Spin-off: Are Pets Allowed in Stores?

The town of Carmel and monterey.are very dog friendly and are welcomed in the stores. The regular grocery store or in the restaurants ( inside) most can sit on the patios.
 
No, it's more about people thinking rules don't apply to them.

Alrighty, I'm about to be slammed but my personal opinion here:

When it was "seeing eye dogs" with the vests and those leashes with the bar, it was never questioned and you'd see the occassionally "little old lady" with the tiny dog in her purse.

It seems with the advent of the service/therapy no questions can be asked where someone has to show documentation, people have used it for an excuse to bring their dogs everywhere. I'm done with PC. I think people need to take on the ADA and require a tag or vest that includes service and therapy dogs. Same as the GAC/DAS, people abuse, the laws/rules need to tighten up.

Case in point: my daughter is a district mgr for 6 McD's. Her car was broke, I had to go get her. While eating a cone inside, there was a dog itching and itching (I can't prove it but best guess, lots of flees)walking over to the other table where another family was eating, eating french fries off the floor under that family's baby's high chair. The people with the dog were laughing and encouraging the dog to clean up their mess.

Workers are FEARFUL due to all the lawsuits to ask any of these dogs to leave.

I work for a state office with a small lobby. I was speaking to someone at the counter. A lady walks in with a large dog. Very pretty, looked like a large poodle? Another person in the lobby asked her if her daughter could pet him and the woman said no, he may bite. The woman I was talking to asked her "I thought service dogs were trained not to bite" and the woman with the dog said "oh, he's not a service dog, I just didn't want to leave him home alone".
I would never consider bringing my fluffy into a government office, it wouldn't even be on my radar to give it a thought.

I have a Bichon. I take him with me sometimes in the car to a friends or to pick up daughter, etc. It's hot here in CA. There is absolutely nothing that is an emergency stop that I cannot come home, drop the dog off and run back to the store for.

If a dog isn't trained well enough to stay home for 30 minutes, it's not trained well enough to be in a store with people. At least with the dogs with legitimate service animal tags, you knew they were trained. With everyone bringing fluffy in, you have no idea if that dog will suddenly turn on someone.

As someone who was bit by a dog and had to have rabie shots due to not finding the dog, I am not amused by those who believe non trained animals belong everywhere. It's becoming an entitlement mentality.
 
Alrighty, I'm about to be slammed but my personal opinion here:

When it was "seeing eye dogs" with the vests and those leashes with the bar, it was never questioned and you'd see the occassionally "little old lady" with the tiny dog in her purse.

It seems with the advent of the service/therapy no questions can be asked where someone has to show documentation, people have used it for an excuse to bring their dogs everywhere. I'm done with PC. I think people need to take on the ADA and require a tag or vest that includes service and therapy dogs. Same as the GAC/DAS, people abuse, the laws/rules need to tighten up.

Case in point: my daughter is a district mgr for 6 McD's. Her car was broke, I had to go get her. While eating a cone inside, there was a dog itching and itching (I can't prove it but best guess, lots of flees)walking over to the other table where another family was eating, eating french fries off the floor under that family's baby's high chair. The people with the dog were laughing and encouraging the dog to clean up their mess.

Workers are FEARFUL due to all the lawsuits to ask any of these dogs to leave.

I work for a state office with a small lobby. I was speaking to someone at the counter. A lady walks in with a large dog. Very pretty, looked like a large poodle? Another person in the lobby asked her if her daughter could pet him and the woman said no, he may bite. The woman I was talking to asked her "I thought service dogs were trained not to bite" and the woman with the dog said "oh, he's not a service dog, I just didn't want to leave him home alone".
I would never consider bringing my fluffy into a government office, it wouldn't even be on my radar to give it a thought.

I have a Bichon. I take him with me sometimes in the car to a friends or to pick up daughter, etc. It's hot here in CA. There is absolutely nothing that is an emergency stop that I cannot come home, drop the dog off and run back to the store for.

If a dog isn't trained well enough to stay home for 30 minutes, it's not trained well enough to be in a store with people. At least with the dogs with legitimate service animal tags, you knew they were trained. With everyone bringing fluffy in, you have no idea if that dog will suddenly turn on someone.

As someone who was bit by a dog and had to have rabie shots due to not finding the dog, I am not amused by those who believe non trained animals belong everywhere. It's becoming an entitlement mentality.
I agree with you.
 

Alrighty, I'm about to be slammed but my personal opinion here: When it was "seeing eye dogs" with the vests and those leashes with the bar, it was never questioned and you'd see the occassionally "little old lady" with the tiny dog in her purse. It seems with the advent of the service/therapy no questions can be asked where someone has to show documentation, people have used it for an excuse to bring their dogs everywhere. I'm done with PC. I think people need to take on the ADA and require a tag or vest that includes service and therapy dogs. Same as the GAC/DAS, people abuse, the laws/rules need to tighten up. Case in point: my daughter is a district mgr for 6 McD's. Her car was broke, I had to go get her. While eating a cone inside, there was a dog itching and itching (I can't prove it but best guess, lots of flees)walking over to the other table where another family was eating, eating french fries off the floor under that family's baby's high chair. The people with the dog were laughing and encouraging the dog to clean up their mess. Workers are FEARFUL due to all the lawsuits to ask any of these dogs to leave. I work for a state office with a small lobby. I was speaking to someone at the counter. A lady walks in with a large dog. Very pretty, looked like a large poodle? Another person in the lobby asked her if her daughter could pet him and the woman said no, he may bite. The woman I was talking to asked her "I thought service dogs were trained not to bite" and the woman with the dog said "oh, he's not a service dog, I just didn't want to leave him home alone". I would never consider bringing my fluffy into a government office, it wouldn't even be on my radar to give it a thought. I have a Bichon. I take him with me sometimes in the car to a friends or to pick up daughter, etc. It's hot here in CA. There is absolutely nothing that is an emergency stop that I cannot come home, drop the dog off and run back to the store for. If a dog isn't trained well enough to stay home for 30 minutes, it's not trained well enough to be in a store with people. At least with the dogs with legitimate service animal tags, you knew they were trained. With everyone bringing fluffy in, you have no idea if that dog will suddenly turn on someone. As someone who was bit by a dog and had to have rabie shots due to not finding the dog, I am not amused by those who believe non trained animals belong everywhere. It's becoming an entitlement mentality.

Totally agree.
 
It really depends on where you live.

I live in a VERY pet friendly area. While health regulations still do not allow any pets except service animals in grocery stores or restaurants, they are pretty much allowed everywhere else. It is very common to see dogs in stores, malls, etc.

Even at most of the restaurants, dogs are allowed on the patios. Restaurants even keep bowls of water on the patios for the dogs. They advertise that they are pet friendly as it is a feature people want around here.

Our Home Depot and Lowes have doggie treats at the checkout counters as do many other stores and businesses. Although, I think Home Depot and Lowes have a nationwide policy of being pet friendly.

I have even seen them in banks, in clothing stores, just about everywhere you go. If you don't like dogs, our city is not for you:goodvibes

But then, we were also the first town in the nation to make the ridiculous regulation that you don't "own" your dog, but you are the "guardian" of the dog.

Everything is certainly 'going to the dogs'! I believe all animals have their place, but just because everything is public, doesn't mean everyone likes to have dogs everywhere IMO (and everybody can have one, ;)).

You're right though, your city would not be for me! :)
 
I'd prefer the large dogs on a leash any day over the small snappy, snarly, barking beasts in strollers and armpits :scared:

Me too. Unfortunately all I see in my travels are the snappy, snarly, little dogs in baby strollers, purses and shopping carts.

Oh, and I just love the people who drive with their little dogs in their lap. That looks safe.:rolleyes1
 
Non-Service animals have no place in stores/restaurants unless they are pet specific types of stores....such as Petsmart.

...thankfully, people here dont seem to be taking their pets out to places where they dont belong.
 
Alrighty, I'm about to be slammed but my personal opinion here:

When it was "seeing eye dogs" with the vests and those leashes with the bar, it was never questioned and you'd see the occassionally "little old lady" with the tiny dog in her purse.

It seems with the advent of the service/therapy no questions can be asked where someone has to show documentation, people have used it for an excuse to bring their dogs everywhere. I'm done with PC. I think people need to take on the ADA and require a tag or vest that includes service and therapy dogs. Same as the GAC/DAS, people abuse, the laws/rules need to tighten up.

Case in point: my daughter is a district mgr for 6 McD's. Her car was broke, I had to go get her. While eating a cone inside, there was a dog itching and itching (I can't prove it but best guess, lots of flees)walking over to the other table where another family was eating, eating french fries off the floor under that family's baby's high chair. The people with the dog were laughing and encouraging the dog to clean up their mess.

Workers are FEARFUL due to all the lawsuits to ask any of these dogs to leave.

I work for a state office with a small lobby. I was speaking to someone at the counter. A lady walks in with a large dog. Very pretty, looked like a large poodle? Another person in the lobby asked her if her daughter could pet him and the woman said no, he may bite. The woman I was talking to asked her "I thought service dogs were trained not to bite" and the woman with the dog said "oh, he's not a service dog, I just didn't want to leave him home alone".
I would never consider bringing my fluffy into a government office, it wouldn't even be on my radar to give it a thought.

I have a Bichon. I take him with me sometimes in the car to a friends or to pick up daughter, etc. It's hot here in CA. There is absolutely nothing that is an emergency stop that I cannot come home, drop the dog off and run back to the store for.

If a dog isn't trained well enough to stay home for 30 minutes, it's not trained well enough to be in a store with people. At least with the dogs with legitimate service animal tags, you knew they were trained. With everyone bringing fluffy in, you have no idea if that dog will suddenly turn on someone.

As someone who was bit by a dog and had to have rabie shots due to not finding the dog, I am not amused by those who believe non trained animals belong everywhere. It's becoming an entitlement mentality.

Two paws up!
 
I see it quite a bit where I live. In Target and in the mall, But what really bothers me is the grocery store. As far as I know there are health regulations that don't allow it unless they are service animals, but I am not sure what kind of service animal it could be inside a designer "dog purse".
 
Many dogs die each year being shipped below a plane that is never an option for me! The funny thing is that you may have sat next to me and had absolutely no idea that my dog was traveling she has been trained since puppyhood. I spend $100-$150 per one way ticket for my dog to travel as carryon luggage. She is a highly trained performance sports athlete and traveling to all events via car is not possible. Give me a well trained dog over a crying screaming lap child any day of the week!

I do agree that animals should not be allowed in grocery stores and restaurants unless they are service animals. My dog would fit in a bag but we do not take her places that does not allow for animals. I even hesitate to bring her into chain pet stores due to owners with more dog than sense!
 
I've seen service dogs in stores and I don't have an issue with that. I just wish people knew not to pet or distract the dogs.

I've also seen regular dogs in shopping stores and in grocery stores. I don't think that is right. (Please no flaming)..Why? if smaller dogs are allowed then what happens when people with larger dogs feel it ok especially owners of pitbulls. I know not are pit bull are bad but the ones in my area are raised differently to be more rough :(

I was in Ross once and a teen girl walked by me with a long haired dog and it smelled bad! The issue I had was some long dog hair makes my allergies go crazy coughing and feeling like a hair ball in my throat!.

We don't have dogs and I've heard of guest showing up to other guest houses with dogs. We do have 2 family members like that but luckily they have never showed up with their dogs.
 
No one need show up at our house expecting their dogs/pets to be welcome inside. Our ds & family has 3 (yes 3) boxers and another dog with long hair, our dd has 2 cats and a huge dog (forgot it's type) and they both know better than to bring their 'managerie' in our home.

We love them all dearly, but as it's their choice to have inside animals, it's just as much our choice 'not' to have them, and they respect that. As for any other guests, we've never had an issue, it would better be a question asked by them before they would just show up.
 
I've seen a lot of people with small dogs in stores. The other day in Sephora I saw a woman with a pug in a baby carriage. :confused3 I've also seen small dogs in grocery stores, craft stores, Bed, Bath and Beyond.....everywhere!

What would happen if folks with large dogs decided to bring them everywhere? Can you imagine if people with Great Danes, Boxers, Retrievers and other large breeds decided to bring their dogs out to stores?

Maybe that woman with a pug in a baby carriage would think twice about bringing her pet to Sephora if she knew there was a chance it would come face to face with a big dog who was also out shopping. :rotfl:

Last year my DH and I were at Home Depot looking at Christmas trees. I was bent down reading a tree box at floor level. I turned my head and found a Husky staring at me, it was on a long leash and it's owner's had their backs turned to us. It was pretty disconcerting to say the least.

Luckily I am not afraid of dogs though both my husband and I are very allergic to them :sick: Some of my family members are really afraid of dogs. So while I have absolutely no problem with service dogs in stores I do have a problem with folks bringing in their dogs in just because. People who are afraid of dogs and allergic to them deserve to have a safe and pleasant shopping experience as well.
 
A barking dog is my biggest pet peeve. If a dog barks during a flight it needs to be muzzled. I'd rather have a kid kicking the back of my seat than hear a dog barking during the entire flight. :headache:

I'm glad our area hasn't gone whacky and dogs are everywhere you go. I don't mind seeing them at Petsmart or places like that but the grocery store, restaurants, malls? No, leave them home. And I will probably get flamed (but I don't care) but as for "therapy dogs?" Oh good grief. Go see a therapist and get over whatever's bothering you. I'm not talking about people who need dogs to warn of seizures or things like that, to me those dogs are in the same category as a seeing eye dog for the blind, they are needed. But "emotional support" dogs? Not so much.

I just can't imagine feeling the need to take your dog every single place you go. And some places make dogs nervous and it's sad for the dog that their owner puts them in that stressful situation.

And what I hate even more is seeing a dog in someone's car, sitting on their lap as they're driving. What happens to that poor dog if you get into an accident? And so many times the driver's window is down too, that poor dog is going to go flying right out the window and get killed. :(
 
If only I had $1 for every little dog I've seen being carried around stores in a knockoff LV pet carrier.
 
Alrighty, I'm about to be slammed but my personal opinion here:

When it was "seeing eye dogs" with the vests and those leashes with the bar, it was never questioned and you'd see the occassionally "little old lady" with the tiny dog in her purse.

It seems with the advent of the service/therapy no questions can be asked where someone has to show documentation, people have used it for an excuse to bring their dogs everywhere. I'm done with PC. I think people need to take on the ADA and require a tag or vest that includes service and therapy dogs. Same as the GAC/DAS, people abuse, the laws/rules need to tighten up.

Case in point: my daughter is a district mgr for 6 McD's. Her car was broke, I had to go get her. While eating a cone inside, there was a dog itching and itching (I can't prove it but best guess, lots of flees)walking over to the other table where another family was eating, eating french fries off the floor under that family's baby's high chair. The people with the dog were laughing and encouraging the dog to clean up their mess.

Workers are FEARFUL due to all the lawsuits to ask any of these dogs to leave.

I work for a state office with a small lobby. I was speaking to someone at the counter. A lady walks in with a large dog. Very pretty, looked like a large poodle? Another person in the lobby asked her if her daughter could pet him and the woman said no, he may bite. The woman I was talking to asked her "I thought service dogs were trained not to bite" and the woman with the dog said "oh, he's not a service dog, I just didn't want to leave him home alone".
I would never consider bringing my fluffy into a government office, it wouldn't even be on my radar to give it a thought.

I have a Bichon. I take him with me sometimes in the car to a friends or to pick up daughter, etc. It's hot here in CA. There is absolutely nothing that is an emergency stop that I cannot come home, drop the dog off and run back to the store for.

If a dog isn't trained well enough to stay home for 30 minutes, it's not trained well enough to be in a store with people. At least with the dogs with legitimate service animal tags, you knew they were trained. With everyone bringing fluffy in, you have no idea if that dog will suddenly turn on someone.

As someone who was bit by a dog and had to have rabie shots due to not finding the dog, I am not amused by those who believe non trained animals belong everywhere. It's becoming an entitlement mentality.
Exactly. You nailed it. Due to abuse and fear of lawsuits, the time has come for the law to be changed. Give ID to service animals so businesses can ask for easy verification and the liars and abusers can be kept out.
 


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