Sister Wives

[lisaviolet]

I'd have to think that it is though, from their perspective anyway. The whole idea of their celestial marriages and the sealing of family in eternity (including all their children) and several other aspects unique to their religion would make it quite different. I am very interested in these things and would love it if there was anyone here who could tell us exactly how an "uncoupling" would work.

Yes. Understand.

But it is still the slow death of a relationship/marriage, in the end. That is my point. As they have always said, in many ways they are not all that different a la the ins and outs of meandering relationships.

@wenrob needs to fill us in on the other aspects. I too am interested Annette. (It is wenrob, right? That has the background? )

 

[lisaviolet]

The whole idea of their celestial marriages and the sealing of family in eternity (including all their children)

And yet they hardly followed that on earth. They were forever saying "my children" "______'s children". Never ever our, when our made complete sense with the statement/thought process at times. It was bizarre to me.

 

[prairie_girl]

Last night, I decided to watch the first few episodes again, just to see how much things have changed since then and something really stood out to me.

In the first episode, when Christine is introduced, it is shown that she received quite a bit of teasing because she read on the internet that more people are killed by toasters than by sharks, and that's why she doesn't own a toaster. Kody is pretty direct in his teasing saying "oh sure, you read it on the internet. You have to believe it then"

How much does anyone want to bet me that during the pandemic and especially since vaccines became available that Kody is relying heavily on the internet and quoting it as fact?


She was right to run.

 

[wenrob]

Yes. Understand.

But it is still the slow death of a relationship/marriage, in the end. That is my point. As they have always said, in many ways they are not all that different a la the ins and outs of meandering relationships.

@wenrob needs to fill us in on the other aspects. I too am interested Annette. (It is wenrob, right? That has the background? )

Well if you believe in Celestial marriage then you believe it’s forever. Getting it undone (in the spiritual sense) is next to impossible. Traditionally it’s only granted in the most extreme circumstances and usually it’s the man who has the power here. If I had to guess they probably will consider themselves always spiritually married. Which if Christine genuinely believes it has to have her a little scared because if she’s the one who chose to leave the marriage then she’s the one who broke the sacrament and won’t make it to the same plane as her family. At least that’s how I remember it in it the traditional sense. They could have agreed just to live separate lives while still remaining spiritually married but that would keep her trapped because she’d still be considered his wife. They have to appeal to the leaders to have it undone and it would be Kody who would have the most sway. I get the impression the higher ups aren’t really happy with the Browns so who knows how that would go.

I think doing the show and engaging with a more modern world has probably shaken all of their faith/beliefs. You can see the evolution as time goes by. When they first moved to Vegas I’d see them out and about at Walmart etc. and they dressed much more conservatively than you would see on the show. As time went by you could see things loosening up and each of them gaining some independence. Most markedly you saw this with the older kids. Kody tried to blame Vegas for it but really it was just them being out of the bubble. That’s why Kody was so angry the last couple of seasons. He lost control of his wives, they all started to think for themselves. I think that’s why Christine wanted to go back to Utah so bad. She saw it happening and wanted to get back to that bubble where it was “safe” and things would go back to the way they were.

 

[mickeystoontown]

Christine posted this on her lularoe facebook page:

Wonderful Group of Mine:
First off, I want to thank you for your ongoing support. I know you probably have many questions for me, but because my leaving has been documented as part of our family’s show, most of your questions will be answered on our episodes. As stated in the announcements, questions about my life, my family, or the show are not permitted on live sales. Thank you for your understanding and cooperation.

 

[lisaviolet]

If I had to guess they probably will consider themselves always spiritually married.

I think so too.

But then again she's young still, that can't leave room for another man. But neither could fully leaving anyway, with the celestial bond. Oh the irony with Cody and dating.

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All was very interesting wenrob, thank you.

 

[lisaviolet]

If Christine keeps filming going forward, maybe we will see the return of this guy

 

[lisaviolet]

Last night, I decided to watch the first few episodes again, just to see how much things have changed since then and something really stood out to me.

On episode two and the introduction of Robyn. Two things stood out, watching again.

One, Christine was continually vocal about her apprehension with the choice surrounding Cody dating after all those years. So different then Meri and Janelle.

And Robyn acted so teenage-like around Cody, especially on his arrival. Wait! Maybe that is a dis to teenagers.

 

[lisaviolet]

There is a third! Boy oh boy was Cody meant for the camera. It was like he had no learning curve right out of the gate.

 

[lisaviolet]

And yet they hardly followed that on earth. They were forever saying "my children" "______'s children". Never ever our, when our made complete sense with the statement/thought process at times. It was bizarre to me.

And this!

Interestingly enough the words "our children" was used during these early episodes.

 

[wenrob]

I think so too.

But then again she's young still, that can't leave room for another man. But neither could fully leaving anyway, with the celestial bond. Oh the irony with Cody and dating.

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All was very interesting wenrob, thank you.

She’s been conditioned her entire life to this faith and lifestyle. I’m not sure she’d even want to date or could bring herself to do it. Then again, of all of them she was the last one I thought would ever walk away and she did so who knows?

If Christine keeps filming going forward, maybe we will see the return of this guy

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Oh dear lawd.

 

[Claudia1]

I’m asking this out of sheer ignorance so I hope I make sense. If Christine is from “royalty” and she has gone back “home”, would anybody sitting in judgement of the dissolution be a family member or lean toward her position?

 

[neverlandsky]

By her leaving, the show can continue on like TLC's Little People Big World following Amy & Matt through divorce, navigating life after, and starting anew.

 

[OhMari]

A few years ago, Cody went on small vacations with each wife. I think they saw a therapist and the therapist was trying to help them and give them suggestions to strengthen their marriage. Cody acted all offended and distracted like Christine was just a whiny person. I remember when they built a stone tower, the therapist asked Christine to ask Cody where she stood. He told her she was part of the whole picture, the whole formation that was his family. He could not tell her that she was on top of that formation. I think Robin was texting him too during their time and he just wanted to get back to Robin. Christine made a comment that Cody does not get it or her, I really felt hat was her tipping point. I am shocked she didn’t go sooner.

 

[CdnCarrie]

By her leaving, the show can continue on like TLC's Little People Big World following Amy & Matt through divorce, navigating life after, and starting anew.

Bingo!

 

[prairie_girl]

A few years ago, Cody went on small vacations with each wife. I think they saw a therapist and the therapist was trying to help them and give them suggestions to strengthen their marriage. Cody acted all offended and distracted like Christine was just a whiny person. I remember when they built a stone tower, the therapist asked Christine to ask Cody where she stood. He told her she was part of the whole picture, the whole formation that was his family. He could not tell her that she was on top of that formation. I think Robin was texting him too during their time and he just wanted to get back to Robin. Christine made a comment that Cody does not get it or her, I really felt hat was her tipping point. I am shocked she didn’t go sooner.

Are you sure you’re OhMari and not OhMeri?

 

[ronandannette]

I’m asking this out of sheer ignorance so I hope I make sense. If Christine is from “royalty” and she has gone back “home”, would anybody sitting in judgement of the dissolution be a family member or lean toward her position?

In any culture that is strongly patriarchal (not just FLDS or any religion necessarily) I’d imagine a woman leaving her husband would not be approved of and being “royalty” would come with an even greater expectation of perfect compliance to the system.

 

[OhMari]

Are you sure you’re OhMari and not OhMeri?

When I was little my nickname was Mari, my real name is Marisa. The letter a is short like “argggg”. II sure don’t get how they get Mary out of Meri, but maybe it is like Merry Christmas. If I was Meri, I would of been out of that situation a long time ago.

 

[wenrob]

A few years ago, Cody went on small vacations with each wife. I think they saw a therapist and the therapist was trying to help them and give them suggestions to strengthen their marriage. Cody acted all offended and distracted like Christine was just a whiny person. I remember when they built a stone tower, the therapist asked Christine to ask Cody where she stood. He told her she was part of the whole picture, the whole formation that was his family. He could not tell her that she was on top of that formation. I think Robin was texting him too during their time and he just wanted to get back to Robin. Christine made a comment that Cody does not get it or her, I really felt hat was her tipping point. I am shocked she didn’t go sooner.

I remember this. I was SO mad at him. The exercise was supposed to be about THEM and he kept turning it into being about the family.

In any culture that is strongly patriarchal (not just FLDS or any religion necessarily) I’d imagine a woman leaving her husband would not be approved of and being “royalty” would come with an even greater expectation of perfect compliance to the system.

Exactly. I would not be at all surprised if she was shunned. Even if Kody had been the one to end it, it still would’ve be seen as a failure on her part.

When I was little my nickname was Mari, my real name is Marisa. The letter a is short like “argggg”. II sure don’t get how they get Mary out of Meri, but maybe it is like Merry Christmas. If I was Meri, I would of been out of that situation a long time ago.

I knew a Merri born on Christmas Day. And I’ve been saying your name in my head wrong all these years.

 

[prairie_girl]

When I was little my nickname was Mari, my real name is Marisa. The letter a is short like “argggg”. II sure don’t get how they get Mary out of Meri, but maybe it is like Merry Christmas. If I was Meri, I would of been out of that situation a long time ago.

Uh oh..this is going to restart the whole Marry, Merry, Mary debate. For the record, they all sound the same to me.