Snowflake children

[Eeyores Butterfly]

I don't have kids and I'm not a huge fan of the term. I think it gets overused, particularly on the DIS. It's like sarcasm, best when used sparingly.

As for the leashes: I used to think I would never use them. Then two things happened: 1.) I worked in a daycare and 2.) I worked in Fantasyland. Our daycare was built on bluffs overlooking the Missouri River and the two years olds loved to walk to the wall and look down at the river. Since there were more of them than there were of us, we used the leashes. You know what? They loved it! They hated holding our hands. To them, the leash was freedom.

After working Fantasyland, I vowed that my kids would be on leashes at Disney. That place is lost parent central. I have seen kids get lost when they were holding a parents' hand. My favorite was the three year old boy who went to return his Philhar glasses. The father stood right there and watched him from maybe 3 feet. A group walked between them and -bam!-, the kid is gone. He made it all the way to Yankee Trader in Liberty Square in 5 minutes during Wishes. It happens so quickly.

 

[disneyfav4ever]

I've only heard it on the DIS.

 

[FireDancer]

I am the sister in law of Kiki Mouse. I just found this post by chance and I want to make one thing clear this personal attack is not true and slanderous. I work full time and have been attending school full time for two years. It is my choice where I want to live and with whom. I would love to know why people find it acceptable to slam people (even their own family) publicly and not even give the person a chance to speak for themselves. I live in a good home with loving parents who love me and I them, we are a close family and I make my choices. No one forces me into any kind of decisions I make.

Shame on you Kiki Mouse for trying to tear apart your husband's family. Kiki Mouse has been on a month long mission to tear our family apart and now she's taken it online....how low can you go? I am appalled and upset about this

Actually I believe it would be libelous (unless your computer has text to speech ), but I'm calling shenanigans.

 

[chloelovesdisney]

Actually I believe it would be libelous, unless your computer has text to speech , but I'm calling shenanigans.

No one even knows who they are, I call it nothing more than a family squabble.

 

[Beeba Belle]

Yes it was and what is that expression? Oh Yeah,

The truth hurts.......

Yes, Hannathy, the truth does hurt. Kiki Mouse knows her family is on the DIS boards and yet chooses to speak of them this way.

What hurts is that Kiki Mouse is speaking about her husband's family knowing full well that the chances of her sil and bil reading her post is very good.

Hannathy, do you not think that sil and bil are very hurt and upset that she is posting so negatively about them? Please show some sensitivity and not make flip comments about a situation you know nothing about.

This is a REAL family and REAL people....please no inflammatory or hurtful comments about sil and bil posts!! Thank you.

I've been reading posts on the DIS boards for several months now and I've been brought to tears reading some of the hurtful comments posted about people...never thought I'd read something about my own family here. Very sad and upset. What's to be gained from writing hurtful comments about people on these boards.

It doesn't matter that all of you read Kiki Mouse's post....it only matters that sil and bil read it...again please be sensitive to their feelings and not post if you have only negative and hurtful things to say...thank you.

 

[FireDancer]

No one even knows who they are, I call it nothing more than a family squabble.

I don't mean the situation, I mean the person claiming to be the SIL is probably just another DISer messing around. It could be them I guess, but what are the odds of a random family member from Manitoba magically finding a post by another family member who is not even using their real name on a message board?

 

[chloelovesdisney]

Yes, Hannathy, the truth does hurt. Kiki Mouse knows her family is on the DIS boards and yet chooses to speak of them this way.

What hurts is that Kiki Mouse is speaking about her husband's family knowing full well that the chances of her sil and bil reading her post is very good.

Hannathy, do you not think that sil and bil are very hurt and upset that she is posting so negatively about them? Please show some sensitivity and not make flip comments about a situation you know nothing about.

This is a REAL family and REAL people....please no inflammatory or hurtful comments about sil and bil posts!! Thank you.

I've been reading posts on the DIS boards for several months now and I've been brought to tears reading some of the hurtful comments posted about people...never thought I'd read something about my own family here. Very sad and upset. What's to be gained from writing hurtful comments about people on these boards.

It doesn't matter that all of you read Kiki Mouse's post....it only matters that sil and bil read it...again please be sensitive to their feelings and not post if you have only negative and hurtful things to say...thank you.

It probably would have been a good idea if BIL and SIL just called and spoke with her to discuss it privately instead of bringing it here. Once something is posted here it's open for public discussion which will bring both positive and negative comments. I'm sure this would be much better resolved privately tomorrow, instead of tonight on the board.

 

[Beeba Belle]

No one even knows who they are, I call it nothing more than a family squabble.

Yes, up until this evening, no one knew who 'we' were. We joined the DIS boards to learn more about Disney because we are planning a Disney vacation later this year. Nothing magical about reading posts such as the one Kiki Mouse decided to share with all of you.


Yes, a "family squabble" that should have been kept private, off the DIS boards or any other public forum. Again, I ask you all to please respect bil and sil's posts. Please don't fuel the fire that Kiki Mouse has started with her post...thank you.

 

[chloelovesdisney]

I don't mean the situation, I mean the person claiming to be the SIL is probably just another DISer messing around. It could be them I guess, but what are the odds of a random family member from Manitoba magically finding a post by another family member who is not even using their real name on a message board?

I don't know, they seem awfully serious for a hoax but I guess anything is possible.

 

[Beeba Belle]

It probably would have been a good idea if BIL and SIL just called and spoke with her to discuss it privately instead of bringing it here. Once something is posted here it's open for public discussion which will bring both positive and negative comments. I'm sure this would be much better resolved privately tomorrow, instead of tonight on the board.

Again, I ask you ....please do NOT comment on these posts...how do you know what bil and sil have attempted to do? It does no good to speculate, please find something more interesting to post about...thank you.

 

[Beeba Belle]

I don't know, they seem awfully serious for a hoax but I guess anything is possible.

No hoax. Please DO NOT continue to comment on their posts....they are VERY upset right now that their sil is posting such hateful comments behind their backs. Thank you.

 

[chloelovesdisney]

Yes, up until this evening, no one knew who 'we' were. We joined the DIS boards to learn more about Disney because we are planning a Disney vacation later this year. Nothing magical about reading posts such as the one Kiki Mouse decided to share with all of you.


Yes, a "family squabble" that should have been kept private, off the DIS boards or any other public forum. Again, I ask you all to please respect bil and sil's posts. Please don't fuel the fire that Kiki Mouse has started with her post...thank you.

No one is fueling the fire except for you all with your posting about it.

 

[FireDancer]

Again, I ask you ....please do NOT comment on these posts...how do you know what bil and sil have attempted to do? It does no good to speculate, please find something more interesting to post about...thank you.

No hoax. Please DO NOT continue to comment on their posts....they are VERY upset right now that their sil is posting such hateful comments behind their backs. Thank you.

No one has any idea who the heck you people are so posting about the SIL and BIL of a made up for the Internet persona is fueling nothing. Had you not quoted your "SIL" and then drawn attention to the post it would have faded into the abyss that is the community board with no one really taking note of it.

One could make the argument that demanding someone stop discussing an anonymous person on a discussion board is pretty snowflakish and goes to prove the point that was being made in the post you are so concerned about. Not that I would make that claim of course.

 

[Hannathy]

No

One could make the argument that demanding someone stop discussing an anonymous person on a discussion board is pretty snowflakish. Not that I would make that claim of course.

And pretty much proves what KikiMouse posted in her post.

 

[FireDancer]

And pretty much proves what KikiMouse posted in her post.

I was just adding that to the post but you beat me to it.

 

[chloelovesdisney]

And pretty much proves what KikiMouse posted in her post.

I was just adding that to the post but you beat me to it.

We're supposed to find something more interesting to post about.

 

[Beeba Belle]

I was just adding that to the post but you beat me to it.

This is my last post to this thread...I was asking that all of you kindly respect my family....but I see that some are just waiting to attack. Just trying to minimize the damage done from K. M.'s post. When I said 'fuel the fire'...of course I meant in my family.

Of course I'd try to minimize hurtful situations for upset family members....who wouldn't? And what was wrong with asking posters for their sensitivity to this matter? Thanks to those who have refrained from commenting.

 

[LuluLovesDisney]

I'd go with option 3 - neither snowflake nor helicopter parent! Non-abusive, well-meaning parents generally aren't the cause of their children's mental health issues. It's heredity or genetics or misfortune or some combination of all of the above.

His parents are most likely doing the best they can, in a very difficult situation. Poor kid!

FWIW, while overwhelming fear is a real problem, the death obsession is actually pretty common in bright children, mainly because they understand intellectually what death means before they're old enough to cope with it emotionally. My daughter first started crying about death when she was about 4 years old and terrified that we'd die before her and leave her all alone. She was about 12 when she sobbed copiously through lots of otherwise harmless movies, such as "Click" (when the main character dies briefly) and "The Fiddler on the Roof" (when the father rejects his daughter).

However, my approach is a little different - when she was four, I told her souls are eternal so no one has to leave anyone if they don't want to, and I pinky-promised to haunt her as long as she needs me. And I force her to watch to the end of movies, because I feel it is VERY important that she get the whole story and experience the happy ending.

However, my daughter is just bright and sensitive. She doesn't have an anxiety disorder, so I can actually get away with saying, "Suck it up, buttercup!" It wouldn't work with other kids. Some kids are fragile and it's not their fault, or their parents fault. Trying to toughen them up just does more harm than good.

I was one of these death obsessed kids. I always tested in the 97-99the percentile and I totally agree with the intellectual understanding coming before the emotional capacity to deal. I think you're doing a great job.

I can see the thread has derailed a little, I just wanted to say that in graduate school, my professors have discussed the problems of "snowflakes" and helicopter parents in our classes.

 

[mickeysgal]

This is my last post to this thread...I was asking that all of you kindly respect my family....but I see that some are just waiting to attack. Just trying to minimize the damage done from K. M.'s post. When I said 'fuel the fire'...of course I meant in my family.

Of course I'd try to minimize hurtful situations for upset family members....who wouldn't? And what was wrong with asking posters for their sensitivity to this matter? Thanks to those who have refrained from commenting.

Thank you for letting us know of your grand exit from this thread.

Now can we take this back on topic?

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Thank you for letting us know of your grand exit from this thread.

The flakes have left the building.