So When Did YOU Come Around on Same-Sex Marriage?

There's the stereotypical image of the gay man as flamboyant. Strangely enough, the whole "gay lisp" thing is pretty accurate where I live, although straight males often have a similar speech affectation. I remember meeting someone once with his wife, and if I didn't know they were married it would have totally set off most people's "gaydar".

I have no idea what this post has to do with thinking it's odd that gay people live normal lives.
 
I was against it. Not against civil unions, but the religious part of it. I was conflicted by my thoughts, so I talked to my priest. She asked me if I thought people were born gay. I said I did. So she planted the seed of thought for me to come around in my thinking. Plus the fact that some of our church's openly gay members have been such faithful servants of God, really had me rethinking my earlier stance. This was probably 4-5 yrs ago.
 
TE="mombrontrent, post: 53939232, member: 184462"]Honestly I was never against it. I could care less who wants to be married to who.[/QUOTE]
That is/was me. I had enough worry in my own life. Lol between finances., kids, relatives and my own marriage i had absolutely no energy left over to worry about some one else's relationships.
 

I was raised in a extremely conservative fundamental religion. Think of the most right wing, Fox news propaganda and that's what I was bombarded with from birth. As I became an adult and began to think for myself and meet people of many faiths, beliefs, backgrounds, I realized that I didn't agree with much that I had long been taught was truth. By the time marriage equality was being discussed, I had left those childhood beliefs way behind and have always supported it. My open support has apparently caused a rift in my extended family. My brother's words, "What today did was drive a wedge in families like mine. Why? Because it will be very difficult to have common ground with those who believe in this decision. Today is a sad day for many families like mine!"

For me, it was a sad day to think that my brother feels that way about me. For me there is no rift. I love my family even if we disagree but I won't be silent on issues that matter.
 
Thirty years ago I used to in favor of "civil unions" with all the legal protections only because "marriage" seemed like a pipe dream. I wasn't against same sex marriage, but I didn't really think it would ever happen and I thought it was unfair that long standing relationships could not be legalized in some fashion. I would say about 15-20 years ago I transitioned to marriage for all. It simply was not right that LBGT people didn't have the exact same rights, privileges and type of union that straight people enjoyed.
 
I'm going to encourage you to think about this from a different direction.

Christianity does not have a monopoly on the word marriage. Marriage has traditionally been a civil institution designed to formally recognize lifelong relationships and families. Across the globe, this has, for centuries, been used to describe a wide variety of relationships -- sororal & non-soral polygyny; fraternal and non-fraternal polyandry, monogamy, group marriage, etc. The concept of marriage has existed in many different cultures, religions, and legal frameworks.

Perhaps it would be a decent compromise, if those who wish to keep their religious institution separate from the legal concept of marriage that is not bound by religious law, if a different name were given to those religious ceremonies and unions. Maybe those should be called "religious unions," and they can have the same rights and privileges, just call it something other than marriage.
Not a bad idea except for most religious unions are both religious and civil.

Catholic wedding here. The priest was obviously OK to perform the religious part but he also had "the power vested in me by the state of Connecticut". He had both the civil and religious power to marry.

FTR, I've never had a problem
With same sex marriage.
 
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I've never had an issue with gay marriage. I'm 41, and pretty much everyone I know who is my age and younger is in favor of it. I will confess that I only recently came around on the transgender issue, maybe in the last year or so? I wasn't vocally against it, but just didn't "get it" but now I do.
 
I never really thought about it until I met my best friend and his partner 22 years ago in college. I felt bad for them, but they just accepted that marriage would never happen for them, so I did too.

Fast forward 8 years to the planning of my wedding and it really hit me how wrong it was that my 2 best friends were not able to experience what I was. I remember being excited to call DH my husband and to build a life with him. Marriage to me is so much more than just a piece of paper and it simply just wasn't fair that my friends were being denied that. Since then I have been 100% completely supportive of gay marriage. I'm not a person who gets involved in social activism, but I became involved and vocal in this cause.

My birthday was June 26, the day of the Supreme Court's announcement, and it was one of the best birthdays I've ever had, knowing how much this ruling would mean to my friends. They are 2 of the best people I've ever known and I'm beyond happy for them.
 
I never had to "come around" to it. My parents raised me to respect and accept all people regardless of race or sexuality, and we have had many gay and lesbian friends throughout our lives. I would never even think to deny any right to them because we're all just human beings :)
 
I admit it, I used to be against same-*** marriage. I remember, more or less, when I changed my mind - I believe it was sometime in late 2011 or early 2012.

Many notable politicians, even the president of the USA, were once against it but now feel that it is right that marriage should be equal for all.

So who here is willing to admit that you were once against it and are now for it? When did you change your mind? Maybe you'd even like to share what it was that made you re-think it.

I don't think I have ever seen anything wrong with same *** couples and it goes back to my aunt's sister being gay, she's been with the same partner since my aunt and uncle got married and I was much older when I was told about it being more than a roommate, I was 13 I believe when she told me about it.

I am born and raised Catholic, my dad is southern Baptist (so you know his view on it) and my parents raised us to be open minded on topics like this and didn't see anything wrong if we didn't view topics the way they do. My mom supports gay marriage and so does alot of her family, just depending. My view on it is, we were all put here by the same God above, he put gays, straight, lesbian, bi***ual, transgenders all on this earth. I believe you are born to be who you will be, there's no tricking some one into it.

I am also very much into musical theater and know many performers are gay, and I went to school with some one who was "straight" all through school and turned out he's gay.

But I see nothing wrong with it and love runs deeper than a piece of paper.
 
Well - I'm personally uncomfortable with the thought of many things. The thought of two gay guys getting it on makes me uncomfortable. However, that's my personal issue and nobody else's. Whether or not it makes me uncomfortable doesn't affect whether or not I believe it should be illegal or that gay marriage shouldn't be recognized. Way too often in this country's history, personal discomfort has driven civil rights issues

It probably depends on the couple. I've seen some pretty steamy gay love scenes on TV and in movies. I've also seen some hetro couples IRL that I certainly do not want to think that they might as you say...get it on. I think it's more of a how attractive the people are thing than what their sexual preference is.
 
Since I'm in a same-*** marriage I obviously have no problem with it! :D

I find it extremely odd that anyone WOULD have a problem with it, honestly.
Because nothing makes people happy more then telling others what they should do. I.think it's wonderful we live in a country allows this.
 
I was against it but didn't know why (I'm not religious) evolved into a libertarian over the years and realized it's none of my business and doesn't impact me at all....I err on the side of "live and let live"......
 
I was raised Catholic but we were a pretty liberal Catholic family as far as religious beliefs go. I've since strayed from the faith, but my parents always taught me to be open minded and tolerant, and for that I am grateful. So I never opposed the idea of marriage equality and honestly, can't completely understand why people have such problems with something that doesn't affect them in any way. To quote one of my fave songs right now, "mind your own biscuits and life will be gravy!" :goodvibes
 
I am actually still on the fence about it. I will admit that when Michigan voted on same sex marriage I did vote against it. From the religious standpoint I thought it was wrong. Part of me still does, and I'm sorry if people think I'm wrong or ignorant or intolerant or whatever. We all have the right to feel the way we do about it. I have tried and tried to get past how I feel. I have nothing against gay people as individuals. I met "the Fabulous Beekman Boys" (Josh and Brent, winners of season 21 of The Amazing Race) and they are very sweet. I once worked with a guy I thought might be gay (never knew for sure) and he was a very kind and nice person but personally I really don't "know" anyone that is gay, and maybe that's why I feel the way I do about gay marriage. I think back about how many people couldn't stand black people and white people being together and then marrying. Some were strongly opposed, and some probably still are. I never understood that. Black. White. People. No difference. I had absolutely no problem with it, and still don't. Skin color is so unimportant to me. It's how a person treats others, and what's in their heart, and their character, that is what matters. So then I think I should feel the same way about gay marriage. Why should it bother me? It doesn't affect me. I'm not forced to marry a woman. Gay marriage doesn't make my marriage less valid. So I struggle with how I feel about it, but am willing to admit that I struggle. As I said, the religious part of me thinks it's wrong. I do believe in God and he created woman for man. But then the other part of me thinks "who cares, live and let live."

One other thing, so many who are for gay marriage want people who aren't to be "tolerant" and "accepting." Well, that goes both ways. People who are for it should be tolerant of those who aren't. Everyone is entitled to their viewpoint on the subject. And it does kind of bother me that a select few on a "Supreme Court" can decide what is right for the entire country. I think it should be put to a vote of the people, and let each state have a vote of their people. I do feel that I would just not vote on it if it came up on Michigan's ballot again though. I'm trying, that's all I can really say.
 













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