Smok'em if ya Got'em

[peter11435]

To the best of my recollection (which granted, isn't saying much) the only DSA in the vicinity of Main Street is over by Tony's. I'm not advocating the lights suggestion, but really, how disruptive would a colored bulb there really be?

You are correct that the only smoking sections on Main Street are near Tony's and near the Plaza Restaurant. However I do think a colored light would be disruptive. Imagine looking around Town Square with all of the white lights along the buildings and street lights and there in the corner is a bright blue light on the ground. While you may not agree I think it would be very disruptive.

 

[peter11435]

i guess i should weigh in on this smoking topic because i feel it is an issue. ask any smoker to ask a friend who doesnt smoke to if they could try an experiment on them, just blow some of your cigarette smoke in their face and see what happens. i can safely say that in a large majority of times the person who does not smoke will have a reaction to smoke and will start coughing. their system will react to the smoke and will try to expel it from their system. i know this is a real far fetched example to make a point about people who smoke in non-designated spaces. i do not want the smoke from your cigarette invading my lungs. are not a certain amount of carcinogens contained in second-hand smoke?

if you choose to smoke that is your right to do so but it is not your right to light up in areas that are designated as non- smoking areas. if i am walking in an area that has smokers i avoid that area. i will not i ask them to put out their cigarette beause i do not like cigarette smoke.


my DW smokes and she always goes to the smoking areas but this is where i see a few problems that many smokers here have echoed. the smoking areas are not easily found. we had maps and sometimes couldnt find the spot to smoke. often the only way we found the spot was by looking for the garbage cans that had the ash tray built on top of them. if there were larger signs or better designation of the smoking areas or larger smoking areas then maybe there wouldnt be so many people walking around WDW smoking.

what would make the CM's job easier in controlling this issue is if WDW would make up cards with the smoking policy written on them in different languages. this way in a non-combative and sort of secretive wasy they could just hand the smoker the card and ask them to read it.


just my 2 cents worth

BTW i love the law in NY that prohibits smoking in resturants.

Every park has maps with the no-smoking policy printed in almost every language. Just stop by guest relations and they will give you one.

 

[kelscross]

I smoke and of course I go to the smoking area to do so. I agree with the other poster that said a smoker who doesn't use the proper areas should come and defend themselves. I was wondering why those individuals do that as well.

It peeves me to no end to see someone walking around with a lit cig. We go to an amusement park that is close to our home here in Ohio and there are designated areas but people are smoking and walking like crazy!! Even before they started making smoking areas I NEVER walked around with a lit cig.

When we were at WDW this July we were waiting in line for the Hoop Dee Doo and an entire family lit up right behind us. One of them actually came close to burning my 5 yo's hair with her cig dangling in her hand. I said something to her and she muttered something in her language and continued smoking.

My mother and I lit up in an area in tomorrowland that we thought was the smoking area and we were asked politely to move by a passing CM. I was so embarrassed, the area was right across the way. I asked the CM if he wanted us to put the cigs out before we moved and he said no it was okay, just to please move to the designated area. In MK also I asked a security guard where the nearest smoking area was in Fantasyland and he said to just smoke where we were (by the Winnie the Pooh ride). There was no ashtray can so we smoked and squished them on the ground and picked them up to throw them away when they were cooled.

It's funny though when we would go to the DSA we referred to it as the "Leper Colony"...

 

[Donnask8pro]

I guess it's my turn..
I have a 5yr old with Asthma, and a 11 yr old with Cerebal Palsy. MY biggest problem is the the people who walk around with it in their hands. Which happens to be eye level with my 5 yr old and eye level with my older sons wheelchair. I can't tell you how many times I have to defend their faces from lite cigarettes. If someone wants to smoke thats their business. Kill yourself. But, Please don't burn my kids in the process.

 

[Densgirl]

I don't smoke but generally visit with somone who does. We always use the DSA's and are frustrated too with those that don't. DB will generally try to let them know there are DSA's available. The DSA's are nice and the people in them nicer. There are tons of them and they are clearly marked on the maps. Why anyone would want to walk around little kids with a lit cigarette is beyond me.

I have to agree with other posters too though that although they are marked, people who don't smoke continually come into them and make rude remarks while people are just there trying to follow the rules. If you are standing next to an ashtray, WDW probably approved that location for smoking. Just an observation from being in them but not being a smoker.

 

[jrogers345]

And so it shall continue - and your hopes can remain high (doesn't bother me either way). The previous poster commented on giving him a break about designated rules he obviously doesn't feel are worthy of being followed (if I am wrong about that assumption, he can certainly correct me)...his right to that opinion, my right to challenge it. For those of us who cannot handle adult verbiage, I'll go back and edit my earlier post.

Yes, you are wrong in your assumption. I DO follow the rules and WILL when I go to WDW. I still think it's ridiculous to be limited to certain areas "outside". I completely understand not smoking inside. I haven't smoked inside my own house for years and don't smoke inside even in houses, restaurants, etc. where it is still allowed. I always go outside.

Remember, when you assume you make an *** out of you and me

 

[Hodder]

Yes, you are wrong in your assumption. I DO follow the rules and WILL when I go to WDW. I still think it's ridiculous to be limited to certain areas "outside". I completely understand not smoking inside. I haven't smoked inside my own house for years and don't smoke inside even in houses, restaurants, etc. where it is still allowed. I always go outside.

Remember, when you assume you make an *** out of you and me

Just want you to clarify because I want to understand correctly..do you feel that there should be DSA or people should not be limited?

(I just don't want to Assume....he he)

 

[C.Ann]

Yes, you are wrong in your assumption. I DO follow the rules and WILL when I go to WDW. I still think it's ridiculous to be limited to certain areas "outside". I completely understand not smoking inside. I haven't smoked inside my own house for years and don't smoke inside even in houses, restaurants, etc. where it is still allowed. I always go outside.

Remember, when you assume you make an *** out of you and me

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When you're dealing with anti-smokers you will never win.. They will accept nothing less than a total ban on smoking everywhere - indoors; outdoors; in your home; in your car; in your backyard; and of course, in designated smoking areas..

Just follow the Disney rules to the tee and if someone still feels the need to complain, just remind them that you ARE following the current guidelines.. (And do it in a "nice" way of course.. No reason to stoop to their level.. )

 

[Luigi's Girl]

And so it shall continue - and your hopes can remain high (doesn't bother me either way). The previous poster commented on giving him a break about designated rules he obviously doesn't feel are worthy of being followed (if I am wrong about that assumption, he can certainly correct me)...his right to that opinion, my right to challenge it. For those of us who cannot handle adult verbiage, I'll go back and edit my earlier post.

Not everyone who reads and posts on the disboards are adults.

 

[Hodder]

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When you're dealing with anti-smokers you will never win.. They will accept nothing less than a total ban on smoking everywhere - indoors; outdoors; in your home; in your car; in your backyard; and of course, in designated smoking areas..

Just follow the Disney rules to the tee and if someone still feels the need to complain, just remind them that you ARE following the current guidelines.. (And do it in a "nice" way of course.. No reason to stoop to their level.. )

I use to smoke but have been quit now for 1 yr 8mths (didn't want to quit as i thoroughly enjoyed every puff....but watch my mom with cancer certainly helped). Didn't smoke around kids or in the house either.

I don't expect or want a total ban as I have walked in those shoes,but I don't want smoking everywhere...such as line up and so forth or walking through the park.

I remember my mom had a very hard time breathing when it had spread to her lungs and as our upcoming trip was suppose to be with her & dad I wouldn't have wanted someone blowing it in her face.

I agree some people will complain even when you are following the rules...just ignore them, they have to deal with their own miserable lives.

 

[jrogers345]

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When you're dealing with anti-smokers you will never win.. They will accept nothing less than a total ban on smoking everywhere - indoors; outdoors; in your home; in your car; in your backyard; and of course, in designated smoking areas..

Just follow the Disney rules to the tee and if someone still feels the need to complain, just remind them that you ARE following the current guidelines.. (And do it in a "nice" way of course.. No reason to stoop to their level.. )

Believe me, I will be following the rules. I am always considerate of non-smokers when I'm with them. This is the first time I've run into a place that has DSA outside. It was refreshing when I was in Europe couple years ago. A lot of europeans still smoke and they're not into being PC over there.

Last year when I was in NYC seeing a broadway play during intermission when everyone went outside on the sidewalk to have a cig, there was this woman standing there complaining about how we were polluting her air. Gee, I guess she likes only breathing in the fumes from the cars and buses that are bumper to bumper in Manhattan

 

[freakylick]

I still think it's ridiculous to be limited to certain areas "outside".

Just trying to understand, but what is so ridiculous about it?!

 

[Lives4Disney]

I totally agree with the OP. We just returned Saturday from a great weeklong trip to WDW, and I was shocked by the absolute disregard people had for the parks and rules.

We saw MANY people walking, smoking & then just dropping their butt on the ground wherever.

I stepped in gum. Saw piggy people just leave their trash on tables and leave (MANY times) Saw a teenager dump his coke into the moat & another scoop his sweaty hat into an ice bin and put the ice & hat on his head......very revealing, tasteless clothes....

I was disappointed this time by the lack of respect so many people seemed to have for these beautiful parks. I also was surprised that I didn't see any CMs telling people they shouldn't be smoking wherever they pleased. My kids noticed smokers everywhere and the smell grossed them out. I grew up with a smoker father, but he has respect for nonsmokers and wishes he were one of us!

Maybe just the summer crowd? Go home and stay away!

Lives4Disney

 

[kellyanne731]

I have to say that as a former smoker I enjoy the DSA. Even when I smoked, I never wanted to be enveloped in perpetual clouds of smoke. When I was at Disney over Christmas with my fiance and father, they did get busted for smoking in a non-smoking area. However, dad hadn't been to Disney in over 10 years, so none of us were aware of the smoking areas. The CM directed them to a DSA, and we very politely moved and used the DSAs for the rest of the week.

I completely understand that the rules are set up for maximum comfort of the guests. It's really no biggie as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Pluto4Me]

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Originally Posted by KatheeME

So is NJ. They're talking right now about banning smoking in your own car!

I would love that for one, I hate having to roll up windows in traffic in order to not be subjected to the smoke!


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"Were you able to type that with a straight face? It's got to be one of the funniest things I've ever read here...

Sorry, but I actually spit coffee all over my keyboard on that one..
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C.Ann"

Believe it or not C.Ann, it is a new law they are trying to get through here in NJ!

Know I'm going off-topic, but they think here that it is more distracting than chatting away on a cell phone - and being a pedestrian in the city can be very dangerous - I can't tell you how many times I've had to jump out of the way because people are more involved in their conversations than watching the road! - Go figure.

 

[daisax]

I'm an adult who's been burned, literally. In New Orleans, not Disney, but I was just minding my business walking casually down the street, when somebody waved his hand with his cig in it right into the back of my hand. It couldn't have been a more direct hit if we planned it (it was a total coincidence of him gesturing and my hand gently swinging right into position at that instant).

I still have a round white scar on the back of my hand, 20 years later. I can't imagine how that scar would look on the forehead or cheek (god forbid, eye) of a little kid.

Went to Disney with my smoking sis and brother in law two years ago. They only smoked in designated areas. I don't recall it taking long to find them, but man, the waste of time! We were so happy when we went our separate ways and didn't have to stop every three rides for another cigarette break.

 

[maxiesmom]

I just had a thought. Maybe we should all start packing small water pistols! Then we can just shoot-out the cigarettes of people who are out of bounds! And you could use them to remain cool too!!

 

[C.Ann]

I just had a thought. Maybe we should all start packing small water pistols! Then we can just shoot-out the cigarettes of people who are out of bounds! And you could use them to remain cool too!!

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Actually the misting fans would work the same way - just don't turn the fan part on..

 

[maxiesmom]

Good point! And that way we can make it look like an accident!

 

[littlebigdog]

I just had a thought. Maybe we should all start packing small water pistols! Then we can just shoot-out the cigarettes of people who are out of bounds! And you could use them to remain cool too!!