Sony Nex-5 - good first DSLR?

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I'm finally considering jumping into the world of DSLR cameras and I'm looking at the Sony Nex-5. I'm an amateur photog enthusiast but it's been years since I've had the time to really pursue this hobby. Most of my experience with more advanced photography techniques are with old Canon and Nikon 35mm cameras. My only experience with digital cameras has been with small P&S cameras (Canon, Sony, Olympus). I'm thinking the Nex-5 would be a good first DSLR for me, but I want to get some thoughts from the experts on this board.

Factors that make me lean towards the Nex-5 are:

-small(er) size (easy to carry for travel)
-lower price (I don't really want to spend $1000+ on a camera at this point)

My concerns are:

-will I end up spending $1000+ once I get the accessories (or will I be disappointed & end up buying a more expensive DLSR)
-some reviews indicate the lenses seem "flimsy"
-speed - will I need to carry a monopod/tripod to capture low-light shots? I'm not expecting miracles, but I'd like to do things like get night pics of Epcot WS
-menu confusion - some reviews I've found say the menu is difficult and not intuiative

The reviews I've read of the Nex-5 and seem to be positive overall. Does anyone have strong opinions about whether the Nex-5 would be good as a first DSLR for me considering I'm not a total photography novice but I am a novice to more advanced digital cameras?

Thanks for your help.
 
I would not say that price is an advantage on a mirrorless EVIL camera like those. Be aware that they are not DSLRs. They are compared similarly because they use the same large sensors, but there are differences, such as focus system. I actually would say that the price is a disadvantage because there are many less lenses available and they are typically more expensive than their comparable lenses for a DSLR (even in the same brand). I would only recommend one if the size is REALLY important to you. Otherwise, there are plenty of options to get a DSLR for your budget. Check out all the brands because you typically get more for your money from brands like Pentax, Sony, and Olympus compared to Canon and Nikon. I am not sure about the size of the Sony offerings, but my Pentax K-x is pretty small and light, but still has a nice feel to it. The EVIL cameras I have held seem to sacrifice comfort to keep everything as small as possible.
 
If you think you might like this Sony camera, consider if you might upgrade later on. Does Sony make a dslr that you will like that is more advanced?
If you go with Nikon or Canon(hopefully Nikon...lol), and invest in some good glass, you don't have to worry about upgrading to a different brand and losing your investment in glass.
 
I have both a DSLR and a NEX, so I might be able to help clarify a few things that can help you make a decision.

First, they aren't DSLRs...that's the first thing! The NEX cameras are compact mirrorless cameras with their own dedicated interchangeable lens lines (still small but growing), sharing the same APS-C sized sensors as DSLRs. The form factor can be an advantage, for the reasons you mention about portability, lightness, and convenience...they are, even with kit lenses, a good bit smaller than even the smallest DSLRs. However, they do have to make obvious sacrifices to achieve that size and portability - namely overall focus speed, ergonomics, and maximum fast control.

To address some of your specific issues/questions:
-will I end up spending $1000+ once I get the accessories (or will I be disappointed & end up buying a more expensive DLSR)

Depends on what you need from a camera. Will you be disappointed with image quality? Not likely - the NEX sensor is as good as the better DSLRs out there, as capable at high ISOs, and can shoot as well in daylight as low light. Will you spend $1000 or more in accessories? That's up to you - some do - probably some spend thousands with the NEX systems. The system is built for vast expansion and growth - but can just as well work as a body with kit lens and not need more. What types of shooting you want to do, how much experimentation you try, whether you need specialized lenses for certain types of shooting, if you get addicted to collecting lenses just because they're shiny and neat...only you can tell! Will you be disappointed with the ergonomics or controls? Probably not if you just do casual shooting, daylight shooting, travel and scenic shooting, and the occasional of something else. However, want to get into long lens work, wildlife shooting, frequent low light work, sports or action photography...then you might find yourself hobbled or unable to do it with the NEX.

-some reviews indicate the lenses seem "flimsy"

That's probably the one thing that's easiest to knock down - the lenses are built like high-end jewelry - all metal, shiny aluminum, beautiful finish, damped action...nothing about the NEX5 or its lenses are anything less than the finest camera builds since the Leicas of the 1950s. They're gorgeously built.

-speed - will I need to carry a monopod/tripod to capture low-light shots? I'm not expecting miracles, but I'd like to do things like get night pics of Epcot WS

No...actually, that's one of the fortes of these cameras. They excel at high ISO work, even with the average kit lenses that aren't that fast...and have some seriously nice tricks up their sleeves like automatic, self-aligning 6-image stacking allowing use of ISOs to 12800 with virtually no noise and excellent detail retention. These cameras are low light beasts. Invest in a conversion adapter and pair them with a good, fast prime lens, and they become one of the best cameras for low light handheld work INCLUDING most DSLRs.
-menu confusion - some reviews I've found say the menu is difficult and not intuiative

This was a problem when they came out. No question, the menus and controls were simplistic and unintuitive, clearly designed for folks intending to stick the camera in Auto mode and never look at a button again. I personally wouldn't have touched one of these cameras with a 10-foot pole when they came out, being a control freak. However, a few months back, Sony released their 2nd firmware for the camera, and this one specifically addressed the controls - the change was so entire that the camera went from one of the worst to shockingly good and intuitive, and one of the better choices for knowledgeable photographers who want to control their camera. There are 7 direct buttons on the camera body (5 of them incorporated into the multicontroller wheel). It looks like there'd be no way to directly access important controls. However, the firmware change activated 6 of those 7 buttons for direct, one-touch access to important parameters, with 2 of those buttons being user programmable to hold the function of your choice. The end result is that you can set up the camera to have direct control over ISO, WB, Focus mode, drive mode, EV, metering mode, flash control, focus area, metering area, or DRO/HDR - up to 6 at once. It's amazingly simple to manually control the camera.

How and what you shoot is going to be the big factor. If most of your shooting is scenic, landscape, travel, snapshots, portrait, or general photography, the NEX should be a solid camera with excellent performance in a compact package. If your shooting is going to be fast paced, heavy bursting, action, movement, tracking, wildlife, big zoom work, etc...then the NEX simply can't keep up and is the wrong tool for the job.

One side perk to mention for the NEX system that is a reason I picked one up as a second camera - the registration distance between lens and sensor is almost nil - without the mirror assembly, it's closer than any other mount. Which means with a simple cold adapter that spaces a lens the proper registration distance from the sensor, you can use literally any lens from any mount ever made on the NEX. There are dozens of adapters for every lens you can practically think of: Canon manual, EOS, rangefinder, Nikon EF, manual, rangefinder, Olympus OM, Pentax K and screw, Leica M, R, and screw, M42, Olympus Pen, and the list goes on. All of these lenses work 'old school' on the NEX - manual focus and aperture using the lens rings. Many of these lenses can be found dirt-cheap, and the adapters run $25 or less for most mounts...so picking up a fast prime is a cinch and doesn't have to break the bank.

I personally am a DSLR fan, and much of my shooting cannot be done without one. I could not shoot what I do using only the NEX system, nor the Micro 4:3 system. But as a second body, they are marvelous, and capability wise for regular shooting and especially low light, they're amazing. It depends on what most of your shooting involves, to determine whether a compact mirrorless camera can work as your primary big-sensor digital, or if a full DSLR body is needed to shoot the type of stuff you do now, or intend to do in the future.

PS - just to add re the previous poster's point - yes, Sony does make several levels of DSLRs which are faster, more advanced, and more capable, so there is somewhere to move up to. It is a different lens mount though, which can be shared with the NEX through an adapter as with any other lens. For me, Sony makes some killer DSLRs that were clearly the choice for my needs and shooting, and have supported my hobby, my habit, and paid for themselves through my semi-pro use of them, and have excellent lenses both in the Sony line and the Minolta line. It's a valid point to pick based on future needs too, but that still doesn't always mean you're going to pick a Canon or a Nikon.
 

I have had the NEX system along with my DSLR and the last time we went to Disney I photographed exclusively with the NEX. The camera was very portable for the parks, had great high ISO for the night shots and I brought along a Gorillapod for those images that I wanted to do a long exposure for.

The menu system and buttons for me took a short while to get used to as I am a manual shooter but I was able to get used to the whole setup very quickly.

As far as the lens build quality is concerned, the build is good. The only issue I had was that I could see some glue spots around the mount at the back of the lens which drove me a little nuts due to the money I had spent but it never hindered the camera in any way.

Overall it is a great little system for those who want something small to compliment their DSLR or for someone looking to step up from a point and shoot.
 
Like Justin, I too, own both.

I'm only adding this to re-emphasize what he has already so eloquently outlined. I agree with his sentiments almost exactly. There's no need for me to try to restate what he has already written.

My NEX5 is my PnS. That's the one thing that may be a little different for me. I have several other PnS's (My wife would claim I have WAY too many cameras but who's counting except her!), but my plan is for the NEX to be the one in my pocket at WDW in April. I'll still have my 60D or T2i slung on my shoulder, though, most of the time. The NEX is a great camera, but so far, it's secondary to me. My DSLRs are still my go-to cameras.

Good luck with your decision. I only offer you that native lenses for the NEX are few and far between from Sony right now, but the three that are out there are top-drawer... and they charge that for them too. They are far from "junk." Not sure where you read that because your post is the first time I've ever even seen that "accusasion".

Good luck. The NEX is a great camera line.

PS-The NEX3's replacement is virtually right around the corner. You might want to google that and read a little about it before making a final decision.
 
Wow, thanks everyone for all your great advice & information! I will definitely take all of this into account as I make my decision.
 
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