner just as it is appropriate for people to take a bus to BCV in order to enter Epcot through the International Gateway.

 

[zumfelde]

It is NOT ok to use the SSR bus to get to DTD. These buses are paid for by owners at SSR. There is a reason there are not direct buses to DTD.

 

[paulh]

Actually, it IS alright to use the buses to SSR to get to DD whether people like that or not. The WDW transportation system is a full system in which all guests have access to all means of transportation. Since there is NO direct transportation to DD from any theme park or water park using the SSR transportation to get there is an appropriate strategy for using the WDW transportation system. It may be a flaw in the system, but it is both allowed and reasonable to use the system in that manner just as it is appropriate for people to take a bus to BCV in order to enter Epcot through the International Gateway.

yes i acept that onsite guests can use it,but op isnot staying onsite.the ticket media lets you use it to and from parks,from park to a hotel to look around or have a meal,but not to get to someware elce onsite ie downtown disney.one of the reasons diney removed the buses from parks to DD was to cut this out,because folks were parking there and using buses to get to parks without paying for parking
Paulh

 

[Doctor P]

It is NOT ok to use the SSR bus to get to DTD. These buses are paid for by owners at SSR. There is a reason there are not direct buses to DTD.

I sorry, but you are totally wrong about that. There is no bus, nor any other means of transportation in the WDW transportation system, that is limited other than by type of ticket or A resort ID (not a particular resort ID). You may be frustrated, but I can guarantee you that the owners are not paying 100% of the costs of the bus service at SSR or any other DVC resort, either.

 

[zorro77]

It is ok to use SSR to get to DTD. We have 755 pts of DVC and have stayed at OKW our home but have also been to many other resorts on pts. As others said to get to DTD from a park this is sometimes best route. If you look more into it as long as you are on Disney Property you can use buses to get to other resorts to eat,visit,shop or use pools if allowed. I see people on OKW buses all the time coming to eat and then back to their other resort.

 

[Doctor P]

yes i acept that onsite guests can use it,but op isnot staying onsite.the ticket media lets you use it to and from parks,from park to a hotel to look around or have a meal,but not to get to someware elce onsite ie downtown disney.one of the reasons diney removed the buses from parks to DD was to cut this out,because folks were parking there and using buses to get to parks without paying for parking
Paulh

Not true. The problem is PARKING at DD. Also, it's as much as issue of making sure that they have enough parking for the customers of DD merchants and attractions as it is trying to avoid the parking fees. I agree that people should not be parking at DD to access the theme parks, and the system makes it harder to do so. But, don't confuse the particular issue. If I am staying at OKW and am at MK, I can ride the bus to SSR to go to DD without violating any rules or standards of conduct.

 

[paulh]

I sorry, but you are totally wrong about that. There is no bus, nor any other means of transportation in the WDW transportation system, that is limited other than by type of ticket or A resort ID (not a particular resort ID). You may be frustrated, but I can guarantee you that the owners are not paying 100% of the costs of the bus service at SSR or any other DVC resort, either.

if your using the buses your supposed to show valid resort id if going to a resort,but they never ask
Paulh

 

[spiceycat]

disagree - DTD guests should not be using SSR buses only - and right now they are.

for Epcot - BC or BW is closer and you take a bus directly to DTD - but Disney is not saying that

for MK - Cr has direct transportation to DTD.

feel like Disney is having DVC members pay for this - because most of the bus transportation is PAID for by members. If you don't believe me - go look at the budget stuff we are send - there is something for transportation.

before SSR opened - it was OKW - not DI (which was still open at the time) where they were sending DTD.

still think disney is only sending these people to SSR because it is the closest.

then are you working for Disney?

the only place where SSR could be the best solution is AK. not EPcot, studios, and MK as well.

studios would be BW or D/s.

 

[paulh]

Not true. The problem is PARKING at DD. Also, it's as much as issue of making sure that they have enough parking for the customers of DD merchants and attractions as it is trying to avoid the parking fees. I agree that people should not be parking at DD to access the theme parks, and the system makes it harder to do so. But, don't confuse the particular issue. If I am staying at OKW and am at MK, I can ride the bus to SSR to go to DD without violating any rules or standards of conduct.

i havent stated that onsite guests carnt use the buses to get everywere,its the ofsite guets that i have aproblem with
Paulh

 

[Chuck S]

if your using the buses your supposed to show valid resort id if going to a resort,but they never ask
Paulh

And where is this rule written or publicized? It did indeed used to be that way, but you have not had to show resort ID for nearly 15 years.

The transportation system, all of it, is open to all multi day ticket guests, Disney makes no distinction, and in fact the SSR route is recommended by WDW transportation CMs.

If you do not like it, write to DVC Member Satisfaction. I think they should return to resort ID for resort busses, but that is not likely to happen, given fuel costs.

 

[paulh]

And where is this rule written or publicized? It did indeed used to be that way, but you have not had to show resort ID for nearly 15 years.

i have read it,honest gov.but for the life of me carnt find it anyware.only thing i can find if staying onsite

Disney Transportation
Save time and money thanks to complimentary transportation throughout Walt Disney World® Resort, including motor coaches, water taxis and the Monorail.
Enjoy door-to-door service that delivers you just steps from the Theme Park gates.
Feel free to enjoy all the fun without worrying about driving.

But rest asured i`ll find it
Paulh

 

[paulh]

found something

Who can use Disney Transportation
Whether or not you can "legally" use WDW's transportation system depends on two things. First, all "park hopper" admission media permits the bearer to use WDW's transportation. Annual Pass holders, for example, are permitted full use of the system. Second, guests of Disney-owned and operated resorts are permitted full use of the system during the duration of their stay. It is possible, literally, to use airport shuttle transportation to take you to and from your Disney resort and use only Disney transportation during your entire visit. With the WDW transportation system at your beck and call, and the fact that all Disney resorts are located right on the grounds, you are normally within forty-five minutes of your room no matter where you are in WDW.

Paulh

 

[Claire L]

I tend to agree that using a resort bus to get from A to B via C (the resort) is taking up a place for the C (resort staying person).

Perhaps for those staying off site, especially those without a car and who want to visit DTD a bus from the TTC would be a good idea, is there such a bus? Then they would not need to use a resort bus and also it does not go directly to any park.

Claire

 

[paulh]

I tend to agree that using a resort bus to get from A to B via C (the resort) is taking up a place for the C (resort staying person).

Perhaps for those staying off site, especially those without a car and who want to visit DTD a bus from the TTC would be a good idea, is there such a bus? Then they would not need to use a resort bus and also it does not go directly to any park.

Claire

there used to be a few years ago.but people were parking at DD then using bus to park,thus not having to pay for parking.to me the folks with tickets art a problem its the people from the LBV area hotels using the ssr bus,which is the problem
Paulh

 

[Chuck S]

I tend to agree that using a resort bus to get from A to B via C (the resort) is taking up a place for the C (resort staying person).

Perhaps for those staying off site, especially those without a car and who want to visit DTD a bus from the TTC would be a good idea, is there such a bus? Then they would not need to use a resort bus and also it does not go directly to any park.

Claire

There used to be such a bus, yes. But people were parking at DtD to avoid the MK parking fees, and the DtD lot was filling up in the morning. Thus the direct park to DtD busses were discontinued. The solution is simple, Disney needs to have a parking fee at DtD, if you are parked over 3 hours, maybe 5 hours with a dinner and movie validation. No charge for onsite guests or AP holders.

 

[Chuck S]

there used to be a few years ago.but people were parking at DD then using bus to park,thus not having to pay for parking.to me the folks with tickets art a problem its the people from the LBV area hotels using the ssr bus,which is the problem
Paulh

The LBV Host hotels have park bus service. So do most offsite hotels along US 192. Either way, a multi day park pass allows use of the entire transportation system.

 

[Claire L]

there used to be a few years ago.but people were parking at DD then using bus to park,thus not having to pay for parking.to me the folks with tickets art a problem its the people from the LBV area hotels using the ssr bus,which is the problem
Paulh

TTC doesn't take you directly to a park so you are in the same position as if you had parked in the TTC parking lot, you still need to use some form of transport get to the park.

Another answer would be to charge for DTD parking or limit the time for free parking to say 3 hours, unless of course staying onsite or have an AP.

I cannot see a way round the off site, non driving, guest wanting to visit DTD other than having a bus from TTC to DTD, as using a resort bus does impact on those paying a premium to stay at the resort and if the bus was direct it may be more attractive than going via a resort.

Claire

 

[Claire L]

The solution is simple, Disney needs to have a parking fee at DtD, if you are parked over 3 hours, maybe 5 hours with a dinner and movie validation. No charge for onsite guests or AP holders.

Lol was wording and thinking about the logistics of my reply when you had already posted my thoughts!!

Claire

 

[Claire L]

There used to be such a bus, yes. But people were parking at DtD to avoid the MK parking fees, and the DtD lot was filling up in the morning. Thus the direct park to DtD busses were discontinued.

But even by going DTD to TTC you need to get across to MK, be it monorail or boat, whereas the resort buses go directly outside MK. I am surprised people took the DTD-TTC-park option as it can be very time consuming.

Claire