someone agree with me please

[luvmyfam444]

Thanks Marseeya....I'm gonna check ours out right now... & according to yours states guideline there is NO mention of predicates(simple or complete) or subjects (simple or complete)...there key word there to me is SIMPLE...they also have her identifying the article adjective (in itself not hard since it's "A", "The" but when added to figuring out a regualr adjective gets confusind 'cause she say "A" or "THE" & will leave off the descriptive adjective...

HMMM...I'm gonna do some searching here for our standards. I know our old sate is online - so I'm hoping this one is too----I'll let you know what it says...

 

[MoniqueU]

I have a second grader and I think that is ridiculous. If they sent that home I would complain. I would also have to be on the internet looking up the definitions of more then a few of those things to help out. It's been so many years since I have had to use those.

 

[tmt martins]

Don't worry with Bush's NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND they just make it look tough and then push them right through.

 

[WIcruizer]

Don't worry with Bush's NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND they just make it look tough and then push them right through.

What does that mean? A random cheap shot that doesn't even make any sense. It's not the federal government's policy to decide who gets "pushed through." That's up to the states and local school districts. BUSH's No Child Left Behind was largely KENNEDY'S bill, and was widely accepted by both parties. Consider that a free lesson.

Now back to the actual debate. It does seem to me that is rather advanced work for 2nd grade. That's not necessarily bad in and of itself. What bothers me is they're being graded on it, and given letter grades. Sounds to me like the issue is with how your district, school, or even teacher is the source of the problem. I can't believe this is going on state-wide.

 

[Buckalew11]

I also think those are a lot of concepts to learn at once. I think it is also a lot to try to TEACH at once (& it doesn't sound like she's doing a great job IMHO)

I believe DD learned nouns and verbs and the prepositions and prepositional phrases next (which actually skipped a lot of material to get to the preposition part of the book!) But, it was the BEST way to learn that part because once you go through the sentences and get rid of (preps) and their phrases, it is soooo much easier to find the subject. I didn't learn that until HS!! And I remember struggling with it until some teacher told me that rule!

Anyway, good luck.
DD goes to a private school also and if we had nightly homework like Daxx's son, I'd be at school raising cane. I think some homework is good and some nights might be heavier than others but if that type of night became my child's life--sorry, I'd be at school very quickly (probably behind many other folks! LOL)

BTW, DD started cursive in 1st grade! She barely had all the printing down perfect when the cursive started and after Christmas break, EVERYTHING had to be done in cursive even spelling tests!!

I bet what/why/how they are teaching your DD with all this has a lot to do with those standardized/state tests. We are fortunate to take SAT and it is never an issue at our school.

 

[Buckalew11]

What does that mean? A random cheap shot that doesn't even make any sense. It's not the federal government's policy to decide who gets "pushed through." That's up to the states and local school districts. BUSH's No Child Left Behind was largely KENNEDY'S bill, and was widely accepted by both parties. Consider that a free lesson.

Now back to the actual debate. It does seem to me that is rather advanced work for 2nd grade. That's not necessarily bad in and of itself. What bothers me is they're being graded on it, and given letter grades. Sounds to me like the issue is with how your district, school, or even teacher is the source of the problem. I can't believe this is going on state-wide.

Also, parents have a lot of say these days about children being pushed through. Around here, a teacher can recommand to hold a student back and the parents has the final say whether little Johnny is held back or pushed through. I remember being in 7th grade (13yo) and there was a 16yo boy in the class!! I don't think that will ever happen again and probably shouldn't as he was about as wild and really rather smart even though he refused for the most part to do schoolwork.

And it does seemed advanced. It is like so often around here they'll start teaching algebra and those concepts but these kids don't even know their multiplication tables!! That seems like putting the cart before the horse to me!

 

[luvmyfam444]

naturally I can't find any info on the states education site --heading to bed guess I'll research it later...

THANKS for all the opinions - helps me know I"M not Crazy (yet!) but then knowing all this gets me nowhere - it's not like I can do anything about what' being taught anyway so I don't know why I bother thinking about it....

 

[luvmyfam444]

And it does seemed advanced. It is like so often around here they'll start teaching algebra and those concepts but these kids don't even know their multiplication tables!! That seems like putting the cart before the horse to me!

Yes, they have taught algebra concept to dd & we're still learniing addition/subt facts! She's brought home papers saying : 20 + _____=80. and then had it the other way ____ - 10 = 20. YEs, very basic,but still algebra! (for 2nd grade!) Most of her math wksh come home w/some problem on it called Algebra...there's been some rough ones(not those easy ones I listed!) that me, dh, & MIL couldnt' figure out...& often I'll just tell her the answers to write instead of confusing her more by trying to teach her.

 

[Marseeya]

naturally I can't find any info on the states education site --heading to bed guess I'll research it later...

THANKS for all the opinions - helps me know I"M not Crazy (yet!) but then knowing all this gets me nowhere - it's not like I can do anything about what' being taught anyway so I don't know why I bother thinking about it....

What state are you in? I've found that WV's is very similar to Pennsylvania's. I also think they are based on the NCTE standards, which I could find when I was looking. I have a copy of it around here somewhere.

 

[tmt martins]

What does that mean? A random cheap shot that doesn't even make any sense. It's not the federal government's policy to decide who gets "pushed through." That's up to the states and local school districts. BUSH's No Child Left Behind was largely KENNEDY'S bill, and was widely accepted by both parties. Consider that a free lesson

Well HIS policy stinks and it puts the STATE & LOCAL gov and school systems to get passing required numbers in order to get HIS funds .This forces them to JUST PUSH THROUGH.He should just give the money and check that it is being spent on the kids and not put into others pockets .Case and point B-More city doesn't make grad. requirements so HIS money is then paid to an outside company to run the schools .Again public money going to a private company with the same results because they are not under the guidelines as NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND.

SO YES THIS WAS A CHEAP SHOT that is costing me much of MY TAX money.And as far as accepted by both parties I don't really care one is just as corrupt as the other.

 

[Marseeya]

Well HIS policy stinks and it puts the STATE & LOCAL gov and school systems to get passing required numbers in order to get HIS funds .This forces them to JUST PUSH THROUGH.He should just give the money and check that it is being spent on the kids and not put into others pockets .Case and point B-More city doesn't make grad. requirements so HIS money is then paid to an outside company to run the schools .Again public money going to a private company with the same results because they are not under the guidelines as NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND.

SO YES THIS WAS A CHEAP SHOT that is costing me much of MY TAX money.And as far as accepted by both parties I don't really care one is just as corrupt as the other.

I don't think the federal government needs to have so much interest in what should be a state issue anyway.

 

[WIcruizer]

Well HIS policy stinks and it puts the STATE & LOCAL gov and school systems to get passing required numbers in order to get HIS funds .This forces them to JUST PUSH THROUGH

I'm sorry, but I'm having a difficult time following your point. You're upset because standards have been put in place, and that forces schools to "just push through" children? This doesn't make any sense. With NO standards the kids were just being pushed through. If more standards are in place, how does that force them to "just push through?"

He should just give the money and check that it is being spent on the kids

First, it is not President Bush's money. It is our money. Secondly, The President doesn't spend money, Congress does. And Congress overwhelmingly approved No Child Left Behind. I understand you hate President Bush. But believe it or not, President Bush (or any President for that matter) have very little to do with what happens in your daily life, including local school districts.

 

[tmt martins]

I'm sorry, but I'm having a difficult time following your point. You're upset because standards have been put in place, and that forces schools to "just push through" children? This doesn't make any sense. With NO standards the kids were just being pushed through. If more standards are in place, how does that force them to "just push through?".

Before they could fail and keep them back if they weren't at standards.But with this they are now also graded (monetary)on the grad /fail rate so that is a big difference.They have not put new standards in place only reward or deny money being given.

First, it is not President Bush's money. It is our money. Secondly, The President doesn't spend money, Congress does. And Congress overwhelmingly approved No Child Left Behind. I understand you hate President Bush. But believe it or not, President Bush (or any President for that matter) have very little to do with what happens in your daily life, including local school districts.

Yes I know this is our money and I NEVER said I hated Bush .I like most of what he does BUT some of his HOMELAND policies are not in the best interest of US THEY ( CONGRESS ) continue to funnle money into corperate america instead of where it really needs to be spent .Thats all I'm saying when I say BUSH I mean the Government he is HEAD of.