Soooooooo over disney food quality and prices.

[Peter Pirate 2]

It sounds like you chose the wrong UO restaurants unfortunately. We live close to WDW & UO & visit both often. The food at Universal is consistently better than at WDW at the same price point. I'm not saying you'll get a better meal for a lot less. In our experience, you get a better quality for the price. That said, we rarely eat CS at either set of parks, so my experience is based mostly on TS. We ate a CS breakfast at UO many years ago. That meal wasn't good. That's the only time we've eaten CS there. We typically eat 2 TS meals a day, which is what we do at WDW also.

I agree one hundred percent!

 

[Tropical Wilds]

Tropical Wilds, what I meant when I spoke of loving to cook with herbs and spicies, and can cook(wasn't bragging). The poster I was responding to - Georgia Hoo - was insinuating that I loved the food at Disney ( even though I think feeding that many meals, it can indeed, be hit or miss sometimes) because I didn't know what good food tasted like. I was just informing him/her that I can understand restaurants, and quality, but I still feel like if you don't like it don't go there, period - especially when you have a car and can go off site if you want to.

No, I got what you meant. I was backing you up, saying that I agreed that your being somebody who liked to cook kind of supports that you like food. It's not like you eat at McD's every night and you think Disney's menu is positively thrilling because it's better than the McNuggets you have every night. You cook, you have a palate, so it's not like you can be fed garbage and think it's gold. I'm the same way.

 

[North of Mouse]

No, I got what you meant. I was backing you up, saying that I agreed that your being somebody who liked to cook kind of supports that you like food. It's not like you eat at McD's every night and you think Disney's menu is positively thrilling because it's better than the McNuggets you have every night. You cook, you have a palate, so it's not like you can be fed garbage and think it's gold. I'm the same way.

Sorry, my mistake, I misunderstood, didn't want to come off as sounding like a snob!

 

[Tropical Wilds]

It sounds like you chose the wrong UO restaurants unfortunately. We live close to WDW & UO & visit both often. The food at Universal is consistently better than at WDW at the same price point. I'm not saying you'll get a better meal for a lot less. In our experience, you get a better quality for the price. That said, we rarely eat CS at either set of parks, so my experience is based mostly on TS. We ate a CS breakfast at UO many years ago. That meal wasn't good. That's the only time we've eaten CS there. We typically eat 2 TS meals a day, which is what we do at WDW also.

The only food I ever had at US that was good was stuff that was franchise... And, honestly, I don't care about eating full price, perhaps even more expensive, franchise food. I avoid US now, but even family who just came back said that the Harry Potter section had great food, but everything else was expensive, not a good value, and of average-to-poor quality.

And honestly, even if we're saying that US is of better quality, I still have to pay OOP for it. Why do that for food that's just not great, when I can pick travel dates that have free dining and eat at places that I think are fantastic for the same cost, or less? Especially since going to US, for me, includes a rented car or shuttle service and another park ticket.

See, I've gone through the same mental evaluation process of US and their food, and I've decided that they're not worth it. You may think they're great, but I certainly don't. I don't think their food can hold a candle to Disney's food offerings and, as such, I just don't go. That is what people who don't like Disney's food should do if they don't like it. Make other plans.

 

[tarheelmjfan]

The only food I ever had at US that was good was stuff that was franchise... And, honestly, I don't care about eating full price, perhaps even more expensive, franchise food. I avoid US now, but even family who just came back said that the Harry Potter section had great food, but everything else was expensive, not a good value, and of average-to-poor quality.

And honestly, even if we're saying that US is of better quality, I still have to pay OOP for it. Why do that for food that's just not great, when I can pick travel dates that have free dining and eat at places that I think are fantastic for the same cost, or less? Especially since going to US, for me, includes a rented car or shuttle service and another park ticket.

See, I've gone through the same mental evaluation process of US and their food, and I've decided that they're not worth it. You may think they're great, but I certainly don't. I don't think their food can hold a candle to Disney's food offerings and, as such, I just don't go. That is what people who don't like Disney's food should do if they don't like it. Make other plans.

We all have our own priorities. My DH & I are willing to pay for better quality food. I can respect the fact that others wouldn't feel the same. Everyone should do what works best for them. For those who don't mind paying, UO has some outstanding restaurants. IMO, the chain restaurants at CityWalk aren't among the best.

ETA: Emeril's would be the exception, if one considers it a chain. It's an excellent restaurant, but it's not cheap.

 

[GeorgiaHoo]

I was not doubting what you said about Golden Corral. Tripadvisor is just people like you and me with their opinions - means nothing to me. And with the car issue, you said you had a car so you do have options if you want. I did not say that about anyone that did not already have a car, to eat off site rather than complaining about Disney's food ( go back and read what I wrote). And I stick by what I said, If you have a car and feel you can get a meal you would enjoy more for the money (for the money being the key, I'm not disputing that) then quit complaining about every restaurant on site and go for it - then it definitely is a viable option, or if you have the facilities, do your own cooking.

So, I looked back through my posts and (1) I said nothing in any of my posts about having a car, that was the original poster (2) I didn't complain "about every restaurant on site," and only complained about the quality at one specific restaurant (Crystal Palace). I did say that Disney restaurants are overpriced, and they are (though 'Ohana seems like it might be a good deal). I have no doubt I can get a meal somewhere in Orlando that would be better than what I can get at Crystal Palace for substantially less, but also have no desire to trek all over central Florida looking for food. The reason we stay on-site is to experience Disney, and as someone mentioned earlier I'd rather have a less-than-stellar meal at Disney and still be at Disney. Hopefully some of the restaurants we try this coming trip, like Yachtsman or 'Ohana, will be very good, and if they aren't it doesn't mean those restaurants are uniformly bad, just that we might have hit them on a bad night.

 

[cinderellamom123]

You and I both must be out of our minds, completely off our rockers, cause i always look forward to disney meals!

I am the original poster. I guess the real reason for the post is that I just want to be excited again. I was always the one on that 180 day mark was on the phone at 7 am doing all my rezzies and was giddy about it. Now, I could go either way. I want that exciting feeling back. Thanks to all for some new insight. As I mentioned, I although I will have a car, I would never leave the park to travel to another restaurant outside disney. I am just looking for a few places I have not yet tried.

 

[eliza61]

I am the original poster. I guess the real reason for the post is that I just want to be excited again. I was always the one on that 180 day mark was on the phone at 7 am doing all my rezzies and was giddy about it. Now, I could go either way. I want that exciting feeling back. Thanks to all for some new insight. As I mentioned, I although I will have a car, I would never leave the park to travel to another restaurant outside disney. I am just looking for a few places I have not yet tried.

So as a person who has been going to the world for way over 10 years, I say this with all seriousness.

DISNEYS FOOD WILL NEVER AGAIN BE GREAT. Disney has absolutely no financial reason to improve their food quality.
None whatsoever. with the dining plan and free dining, they can keep guest on site. most guest going to disney as long as they feel they are getting a bargain (hence the ddp) don't really care if the food is mediocre.

Afer trying most restaurants at the world, I have accepted that disney's food will be chain food restaurant at best.

Now I have to add a disclaimer: I grew up in my familys restaurant in NYC. I don't buy into the excuse that disney has to feed millions of people. Sorry you can feed the masses with quality food. NYC does it every day, Las Vegas does it every day.

I make what I call just in case ADR's. I make them just in case we don't feel like leaving a park, not because I really think I'm going to get a good meal.

Meals are extremely important to me and my family. In our opinion there is nothing worse than sitting down at the end of the day and having a ho hum meal especially on vacation. My teenage/young adult kids now realize that the meals we get at disney are the same ones we get at Outback, or olive garden.
Tony's town square is absolutely a disgrace and should be closed. that's how horrible the food is there and the sad thing about it, every 2nd year sous chef should know how to make a decent marinara sauce.

Sorry, let go of the expectation of getting a great meal. You may luck up and hit a really good meal but I haven't left a restaurant at disney saying "WoW!! that was a great meal" in about 7 years.

Please, simply LOWER YOUR EXPECTATIONS.

 

[DrGaellon]

The restaurants in the parks are entirely mediocre. The real dining experiences at WDW are in the resorts. Try Narcoosee's and California Grill at MK, Flying Fish at Epcot, and Boma at AK. Our next trip will be entirely hotel-side dining.

 

[goofyintoronto]

So as a person who has been going to the world for way over 10 years, I say this with all seriousness.

DISNEYS FOOD WILL NEVER AGAIN BE GREAT. Disney has absolutely no financial reason to improve their food quality.
None whatsoever. with the dining plan and free dining, they can keep guest on site. most guest going to disney as long as they feel they are getting a bargain (hence the ddp) don't really care if the food is mediocre.

Afer trying most restaurants at the world, I have accepted that disney's food will be chain food restaurant at best.

Now I have to add a disclaimer: I grew up in my familys restaurant in NYC. I don't buy into the excuse that disney has to feed millions of people. Sorry you can feed the masses with quality food. NYC does it every day, Las Vegas does it every day.

I make what I call just in case ADR's. I make them just in case we don't feel like leaving a park, not because I really think I'm going to get a good meal.

Meals are extremely important to me and my family. In our opinion there is nothing worse than sitting down at the end of the day and having a ho hum meal especially on vacation. My teenage/young adult kids now realize that the meals we get at disney are the same ones we get at Outback, or olive garden.
Tony's town square is absolutely a disgrace and should be closed. that's how horrible the food is there and the sad thing about it, every 2nd year sous chef should know how to make a decent marinara sauce.

Sorry, let go of the expectation of getting a great meal. You may luck up and hit a really good meal but I haven't left a restaurant at disney saying "WoW!! that was a great meal" in about 7 years.

Please, simply LOWER YOUR EXPECTATIONS.

I literally laughed out loud when i read that part about Tony's. I agree with you 500%. It is a disgrace and I wonder how theyre still open. Absolutely disgusting food. Never ever again.

I agree with you about expectations thou. I get what your saying.

 

[DVC~OKW~96]

I am the original poster. I guess the real reason for the post is that I just want to be excited again. I was always the one on that 180 day mark was on the phone at 7 am doing all my rezzies and was giddy about it. Now, I could go either way. I want that exciting feeling back. Thanks to all for some new insight. As I mentioned, I although I will have a car, I would never leave the park to travel to another restaurant outside disney. I am just looking for a few places I have not yet tried.

Hi OP. Take your car and drive a short way off WDW property to the Dr.Phillips area (Turkey Lake to Sand Lake intersection and hang a left). There are many restaurants there to choose from. High end Morton's right down to "gourmet Bistro McDonald's" if you can believe it! :lol:

If you want to venture about 20 minutes out of WDW there is a really cool little local place in Gotha (have a GPS or good map) Yellow Dog Eats Cafe. You will LOVE it.

If you care to venture to Church St. in Orlando there is a wonderful Tapas place; Ceviche. It's a local restaurant with several branches (making it a mini-Florida chain, I guess). Columbia in Celebration is the same. Born in Florida with several branches throughout the state, but I'm not a fan. (Many are though). If you want authentic Asian, head to 50/Colonial Dr (I-4 east to Amelia, follow Amelia to a right on 50) where there are any number of Vietnamese and Thai restaurant. Panchos for the BEST Cuban is over on Semoran... hope these ideas help a bit.

Disney is no longer a good place to have a quality meal. The DDP has destroyed that experience and including resort restaurants too. We've been dining with Disney for over 16 years and have finally given up. It always amazes me too how people think the DDP is "free" or not paid for in any way. Use the fast food places to stave off starvation while in the parks, but save your dining 'experience' for off site.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

So as a person who has been going to the world for way over 10 years, I say this with all seriousness.

DISNEYS FOOD WILL NEVER AGAIN BE GREAT. Disney has absolutely no financial reason to improve their food quality.
None whatsoever. with the dining plan and free dining, they can keep guest on site. most guest going to disney as long as they feel they are getting a bargain (hence the ddp) don't really care if the food is mediocre.

Afer trying most restaurants at the world, I have accepted that disney's food will be chain food restaurant at best.

Now I have to add a disclaimer: I grew up in my familys restaurant in NYC. I don't buy into the excuse that disney has to feed millions of people. Sorry you can feed the masses with quality food. NYC does it every day, Las Vegas does it every day.

I make what I call just in case ADR's. I make them just in case we don't feel like leaving a park, not because I really think I'm going to get a good meal.

Meals are extremely important to me and my family. In our opinion there is nothing worse than sitting down at the end of the day and having a ho hum meal especially on vacation. My teenage/young adult kids now realize that the meals we get at disney are the same ones we get at Outback, or olive garden.
Tony's town square is absolutely a disgrace and should be closed. that's how horrible the food is there and the sad thing about it, every 2nd year sous chef should know how to make a decent marinara sauce.

Sorry, let go of the expectation of getting a great meal. You may luck up and hit a really good meal but I haven't left a restaurant at disney saying "WoW!! that was a great meal" in about 7 years.

Please, simply LOWER YOUR EXPECTATIONS.

Well, I must be eating at the wrong (or maybe right?) places, since I've never, ever once had a meal that I'd say are on the same level of Outback, and most certainly not Olive Garden. And honestly, I don't think anybody could look at some of the pictures on the food pictures thread and say "Yeah, that's the same quality of food that Olive Garden serves."

 

[North of Mouse]

I am the original poster. I guess the real reason for the post is that I just want to be excited again. I was always the one on that 180 day mark was on the phone at 7 am doing all my rezzies and was giddy about it. Now, I could go either way. I want that exciting feeling back. Thanks to all for some new insight. As I mentioned, I although I will have a car, I would never leave the park to travel to another restaurant outside disney. I am just looking for a few places I have not yet tried.

GeorgiaHoo, I apologize for what I said about you complaining about all the Disney restaurants when it was the OP, and some other posters on here, that I was thinking about (note to self- be more careful reading posts ) that had a car and could at least eat dinners off site rather than do so much complaining (that's what I'd do if I felt that way). It was the Golden Corral comment (even if was by tripadviser) about it being better that most Disney's buffets that got to me. Golden Corral is headquartered here in Raleigh, and their flagship restaurant is here and IS very good, but they haven't kept their restaurants up in most other places, and I've never seen any buffets at the ones we go to (mainly Crystal Palace, 'Ohana, Cape May, and Boma anywhere near that bad, so don't know why they publish such stuff considering themselves experts and advising others on such nonsense. Anyway, I have never gotten up early at the 180 day mark and made ressies for our trips - we are "wing-it" people and will not be tied down to any place any one day, and have only once not been able to get into a restaurant when we walked up. We are early dinner eaters (like to walk off some of that "goodness") so we can eat when and where we like without any stress. Certain places are our "must-do" ones and that's the ones we enjoy. We are light eaters and lots of times share meals to get a dessert later. We have been going to Disney since the year after they opened and the food choices were SO limited then that we are very happy with what they have now and look forward to the food and the experiences. Guess I just don't get it when people get the DDP and then complain on every meal that they can't wait to make ADR for. I would never pay out that kind of money for places I didn't like. And no, free dining is NOT free dining. You pay rack rate, plus tips on the very high priced menu items you get "to get my money's worth. )" Again, sorry GeorgiaHoo

 

[goofyintoronto]

So as a person who has been going to the world for way over 10 years, I say this with all seriousness.

DISNEYS FOOD WILL NEVER AGAIN BE GREAT. Disney has absolutely no financial reason to improve their food quality.
None whatsoever. with the dining plan and free dining, they can keep guest on site. most guest going to disney as long as they feel they are getting a bargain (hence the ddp) don't really care if the food is mediocre.

Afer trying most restaurants at the world, I have accepted that disney's food will be chain food restaurant at best.

Now I have to add a disclaimer: I grew up in my familys restaurant in NYC. I don't buy into the excuse that disney has to feed millions of people. Sorry you can feed the masses with quality food. NYC does it every day, Las Vegas does it every day.

I make what I call just in case ADR's. I make them just in case we don't feel like leaving a park, not because I really think I'm going to get a good meal.

Meals are extremely important to me and my family. In our opinion there is nothing worse than sitting down at the end of the day and having a ho hum meal especially on vacation. My teenage/young adult kids now realize that the meals we get at disney are the same ones we get at Outback, or olive garden.
Tony's town square is absolutely a disgrace and should be closed. that's how horrible the food is there and the sad thing about it, every 2nd year sous chef should know how to make a decent marinara sauce.

Sorry, let go of the expectation of getting a great meal. You may luck up and hit a really good meal but I haven't left a restaurant at disney saying "WoW!! that was a great meal" in about 7 years.

Please, simply LOWER YOUR EXPECTATIONS.

Well, I must be eating at the wrong (or maybe right?) places, since I've never, ever once had a meal that I'd say are on the same level of Outback, and most certainly not Olive Garden. And honestly, I don't think anybody could look at some of the pictures on the food pictures thread and say "Yeah, that's the same quality of food that Olive Garden serves."

I get what she means about expectations....but I do agree with you thou. I would never say that the amazing meal I had at WGPE & Cali Grill were on par with outback or olive garden. No way. Cause theyre far better! As ive said before, ive always enjoy most of the meals at disney. I've actually left many restaurants in Disney saying "WoW!! that was a great meal".

 

[GeorgiaHoo]

GeorgiaHoo, I apologize for what I said about you complaining about all the Disney restaurants when it was the OP, and some other posters on here, that I was thinking about (note to self- be more careful reading posts ) that had a car and could at least eat dinners off site rather than do so much complaining (that's what I'd do if I felt that way). It was the Golden Corral comment (even if was by tripadviser) about it being better that most Disney's buffets that got to me. Golden Corral is headquartered here in Raleigh, and their flagship restaurant is here and IS very good, but they haven't kept their restaurants up in most other places, and I've never seen any buffets at the ones we go to (mainly Crystal Palace, 'Ohana, Cape May, and Boma anywhere near that bad, so don't know why they publish such stuff considering themselves experts and advising others on such nonsense. Anyway, I have never gotten up early at the 180 day mark and made ressies for our trips - we are "wing-it" people and will not be tied down to any place any one day, and have only once not been able to get into a restaurant when we walked up. We are early dinner eaters (like to walk off some of that "goodness") so we can eat when and where we like without any stress. Certain places are our "must-do" ones and that's the ones we enjoy. We are light eaters and lots of times share meals to get a dessert later. We have been going to Disney since the year after they opened and the food choices were SO limited then that we are very happy with what they have now and look forward to the food and the experiences. Guess I just don't get it when people get the DDP and then complain on every meal that they can't wait to make ADR for. I would never pay out that kind of money for places I didn't like. And no, free dining is NOT free dining. You pay rack rate, plus tips on the very high priced menu items you get "to get my money's worth. )" Again, sorry GeorgiaHoo

Thanks and no worries. I'm definitely not claiming Golden Corral is better than Disney restuarants - Golden Corral is truly awful - and hopefully the buffets we have this coming trip will be better than that (Cape May, Boma, 'Ohana (buffet-ish)). Mainly just wanted to make the point that not everyone is enamored of Disney dining.

This will be our first trip using the DDP, and while I think its pricey, for the restaurants we planning on visiting it is a good deal. And as I mentioned, we will be trying some new places like 'Ohana and Yachtsman which we hear good things about and are looking forward to trying.

 

[eliza61]

Well, I must be eating at the wrong (or maybe right?) places, since I've never, ever once had a meal that I'd say are on the same level of Outback, and most certainly not Olive Garden. And honestly, I don't think anybody could look at some of the pictures on the food pictures thread and say "Yeah, that's the same quality of food that Olive Garden serves."

Where do you eat? Lets talk MK

Tonys Town square= worst than olive garden. Can you really tell me you think this is great italian? Really?
Crystal palace. I don't know what you compare it too but sorry I can't go any better than outback for that place.
I've never done Liberty tree tavern so I can't comment.

So pretty much in one major park every ts restaurant is mediocre at best.
Its not bad but sorry yeah, its the same quality. personally Tony's is worse


Lets see Le Cellier? Maybe it's because I live in the NY/Philly area but no way, no how could you say this is any thing but a chain steak house. The soup is the only exceptional thing on the menu. problem with that is I don't go to a steak house to pay 40 bucks for an entree to have the soup be the best part of the meal.

Now I do love Shula's but that's not run by disney.

I'm not saying they are bad or inedible (although I did have a meal last year that I got a refund on my dinner because it was inedible) but I do think any one planning their meals and thinking they are going to get great meals is going to be disappointed.

I loved Boma's but I didn't go there last year and I've heard they too have consistency problems.

 

[raidermatt]

Because complaining about it isn't going to change a thing. You know what the quality is like. To expect more is to bang your head against a brick wall. Yes you are paying a lot. But you just aren't going to get the same high quality meal that you can expect at a fine dining establishment in your home town. NOT. GOING. TO. HAPPEN. Just accept it and move on. Either adjust your expectations to meet reality, or seek your fine dining at another venue.

Not true. Two things that business listen to (at least businesses that hang around) are purchase decisions and customer feedback. In Disney's case they get their feedback from guest surveys, complaints, and yes, some message boards.

Will this particular negative quality trend change? We don't know, but again, Disney DID IT BETTER IN THE PAST, so there is no reason they can't do better in the future.

That's not to say they need to provide "fine dining" at every turn, but the value has taken a hit in recent years and that's really what most are complaining about.

 

[goofyintoronto]

Where do you eat? Lets talk MK

Tonys Town square= worst than olive garden. Can you really tell me you think this is great italian? Really? <<< I agree! its the worst "italian" food ive ever had in my life. No way im going back.

Crystal palace. I don't know what you compare it too but sorry I can't go any better than outback for that place.
I've never done Liberty tree tavern so I can't comment.
<<< CP & LTT I find both good, always had good meals at both, although your right, its not exceptional.

So pretty much in one major park every ts restaurant is mediocre at best.
Its not bad but sorry yeah, its the same quality. personally Tony's is worse


Lets see Le Cellier? Maybe it's because I live in the NY/Philly area but no way, no how could you say this is any thing but a chain steak house. The soup is the only exceptional thing on the menu. problem with that is I don't go to a steak house to pay 40 bucks for an entree to have the soup be the best part of the meal. <<<< Le Celllier is GARBAGE! I personally found the soup & bread to be medicore at best. The steak is a joke. I wouldnt waste my money on this place again. DP or not.

Now I do love Shula's but that's not run by disney.

I'm not saying they are bad or inedible (although I did have a meal last year that I got a refund on my dinner because it was inedible) but I'm standing by my

In addition to my comments above, I will say that meals which made me say "wow that was great!" were: Cali Grill, WGPE, Teppan Edo believe it or not, Tusker House breakfast, ....there is more, but thats just off the top of my head.

Which place did you get a refund? was that Tony's? LOL! I got a refund at Tony's & Chef Mickeys. BAD FOOD!

 

[Tropical Wilds]

Where do you eat? Lets talk MK

Tonys Town square= worst than olive garden. Can you really tell me you think this is great italian? Really?
Crystal palace. I don't know what you compare it too but sorry I can't go any better than outback for that place.
I've never done Liberty tree tavern so I can't comment.

So pretty much in one major park every ts restaurant is mediocre at best.
Its not bad but sorry yeah, its the same quality. personally Tony's is worse


Lets see Le Cellier? Maybe it's because I live in the NY/Philly area but no way, no how could you say this is any thing but a chain steak house. The soup is the only exceptional thing on the menu. problem with that is I don't go to a steak house to pay 40 bucks for an entree to have the soup be the best part of the meal.

Now I do love Shula's but that's not run by disney.

I'm not saying they are bad or inedible (although I did have a meal last year that I got a refund on my dinner because it was inedible) but I do think any one planning their meals and thinking they are going to get great meals is going to be disappointed.

Tony's, not my favorite. Is it awful? No, but it's not my favorite. Crystal Palace, I also had a nice dining experience there, but it's still not my favorite. I don't think anybody would be disappointed eating there since I think both deliver food consistent with what you'd expect. I don't eat often at MK, but that mostly has to do with our touring plans. We just aren't at MK for meals.

Le Cellier a chain steakhouse? Absolutely not. And as somebody who's seen a chain steakhouse or two, I can say with absolute confidence that it is nothing like a chain steakhouse. Frankly, if you think Le Cellier tastes like Outback, you must live near a above-and-beyond Outback. The only thing that I think is ridiculous on the menu is the chocolate mousse. I get the joke they're trying to make with it, but I don't think it fits with the rest of the menu. But I don't think anybody can say with a straight face that Outback and Le Cellier are on the same level.

And trust me, I went to Le Cellier the first time expecting good, but not getting the hype. I left fat, dumb, and happy. I thought the food, the whole experience, was not only amazing, but above and beyond what I'd expect for normal dining, let alone a theme park.

 

[goofyintoronto]

Tony's, not my favorite. Is it awful? No, but it's not my favorite. Crystal Palace, I also had a nice dining experience there, but it's still not my favorite. I don't think anybody would be disappointed eating there since I think both deliver food consistent with what you'd expect. I don't eat often at MK, but that mostly has to do with our touring plans. We just aren't at MK for meals.

Le Cellier a chain steakhouse? Absolutely not. And as somebody who's seen a chain steakhouse or two, I can say with absolute confidence that it is nothing like a chain steakhouse. Frankly, if you think Le Cellier tastes like Outback, you must live near a above-and-beyond Outback. The only thing that I think is ridiculous on the menu is the chocolate mousse. I get the joke they're trying to make with it, but I don't think it fits with the rest of the menu. But I don't think anybody can say with a straight face that Outback and Le Cellier are on the same level.

And trust me, I went to Le Cellier the first time expecting good, but not getting the hype. I left fat, dumb, and happy. I thought the food, the whole experience, was not only amazing, but above and beyond what I'd expect for normal dining, let alone a theme park.

Im telling you this with a straight face, Le Cellier and Outback ARE on the same level. And thats being generous!

And yes, Tony's is awful.

Just my opinion.