Sister Wives

[mom2rtk]

I went down an IG rabbit hole last night and someone who is apparently in the know on polygamy said the reason Robin lets her use a pacifier this long is because Kody only likes young kids. Robyn knows Kody discards the kids once they get older and also discards the wives once they stop giving him children. It's called "putting the wife out to pasture." Women fear this happening and go to disturbing lengths to stop it from happening. So she will keep Ariella "young" for as long as she can.

I don't know how true it is but Kody did start discarding his wives once they stopped giving him babies and Robyn could and did.

Dang I hadn’t heard that theory. I could see it. Might also explain why Aurora acts like a little girl all the time.

It could also explain some of Robyn’s angst. She doesn’t miss those wives. She sees the loss of her position as youngest wife. Because now he is motivated to add a younger wife if he wants more little kids. And Robyn will soon enough be in the position the other 3 wives fled.

Regardless, they have done a real disservice to that girl. Her teeth and speech seem to be suffering. And no way classmates aren’t ridiculing her over it.

 

[mom2rtk]

I just can’t get over Kody taking his issues with the wives out on the kids. He just puts it out there. I guess he thinks people will agree with him?

 

[mi*vida*loca]

Dang I hadn’t heard that theory. I could see it. Might also explain why Aurora acts like a little girl all the time.

Regardless, they have done a real disservice to that girl. Her teeth and speech seem to be suffering. And no way classmates aren’t ridiculing her over it.

My first thought when I saw the pacifier was does she take it to school? She wasn’t even sucking it, that I could see anyway. It was more of a holding it in her mouth or biting down on it. There’s no need for it. Just throw them out.

 

[mom2rtk]

My first thought when I saw the pacifier was does she take it to school? She wasn’t even sucking it, that I could see anyway. It was more of a holding it in her mouth or biting down on it. There’s no need for it. Just throw them out.

It doesn’t even matter if she takes it to school. The classmates will see or hear about it and recess with will be brutal. Even if she has given it up since that filming.

 

[tink2424]

I just can’t get over Kody taking his issues with the wives out on the kids. He just puts it out there. I guess he thinks people will agree with him?

I know, right? It's no wonder a lot of the older kids want nothing to do with him.

 

[mi*vida*loca]

I just can’t get over Kody taking his issues with the wives out on the kids. He just puts it out there. I guess he thinks people will agree with him?

He truly thinks he is right and everyone else is wrong. And he can't fathom anyone thinking otherwise.

His "blame the wife" game for his kids disliking him is so narcissistic. He can't possibly comprehend that his kids dislike him for who he is as a father and person. That has never crossed his mind. It can only be because the wife has turned them against him.

I'm also over Robyn bringing her kids into everything that is about her and Kody. Everything is "Janelle's boys don't want to spend Christmas with me and my kids, Christine doesn't want a relationship with me and my kids, The kids don't want to be around me and my kids." NO Robyn. Stop making your children martyrs too and bringing them into you and Kody's drama. She is turning her kids against their siblings by including them in all of this. Never have I heard anyone say they don't want to be around Robyn's kids. They don't want to be around their father. They also don't want to be around Robyn for other reasons.

 

[tink2424]

I'm also over Robyn bringing her kids into everything that is about her and Kody. Everything is "Janelle's boys don't want to spend Christmas with me and my kids, Christine doesn't want a relationship with me and my kids, The kids don't want to be around me and my kids." NO Robyn. Stop making your children martyrs too and bringing them into you and Kody's drama. She is turning her kids against their siblings by including them in all of this. Never have I heard anyone say they don't want to be around Robyn's kids. They don't want to be around their father. They also don't want to be around Robyn for other reasons.

Totally agree!! She makes everything about her and her kids... No one has any problem with her kids. They resent Robin due to Kody. She should blame him, not them.

 

[mi*vida*loca]

Totally agree!! She makes everything about her and her kids... No one has any problem with her kids. They resent Robin due to Kody. She should blame him, not them.

I have never heard her once say "Janelle's kids don't want to spend Christmas with Kody, myself and my kids." She never includes Kody in it.

I know a big gripe of hers is that her kids were not part of the group or accepted when she came into the family. I don't think she is or was being realistic. You are talking about 13 kids that grew up together and formed bonds since birth. Including Robyn's 3 older kids and making them feel like they are 100% part of the sibling group is going to take time. I think she thought once she married Kody it was going to be all sweet and lovely and perfect. Very unrealistic. I get being upset that your kids don't feel included or part of the group but I think that was the beginning of her filling her kids heads up with crap that the family doesn't like them or they are outsiders, etc. She should've stepped back and used some logic instead of being overly emotional about the whole thing. Also Solomon and Ariella are so much younger than most of the kids. It's hard to form that bond when you are almost 20 and your little brother was just born.

My kids are 23 and 17 and have a 4 year old little sister (by their father). They try their best to be around for their little sister but it is hard and my kids are much closer than they are to the 4 year old. It doesn't mean they don't love her or accept her. It's just a different dynamic.

 

[barkley]

do robyn's younger kids even attend public school? i got the impression that with the covid rules kody put in place that they remained home (or distance) schooling far after their area schools reopened (i kind of remember a reference to 'the nanny' being a tutor). this stuff filmed long after schools reopened but kody was still insisting on covid testing for anyone who came in contact with that household b/c one of the kids had not contracted it so it would'nt surpise me if they are largely isolated on the property away from anyone who would make remarks about the prolonged use of that pacifier.

 

[mom2rtk]

Totally agree!! She makes everything about her and her kids... No one has any problem with her kids. They resent Robin due to Kody. She should blame him, not them.

Are we to believe she EVER looked at those other kids as her kids? You know, like a true sister wife? I do think Janelle and Christine did a great job of that. And Meri to a certain extent. But Robyn never seemed to even want to try. I don't blame her for Kody's shortcomings as a father, but she should have been encouraging him to see his other kids. And, I don't know, maybe BE THERE for his daughter's surgery. That was a huge turning point in that family.

 

[tink2424]

Are we to believe she EVER looked at those other kids as her kids? You know, like a true sister wife? I do think Janelle and Christine did a great job of that. And Meri to a certain extend. But Robyn never seemed to even want to try. I don't blame her for Kody's shortcomings as a father, but she should have been encouraging him to see his other kids. And, I don't know, maybe BE THERE for his daughter's surgery. That was a huge turning point in that family.

Agree... The fact that he missed that surgery is just unforgivable. He absolutely could have made that work by going to be with her and then isolating before returning to Robin. He didn't go out of spite since he thought that they should just wait for the surgery. He didn't care that Isabel was in pain it was more important for him to get what he wanted. This was a very big hint that he would take out his feelings about the wives on the kids.

 

[barkley]

as he was ranting on this week's episode about just wanting to let himself go and be mean and vindictive because of what he perceives as all the wrong doings towards him by the wives/non robyn kids both dh and i were like 'what do you mean let yourself go and be that way-you've been treating meri that way for years'.

 

[Turn the Page]

Are we to believe she EVER looked at those other kids as her kids? You know, like a true sister wife? I do think Janelle and Christine did a great job of that. And Meri to a certain extent. But Robyn never seemed to even want to try. I don't blame her for Kody's shortcomings as a father, but she should have been encouraging him to see his other kids. And, I don't know, maybe BE THERE for his daughter's surgery. That was a huge turning point in that family.

Eh, I don't know if she ever did but I do think she wanted to in the beginning. I don't think she ever got the chance.

Correct me if I'm wrong, it's hard to tell TV time from real time, but I think it was only a couple of months after Robyn joined the family that they ran to Vegas in the middle of the night. She never had a chance to blend into the family (which anyone with any real experience with blended families will tell you usually takes YEARS) before everything hit the fan and they moved to Vegas and cue all the craziness and drama over wet bars and French doors, etc and everything started falling apart.

 

[Claudia1]

Eh, I don't know if she ever did but I do think she wanted to in the beginning. I don't think she ever got the chance.

Did Robyn ever live with the other wives in a house? Or has she always been separate?

Being a sister wife would be totally different in a separate dwelling than learning to co-exist under the same roof, especially for the kids.

 

[Turn the Page]

Did Robyn ever live with the other wives in a house? Or has she always been separate?

Being a sister wife would be totally different in a separate dwelling than learning to co-exist under the same roof, especially for the kids.

I think the only time she lived under the same roof was that first rental house in Vegas where they stayed for a couple weeks until they found something more permanent.

And yes, I agree. I think that was one of the things that caused everything to start coming apart at the seems. They seemed so much more cohesive in the very beginning when they all lived in the one big house. I think there wasn't room for Robyn to have her own apartment so that's why she lived in a rental down the street.

 

[pindecisive]

I think she thought once she married Kody it was going to be all sweet and lovely and perfect.

I think Robyn thought that she would be taken care of for life because so many people worked and pooled their money. I believe she knew going in that she would insist on a separate home, but didn't put together that it would cause such a rift.

 

[barkley]

while i think robyn has been a factor in the issues with the extended family i always feel too much blame has been put on her-

the pre-existing family had major issues prior to her inclusion which were so bad at one point that janelle and her kids left,

the pre-existing family had been uprooted and moved many times for years over the objections of one or more of the wives,

when robyn entered the picture the existing older kids were entering what i think most parents will agree can be some of the challenging parenting (and as a result-coupling) years.


add all of these factors together, mix in kody's paranoia and the great exodus to vegas and yeah-he's going to default to the wife who is still buying into the big, happy, mutualy supporting 'super family' with the priest head being kody. kody was still trying to believe this was their standing despite them living for endless time in separate residences across vegas, then in the houses that while next door to each other were in no way mutual homes.

i think that what has brought all of this to a head so dramaticaly now is-

the majority of the kids are adults, parenting adults is vastly different than parenting little kids. kody neither acknowledges nor respects his adult children's autonomy in making their own decisions (he demands to be the leader of all with no questioning). the kids are questioning and coming to their own conclusions which does not mesh with kody's,

when janelle left years ago it was physically, she did not take any assetts or income with her-she continued to pool money with the remainder of the family so he still had a tether of control. when christine left she (rightfully) demanded her assetts and walked-he has no control over her what so ever. kody is a control freak and to not have control over esp. the woman he has publicly said/written that he feels he did a favor to by marrying has to be driving him bat s--- nuts. that she is living so publicly happy, that 'her' children as well as janelle's are supportive and celebrating of her independance is likely a huge betrayal in his mind.

i think robyn bought into what tlc bought into when the show was pitched-one big happy family co-habitating together, 'love should be multiplied not divided'. i think she has said the same things to kody that all the rest said over the years about settling down and staying in one place (granted-it was where her oldest wanted to go to college), taking a more active part in their younger kid's lives...it's that he has bought into it with her to the exclusion of the remainder of his wives and children (i believe the pandemic compounded it and allowed allot of festering issues to come to the surface and finaly be addressed-issues that predated robyn entirely).

 

[happily single]

I went down an IG rabbit hole last night and someone who is apparently in the know on polygamy said the reason Robin lets her use a pacifier this long is because Kody only likes young kids. Robyn knows Kody discards the kids once they get older and also discards the wives once they stop giving him children. It's called "putting the wife out to pasture." Women fear this happening and go to disturbing lengths to stop it from happening. So she will keep Ariella "young" for as long as she can.

I don't know how true it is but Kody did start discarding his wives once they stopped giving him babies and Robyn could and did.

this is disturbing on a whole new level.

I will saw Ariella is definitely "young" for her age. I still remember the scene from last season when Christine was leaving and Ariella darted out mocking Christine about getting remarried, and immediatley retreated to behind Robyn.

 

[BellaBaby]

I don't think TLC wanted a big happy family. In fact, the show was almost canceled when it turned into a wedding fest of the adult kids getting married. That was boring to most people including me. Lol
Kody begged to keep the show on the air, even agreeing to less compensation. Then it all turned to drama. That certainly didn't help with the family dynamic. And TLC is loving it.

while i think robyn has been a factor in the issues with the extended family i always feel too much blame has been put on her-

the pre-existing family had major issues prior to her inclusion which were so bad at one point that janelle and her kids left,

the pre-existing family had been uprooted and moved many times for years over the objections of one or more of the wives,

when robyn entered the picture the existing older kids were entering what i think most parents will agree can be some of the challenging parenting (and as a result-coupling) years.


add all of these factors together, mix in kody's paranoia and the great exodus to vegas and yeah-he's going to default to the wife who is still buying into the big, happy, mutualy supporting 'super family' with the priest head being kody. kody was still trying to believe this was their standing despite them living for endless time in separate residences across vegas, then in the houses that while next door to each other were in no way mutual homes.

i think that what has brought all of this to a head so dramaticaly now is-

the majority of the kids are adults, parenting adults is vastly different than parenting little kids. kody neither acknowledges nor respects his adult children's autonomy in making their own decisions (he demands to be the leader of all with no questioning). the kids are questioning and coming to their own conclusions which does not mesh with kody's,

when janelle left years ago it was physically, she did not take any assetts or income with her-she continued to pool money with the remainder of the family so he still had a tether of control. when christine left she (rightfully) demanded her assetts and walked-he has no control over her what so ever. kody is a control freak and to not have control over esp. the woman he has publicly said/written that he feels he did a favor to by marrying has to be driving him bat s--- nuts. that she is living so publicly happy, that 'her' children as well as janelle's are supportive and celebrating of her independance is likely a huge betrayal in his mind.

i think robyn bought into what tlc bought into when the show was pitched-one big happy family co-habitating together, 'love should be multiplied not divided'. i think she has said the same things to kody that all the rest said over the years about settling down and staying in one place (granted-it was where her oldest wanted to go to college), taking a more active part in their younger kid's lives...it's that he has bought into it with her to the exclusion of the remainder of his wives and children (i believe the pandemic compounded it and allowed allot of festering issues to come to the surface and finaly be addressed-issues that predated robyn entirely).

 

[barkley]

I don't think TLC wanted a big happy family. In fact, the show was almost canceled when it turned into a wedding fest of the adult kids getting married. That was boring to most people including me. Lol
Kody begged to keep the show on the air, even agreeing to less compensation. Then it all turned to drama. That certainly didn't help with the family dynamic. And TLC is loving it.

maybe i did'nt word it well-

i think tlc bought into what was originaly pitched to them which WAS that this was one big happy family (kody's delusion). tlc knew the potential for disfunction (was banking on it). though a scripted series, hbo's 'big love' had pulled the curtains back on mainstream living polygamists warts and all and was raking in HUGE ratings. having the opportunity to watch it play out in 'real life' (as real as reality tv can be ) was a prize for them when kody was stupid enough to believe he could be the poster boy for it's viability.

kody (and company) were selling what they thought (aspired) for the family dynamic to be, robyn was on the outside looking in at what kody and company were allowing her to see/marketing to tlc. tlc was smart enough to know there were cracks/potential for collapse-robyn to my mind, not so much (i think she had a very narrow viewpoint when the courtship/initial marriage occured).