Someone get a restraining order...

[m&m's mom]

You're not going to like this but it will just torture you to be on the Dis.
Reading about others vacations and others planning when you can't just is not fun- at least not to me. I get the ole "Since they can go, why can't I?". Mine is not financial but I have all 5 weeks of my vacation allocated already, but the feeling is the same.

 

[SandrA9810]

Take day trips to different state parks. We love going to Georgia to see the family, and every day we just go to a different state park. It helps that they live in the Mountains and close to a lot of them, some are just an hours drive out.

Do you live within a couple hrs of the beach? That could be a fun outing.

Kari works so much (which she always has), so I try to make her days off well worth it. And this year, during her vacation time, her parent's are coming to us, rather than us going to them. So she can still work short shifts + vacation hours.

Do you have retired relatives?? Ask if any one would like to visit. Doing something with some one new can make the boring stuff more interesting.

Do you have direct deposit with the paychecks?? can you put an automatic 10$ or so into a separate account for that monthly outing? Or get a wooden box, screw it shut, and put a hole in the top. Every couple of weeks, pull out a 20$ and drop it into the box. If you can't get to it, the easier it is to save.

Sorry, I can't think of more things at the moment.

 

[luvsJack]

Excuse me if this is just too rude, but what do you budget for your monthly outings? Or at least how? Do you have an annual budget for your monthly outings and then draw off that each month, a bit more here and less there. Or do you have a range and so long as you are within the range, you feel good?

Yes, Disney fix. Yes a break from routine. Yes getting out of town and away from the norm.

I like the fair idea. Used to love going to the county fairs when I lived in CA. We've never done the Rodeo here. I think that's in the spring though. Love the Renaissance Festival, too. And that's going on right now. I admit that we have a tendency to overspend on outings like that though. Here a turkey leg. There a funnel cake. The games. The rides. The costumes. The weapons. IK. But true. DS got a long bow last year. LOL.

If you do a movie night, what do you do to make it "special?" We tend to watch a lot of movies because we use a digital converter and generally, movies are preferable to anything on broadcast.

Again, I'm drained and dry. Not feeling creative. Looking to add some cheap spice to life to help us get through what is looking to be something of a vacation dryspell. Any more suggestions?

Most things I know ahead how much it will cost and budget for it that month. (the fair is actually going to end up being one of the most expensive as it has gone up quite a bit since last year). We are lucky in that we live in the center of some very different places. We are within 2-3 hours of NOLA, the beach in Pensacola, our own state capital, the casinos on our coast (which do a lot special shows). And if the month looks short I can pull back on what we spend for most things or we skip it until the next month.

The disney movie nights we plan ahead what movie and what "junky" food we want to eat that night. So we have nachos or popcorn or whatever and the movie. Lots of times we play games while we watch. We have several Disney themed games, like Disney Trivia or Scene It: POC. And there are the movie nights that are Harry Potter or Lord of the Rings too. Its just a family night.

 

[lovemygoofy]

I totally agree with your methodology. It's what we did for this past trip. Figure out what you can pay each month to pay the vacation off, keep plugging away at the cc debt, follow the plan.

Things happen. Like the furnace goes out, and I'm thinking that while we made it through last winter without it, this winter is supposed to be colder. It's time to fork out the dough and get a new furnace. Bye bye vacation.

I guess what I am wondering is how does everyone keep to their plan? I know that there are personality types out there that just make a plan and stick to it. They have no problems. They just avoid any and all temptations. They control their thoughts. They don't even dwell on what they can't have. Fine.

I'm not like that.

And I'm wondering, for other people who have managed to control themselves, what tactics/tips/tricks do they employee while they are on the plan, so to speak, to keep themselves to the plan? Especially if they aren't the kind of people that have an easy time of it.

So. If a year goes by and you can't take a big vacation, what have you done to help that year go by and still give yourself a break? And in the meantime, if there is something that comes up, how do you cope?

I read all the time on this board about people dealing with their money. They seem to have it all under control. I'm just trying to pick brains here. Practical advice. A little help. I struggle with this. I understand. There's a point in time when you just have to deal. Be adult. Get over it. Ok. But does ANYONE have a little sugar that will help the medicine go down?

One thing that helps us because we don't have a big vacation to look forward but always have alot of stress in our life is to make the "now" fun instead of looking forward to the future when there will be fun.

We do things like the state fair or a local street fair too. We take $50 or whatever and that is it. We use it to get in and do whatever we want to and when the money is out we are done. We get to say we splurged on a day out and had fun but still didn't break the wallet.

I don't know where you live in the world but I know that someplaces it's just flat out difficult to find fun. I have lived in the rural places where it's hard to not drive 30 miles for a mall or something close to it. With it being fall time there are corn mazes and fall festivals with apple picking and pumpkin carving. Most places will allow you to take a picnic lunch and make it an all day event. Do you have a nice lake or swimming area near you? Take the floaty air mattress things and a picnic lunch and just go and relax. Lay back and listen to the world around you.

My husband and I have learned it's about making memories all year long and documenting them is just as important. We are big picture takers as well. It doesn't have to be expensive to have fun and get out of the stress. At some point you do have to be reality ahead of wanting though. I would think a furnace is a big big need.

Make time together a priority as it is precious. It doesn't have to be in a big fun super exciting place like disneyworld. You can have fun anywhere and makes the memories that much sweeter.

 

[luvsJack]

One thing that helps us because we don't have a big vacation to look forward but always have alot of stress in our life is to make the "now" fun instead of looking forward to the future when there will be fun.

We do things like the state fair or a local street fair too. We take $50 or whatever and that is it. We use it to get in and do whatever we want to and when the money is out we are done. We get to say we splurged on a day out and had fun but still didn't break the wallet.

I don't know where you live in the world but I know that someplaces it's just flat out difficult to find fun. I have lived in the rural places where it's hard to not drive 30 miles for a mall or something close to it. With it being fall time there are corn mazes and fall festivals with apple picking and pumpkin carving. Most places will allow you to take a picnic lunch and make it an all day event. Do you have a nice lake or swimming area near you? Take the floaty air mattress things and a picnic lunch and just go and relax. Lay back and listen to the world around you.

My husband and I have learned it's about making memories all year long and documenting them is just as important. We are big picture takers as well. It doesn't have to be expensive to have fun and get out of the stress. At some point you do have to be reality ahead of wanting though. I would think a furnace is a big big need.

Make time together a priority as it is precious. It doesn't have to be in a big fun super exciting place like disneyworld. You can have fun anywhere and makes the memories that much sweeter.

EXACTLY! Going down to the lake (our local state park), having a cookout and just laying back in a lounger and reading a book is heaven and FREE. That's the kind of things we do a lot.

 

[MsDisney23]

Plan for a Home Disney vacation, make it a long weekend or a time when kids are off from school. Yes I said a Home Disney Vacation. Get out your video's from past trips watch them, watch a Disney Movie, play a Disney board game, even save up for a trip to the Disney Store or Disney online, and pick up a small gift. You get the idea, pay off the trip you already took first, and then think about another one. In the meantime have yourself a home disney vacation.

 

[FINFAN]

well, I try to steer my mind to other places/interests....sometimes the *thrill* of planning the vacation is actually part of the vacation...kind of like shopping, if you hold the item for a while, you can put it back realizing you didn't really want/need it. I look for other sites on travel like the DISboards...I try to get pictures from past trips in booksor do creative displays etc with them. I find if I distract myself long enough a week or so time will go by. Do you like to make holiday gifts? Maybe get started on that. On the financial side, for every CC payment you make, ( I am guessing your past trip is on the CC) put $5 or so into your future WDW change jar or savings account. It is a reward for doing the right thing of paying down your debt and gets you rolling on your next trip at the same time. Also keep in perpesctive that while on these boards and it appears that EVERYONE is going back to WDW...it is a small precentage of the population, and not everyone on these boards is actively planning a trip. Don't get caught in the "me too!" trap. Make sure it is becasue you gusy REALLY want to go back before paying debt down. If paying it off completely is overwhelming, give yourselves a different goal of monthly pay down, and starting an emergency fund. If you have a EF, you may feel more relaxed about taking a family vacation, which in my book, is an important part of living. It may not always be to WDW for us ( we are outside Chicago, travel costs 1/3 of the actual trip!) but taking family time is important.
Good luck, discipline with finances is not fun and WDW is...so I completely understand the dilemma.

 

[eliza61]

II am still so tempted though.

So how do you deal with it when you really want something, but you know you can't afford it. Doesn't have to be Disney. Could be anything. How do you help yourself resist the urge to just slap it all on a credit card and deal with the consequences?

You'd think I would be better able to deal with the spending urge by now, but obviously, I have issues. I'm serious too. I would love to hear how all you budget experts out there deal with it. Obviously, I need help. A new mindset. SOMETHING!!

Make it a goal. I have been wanting to go to Paris for the last 3 years. So I started squirrelling a little away. Don't get discourage that it may take some time just keep saying things like "I'm 20 bucks closer to XXX"

I'm leaving for France 5/18/10 and while it took 3 years, I can't wait.

 

[Marionnette]

I totally agree with your methodology. It's what we did for this past trip. Figure out what you can pay each month to pay the vacation off, keep plugging away at the cc debt, follow the plan.

Things happen. Like the furnace goes out, and I'm thinking that while we made it through last winter without it, this winter is supposed to be colder. It's time to fork out the dough and get a new furnace. Bye bye vacation.

I guess what I am wondering is how does everyone keep to their plan? I know that there are personality types out there that just make a plan and stick to it. They have no problems. They just avoid any and all temptations. They control their thoughts. They don't even dwell on what they can't have. Fine.

I'm not like that.

And I'm wondering, for other people who have managed to control themselves, what tactics/tips/tricks do they employee while they are on the plan, so to speak, to keep themselves to the plan? Especially if they aren't the kind of people that have an easy time of it.

So. If a year goes by and you can't take a big vacation, what have you done to help that year go by and still give yourself a break? And in the meantime, if there is something that comes up, how do you cope?

I read all the time on this board about people dealing with their money. They seem to have it all under control. I'm just trying to pick brains here. Practical advice. A little help. I struggle with this. I understand. There's a point in time when you just have to deal. Be adult. Get over it. Ok. But does ANYONE have a little sugar that will help the medicine go down?

Now see this is something I just couldnt do. How do you live without a furnace for almost a year but take a deluxe vacation instead. In your signature you just stayed at WL in June of this year with deluxe dining. But your furnace broke last winter. Now you owe money on that trip AND you still have to fix the heater. My sister in law has been without an oven for 8 years because it will cost as much to fix it as it will to buy a new one. And they "cant afford it". But they own DVC and go to Disney every year for two weeks. I dont get it but she has no problem living like that. Since your asking how everyone else manages I guess this means that maybe you dont want to live like my sister in law anymore. So everytime you think about spending money on another vacation you cant pay for think about how you will feel when your child is cold this winter because theres no heat. I know its not a pretty Disney picture. But maybe what you need to see is the negative side of your choices instead of sunshine and rainbows and Disney movie nights. Not to be mean but some people need a carrot on a stick to motivate them and some people need to be smacked with the stick. You might be one of those people who needs to be smacked with the stick.

 

[tmccullough]

Try to find a cheaper getaway that you can afford. That seems to work for us. We try to go every 3 years and in between, we try to find some type of vacation that isn't just one-day trips like camping. I have a new found love for camping and it's inexpensive. We enjoy the jellystone (Yogi Bear themed)campgrounds where the kids are always entertained because Disney has them spoiled so a relaxing vacation is boring to them. The campgrounds usually have daily activities on top of a water park of some sort with slides, mini-golf, lazer tag,etc. As much as I'm wishing to go to Disney next spring, I think about the amount of money that is spent in one short week and find that I can actually live with camping instead and it also makes the 3 year trip even more enjoyable because of the anticipation! HTH!!

 

[wdwfan16]

I totally agree with your methodology. It's what we did for this past trip. Figure out what you can pay each month to pay the vacation off, keep plugging away at the cc debt, follow the plan.

Things happen. Like the furnace goes out, and I'm thinking that while we made it through last winter without it, this winter is supposed to be colder. It's time to fork out the dough and get a new furnace. Bye bye vacation.

I guess what I am wondering is how does everyone keep to their plan? I know that there are personality types out there that just make a plan and stick to it. They have no problems. They just avoid any and all temptations. They control their thoughts. They don't even dwell on what they can't have. Fine.

I'm not like that.

And I'm wondering, for other people who have managed to control themselves, what tactics/tips/tricks do they employee while they are on the plan, so to speak, to keep themselves to the plan? Especially if they aren't the kind of people that have an easy time of it.
So. If a year goes by and you can't take a big vacation, what have you done to help that year go by and still give yourself a break? And in the meantime, if there is something that comes up, how do you cope?

I read all the time on this board about people dealing with their money. They seem to have it all under control. I'm just trying to pick brains here. Practical advice. A little help. I struggle with this. I understand. There's a point in time when you just have to deal. Be adult. Get over it. Ok. But does ANYONE have a little sugar that will help the medicine go down?

I stated them above.

 

[luvsJack]

Now see this is something I just couldnt do. How do you live without a furnace for almost a year but take a deluxe vacation instead. In your signature you just stayed at WL in June of this year with deluxe dining. But your furnace broke last winter. Now you owe money on that trip AND you still have to fix the heater. My sister in law has been without an oven for 8 years because it will cost as much to fix it as it will to buy a new one. And they "cant afford it". But they own DVC and go to Disney every year for two weeks. I dont get it but she has no problem living like that. Since your asking how everyone else manages I guess this means that maybe you dont want to live like my sister in law anymore. So everytime you think about spending money on another vacation you cant pay for think about how you will feel when your child is cold this winter because theres no heat. I know its not a pretty Disney picture. But maybe what you need to see is the negative side of your choices instead of sunshine and rainbows and Disney movie nights. Not to be mean but some people need a carrot on a stick to motivate them and some people need to be smacked with the stick. You might be one of those people who needs to be smacked with the stick.

I don't think you are necessarily being totally fair. She didn't say they went without a furnance and they got cold. My heater could go out and we could do without it for a year. It just doesn't get that cold here. Heck, if I can keep dh away from the thermostat, our heater would probably go completely unused! Or maybe she meant that they knew they were going to have to replace the furnance and but were trying to get one more year out of it. No where did she say her child was cold.


Not saying that I think a vacation to wdw is more important than fixing something of that nature, just saying that maybe it didn't seem to be such an emergency to her and her family at the time.

 

[wdwfan16]

I don't think you are necessarily being totally fair. She didn't say they went without a furnance and they got cold. My heater could go out and we could do without it for a year. It just doesn't get that cold here. Heck, if I can keep dh away from the thermostat, our heater would probably go completely unused! Or maybe she meant that they knew they were going to have to replace the furnance and but were trying to get one more year out of it. No where did she say her child was cold.


Not saying that I think a vacation to wdw is more important than fixing something of that nature, just saying that maybe it didn't seem to be such an emergency to her and her family at the time.

She might be able to go for a year while she gets the money together for the furnace but during that time she does take a deluxe trip, puts in on a CC and still does not have the money for the furnace. That is not how many of us got to a point we can prepay for our vacations.

I would never take a deluxe WDW vacation, that we all know cost thousands, when I needed a new heater. Was her plan to hope we had a warm winter?

That vacation could have paid for 50% or more of that furnace.

She asks how many of us do it, well THIS is NOT how we do it.

Funny thing is she completely ignored my first post. I told her I never look for what I cannot afford. I guess she does not want to hear that but wants to know that we think she should just go again, damn that furnace.

 

[TxRabbit]

She might be able to go for a year while she gets the money together for the furnace but during that time she does take a deluxe trip, puts in on a CC and still does not have the money for the furnace. That is not how many of us got to a point we can prepay for our vacations.

I would never take a deluxe WDW vacation, that we all know cost thousands, when I needed a new heater. Was her plan to hope we had a warm winter?

That vacation could have paid for 50% or more of that furnace.

She asks how many of us do it, well THIS is NOT how we do it.

Funny thing is she completely ignored my first post. I told her I never look for what I cannot afford. I guess she does not want to hear that but wants to know that we think she should just go again, damn that furnace.

It's errand day, but I'm at the library and I have to respond before this gets out of hand, people get nasty and my thread gets shut down...

First, the furnace...when the guy came out to inspect the a/c, he said that the pilot light was dancing on the furnace, which indicated a cracked heat exchanger, which would have a CO2 leak, which would be dangerous. We haven't had the furnace itself checked yet. We live in the Houston area, moved here from Kansas and Colorado, and so we don't really miss the furnace. We don't need it. As an air handler (running the a/c, it works fine). The deal is that we may or may not be selling our house in the near or not so near future based on my husband's work (remember the 120+ mile commute) and so what we would spend on a furnace, features we would look for, efficiency level, etc, would vary greatly based on whether or not I was buying the furnace for the future owner or for myself. Since I don't have enough info to make an informed decision on who will ultimately benefit from the furnace, I haven't bought one. The furnace is in a hallway in the middle of the upstairs. It's loud. If we were to be the ones benefitting, I would put more work into the whole project to help sound proof the furnace closet so that we could have a quieter climate control system in the house. We ran the fireplace. We dressed for the weather. We slept like the dead in a beautifully cool house with the weight of glorious blankets that we actually appreciated covering us and we had the best nasal conditions in the winter than we had in years all thanks to being forced to make alternative decisions in keeping more COMFORTABLE during what some call winter in Houston. I never said I didn't have the money for a furnace. I said that because of situations like the furnace, there aren't funds for another Disney vacation.

That said.

Also. I budgeted money for our last trip. There's the pay off plan from the booking date through the time of same as cash financing offered through the Disney card. And yay for Disney Reward dollars and the 4/3 deal. The pay off is in December. Then we'll be done.

Meanwhile. It isn't paid off and I am dreaming of a Disney vacation. Whoever talked about the planning being a big part of it was right on. It's a major part of the whole vacation for me.

But I know that we can't afford it. Old habits would just have me slapping the thing on a cc and dealing with the consequences later.

However. The plan is to at least not INCREASE debt as we do our best to pay it off while still maintaining a 21 year old house and getting it ready for market, whenever the market may be do-able considering our mortgage, real estate commissions, etc, and also trying to budget in aspects of life (soccer teams for DS, etc).

So I can't budget in Disney next year.

I'm not good with planning other events. But I figured that the Dis had plenty of people who were like me (not able to go to Disney) and also living on a budget, and I wondered what in the world they do to satisfy themselves so that they don't just slap a big ole Dis trip on their cc.

I never said I wanted to hear permission from anyone to go on another trip.

And I read what you said about not looking at what you can't afford. I agree. It's why my cars are paid for a 2001 truck and a 2006 car. Why my tv is over 8 years old, the VCR/DVD combo is even older. I don't have cable or satelite. I'm wearing clothes that I've worn for years. I don't window shop. I only go shopping when I have to buy something. Disney is a weakness, I admit, and so I'm just asking for some help in ideas for overcoming, because I am struggling on my own. Don't look. Good advice. Not to easy to do for me. Still would appreciate more ideas than that.

I'd like to respond to some posts individually, because I have appreciated the ideas in them, but as I said, I'm doing errands and it's time to move on from the library...

 

[Smile4Me]

Something that may work for you is an out of sight out of mind savings system, like having $25 a paycheck automatically removed from your check into a separate savings account for a Disney trip. You can save for your trip, while still regularly budgeting payments on your credit card.

We do a change jar, and its become almost competitive between me and my boyfriend to see who can put more in at the end of each week. We use that savings to put toward vacations. We had enough in 8 months of using the jar to pay for park hoppers and all our tips for our dining for our last trip!

Maybe consider doing some babysitting or dog walking...something that you enjoy but you can also earn some extra money doing, and putting that specifically toward a trip savings or whatever your goal is.

The Library is a great resource! Look into book groups, media clubs, or other activities that they may offer. Losing yourself in their vast array of travel books could be just as fun!

I've recently taken up scrapbooking our last trip, and that helps me relive a lot of the fun we had on the last trip...which is also our last trip for acouple years. (financially we have other goals and some other places (cheaper yes) that we would like to visit while we reach those goals).

 

[blanq]

I can't seem to stop dreaming about another Disney vacation and we haven't paid off the last one yet!!

AND we don't have the money to go on another one. And yet, I still find myself daydreaming, looking at dates, checking out the different resorts, comparing prices...and yet, I know that we really can't afford to go.

I am still so tempted though.

So how do you deal with it when you really want something, but you know you can't afford it. Doesn't have to be Disney. Could be anything. How do you help yourself resist the urge to just slap it all on a credit card and deal with the consequences?

You'd think I would be better able to deal with the spending urge by now, but obviously, I have issues. I'm serious too. I would love to hear how all you budget experts out there deal with it. Obviously, I need help. A new mindset. SOMETHING!!

I can relate to you so much. I do the same thing...daydream, price out vacations, etc. I can afford to take one, but not if I want to reach my financial goals for the next year. We are on a budget in our household with a goal to save a serious amount of money for a Hawaii trip next summer, a good down payment on a new vehicle for DH and some landscaping. We have 6 months of expenses in an emergency fund, and we have a good amount of extra income each month (currently going to save for our goals this next year) and it is so tempting to want to spend some of it and hop a plane to WDW. Our family had two vacations earlier this year (January and March), but work is making me weary and I am feeling stressed. I am tempted all the time, but I just have to tell myself "no". It is a hard thing to do but I know that in the long run, and once I am on sitting on a beach in Hawaii, I will be glad I stuck to my guns. Sometimes I just hate being a grown up.

 

[TxRabbit]

well, I try to steer my mind to other places/interests....sometimes the *thrill* of planning the vacation is actually part of the vacation....

Lunch time...

This is the heart of my dilemma. The planning. The anticipation. The research. The sharing. The reading. I love it. I think that this is what makes the WDW trip so special for me. There is SO MUCH info out there about it, you really can take a dozen or more different virtual trips before you even get there.

I cut it out of your quote, but I like the idea of the displays and going through your photos and things from your previous trips. This is a project that I have been wanting to work on. It's so solitary though. Because of the Dis, planning Disney is quite social feeling. And I am alone a lot. Where I used to live, there was a specialty scrapbooking store and they had a meeting room where you could just go there and work on projects. I haven't seen that here. Doesn't mean it doesn't exist. That's a good idea. And it would be social...

Thank you for your post, it was very helpful and has sparked more ideas...

There are other's I'm going to respond to, on my next break...

 

[TxRabbit]

You're not going to like this but it will just torture you to be on the Dis.
Reading about others vacations and others planning when you can't just is not fun- at least not to me. I get the ole "Since they can go, why can't I?". Mine is not financial but I have all 5 weeks of my vacation allocated already, but the feeling is the same.

I understand that being on the Dis isn't helping me NOT want to plan Disney. It's just such a habit. Virtual conversations with people. I do it thorough the day inbetween doing household chores and projects, etc. Like I said in the above post, it feels social when I am not in a position to be around people. And I like to be around people. I'm sure that is the whole appeal of message boards. I don't know what other type of message board I would really want to participate in. Anyone participate in other forums? From all the camping suggestions, is there a forum for campers?

 

[luvsJack]

Lunch time...

This is the heart of my dilemma. The planning. The anticipation. The research. The sharing. The reading. I love it. I think that this is what makes the WDW trip so special for me. There is SO MUCH info out there about it, you really can take a dozen or more different virtual trips before you even get there.

I cut it out of your quote, but I like the idea of the displays and going through your photos and things from your previous trips. This is a project that I have been wanting to work on. It's so solitary though. Because of the Dis, planning Disney is quite social feeling. And I am alone a lot. Where I used to live, there was a specialty scrapbooking store and they had a meeting room where you could just go there and work on projects. I haven't seen that here. Doesn't mean it doesn't exist. That's a good idea. And it would be social...

Thank you for your post, it was very helpful and has sparked more ideas...

There are other's I'm going to respond to, on my next break...

The planning is a HUGE part of it all for me too. Dd and I spend time just kind of planning out our "next trip". We don't have a date set (no money for it) but we know we want to go for 8 -10 days, we know we want to stay at Pop and we want the dining plan and we want to go to the Harry Potter attractions at Universal. So we sort of keep it as a "work in progress" just to work on a bit when we start thinking "we NEEEEDDD another trip to Disney!". The plan changes all the time and sometimes even has things on it we know are impossible, its just something fun we do together.


I also like reading books about Disney. I have asked for two WDW trivia books and a bio of Walt Disney for Christmas.

 

[TxRabbit]

The planning is a HUGE part of it all for me too. Dd and I spend time just kind of planning out our "next trip". We don't have a date set (no money for it) but we know we want to go for 8 -10 days, we know we want to stay at Pop and we want the dining plan and we want to go to the Harry Potter attractions at Universal. So we sort of keep it as a "work in progress" just to work on a bit when we start thinking "we NEEEEDDD another trip to Disney!". The plan changes all the time and sometimes even has things on it we know are impossible, its just something fun we do together.


I also like reading books about Disney. I have asked for two WDW trivia books and a bio of Walt Disney for Christmas.

I love how you can do that together with your DD. My men enjoy going to Disney but they aren't into planning. DH says that he is so tired of making plans and decisions at work, he's a project manager, he definitely doesn't want to have to plan and make decisions about vacation. He leaves it to me to plan. Of course he wants a say in where we go, and might have a request about what we do, but then he prefers that I run with the schedule and the planning.