Single rider lines......

[WickedWench]

I guess I felt that it should be a way for those true single riders to get through and back to their parties a little quicker.

This is where you are wrong. Your party is no more important than any other in disney. It is just a way to fill more seats.

 

[notnothin]

No I am not confused about what a single rider line is at all. I am aware that the system is set up to fill unused seats one at a time. I do however think it is discourteous to use it as a group just to bypass the long standby line. I do not think that was why it was implemented in the first place.

As previously mentioned by snowwite, it was invented for people (singles, groups, etc.) that don't insist on experiencing the ride or attraction together and have no problem being separated. Thus, it is entirely sanctioned for groups to get in the line, as they are perfectly comfortable with the fact that they will most likely be split up. You are indeed confused.

 

[BlindTyldak]

No I am not confused about what a single rider line is at all. I am aware that the system is set up to fill unused seats one at a time. I do however think it is discourteous to use it as a group just to bypass the long standby line. I do not think that was why it was implemented in the first place.

*raises an eyebrow* Sure it is. it was implemented to move people through the queues faster, and one of the best ways to do that is to fill as many empty seats as possible. by allowing ANYONE to go through the single rider line that is fine with sitting alone, they do just that. If you're in a group of 30 and you all get to load two at a time and sitting apart, that's still moving more people through the ride faster, but the group very well might still end up waiting the same amount of time as everyone in the regular line before they are all done.

 

[disney1313131313]

We did the single rider line for TT because the stand by line was 2 hours and the FPs were gone for the day. Our group of 5 (if it matters, we did have 2 non-riders waiting for us) walked right through the line with maybe a 5 minute wait. The "price" for this was that the five of us were split into 3 cars; we just filled the empty spaces from the FP and stand-by lines. I don't see the problem with what we did; we followed the rules and rode where we were told, not together.

 

[Gradar1]

I like the fact that places offer a single rider line. My family rarely uses them, as we enjoy riding together, as I'm sure do most other people. But they are certainly convenient. In my opinion, they are for groups or singles that don't care if they are split up or not. It doesn't matter whether it's one person alone or a group of 20 that doesn't care if they're split. When I visted IOA in 2001, my three friends and I went into the singles line at Spiderman and ended up riding the ride about 12 times in an hour and a half....we were freezing (It was a 50 degree day and we had ridden the Dudley Do-Right ride twice and were soaking wet), and the Spiderman ride was indoors and had a huge (and warm) fireball that we loved, so we just rode it over and over. Maybe that was rude to ride it again and again, but then again, maybe it wasn't. We went into the single line, and occasionally they paired two of us together when there was no party of 2 in the standby line, but we did follow the rules they gave us.

 

[BlindTyldak]

I wouldn't consider it rude at all. You played by the rules, used the line as intended, go for it! It's not like they have a restriction of only using the singles line once a day or anything!

 

[snowwite]

No I am not confused about what a single rider line is at all. I am aware that the system is set up to fill unused seats one at a time. I do however think it is discourteous to use it as a group just to bypass the long standby line. I do not think that was why it was implemented in the first place.

I disagree. It was set up to completely fill seats so that the lines would be shorter. Your point of view does not make sense to me, sorry. I go with my kids. There is 3 of us. I tell them to wait in the shop if they get off first (they are 14 & 17). If we follow the rules and agree to be split then we are single riders and I do not think it is discourteous.I think it is smart.

 

[TLinden16]

I've used the single riders line with friends and family in the past. We don't mind sitting with strangers, and if it would cut down the wait time, I don't see the harm in it. If people were waiting in the single riders line and then insisting on riding together, then it would be a problem.

Did the Rock 'N Roller Coaster ever have a single riders line? I can't remember there ever being one, although it would be nice if they did offer one.

 

[Schmeck]

RnRC has a CM asking for singles, etc, in the queue, I believe.

 

[salmoneous]

I ride as a single often, and don't see any reason why singles should get a shorter wait than non-singles. If the singles line becomes much shorter than the stand-by line, I would expect groups to move over.

 

[salmoneous]

but when you are the only one who rides it is kind of selfish to fastpass something no one else wants to go on. If I fastpass these attractions they all have to wait for my fastpass time to expire before we can fastpass something else.

Is this correct? If one member of a family gets a fastpass for one ride, can't the rest of the family still get fastpasses to something else?

 

[MelanieC]

We did the single rider line for TT because the stand by line was 2 hours and the FPs were gone for the day. Our group of 5 (if it matters, we did have 2 non-riders waiting for us) walked right through the line with maybe a 5 minute wait. The "price" for this was that the five of us were split into 3 cars; we just filled the empty spaces from the FP and stand-by lines. I don't see the problem with what we did; we followed the rules and rode where we were told, not together.

I agree- If my family of 4 would rather wait 5 or 10 minutes for test track and not sit together rather than wait in a 60 minute Standby line then I don't see what the big deal is. It's our right if they have a single rider line (that is meant to fill seats rather than let them go empty) to use it if we don't have a problem not riding in the same car. Actually when we were there last July we would be the only people in the pre-show section for the standby line. I have absolutely no problem doing with this.

 

[LaughinPlace289]

Just my thoughts after my experience this week. I am a single rider for many rides at Disney as my children are small and my Dh gets motion sick. I was upset to learn this trip that most attractions no longer have their single rider lines. The only two which still did were Test track and Everest. Now my experience with those single rider lines was even more frustrating than I thought it would be. Everest was filled with whole families waiting to single ride that just did not feel like waiting in the standby line as it was too long a wait time for them. The same thing was happening at Test track.

I know it is impossible for CM,s to know that these families are together so they let them get in the line but then it clogs up the wait for those true single riders whose other family members are now waiting longer for them to finish. So am I the only one who feels this is cheating the system to use the single rider line when you are not a single rider? I mean I had to prove I had family waiting to get the rider swap card this trip which became a problem more than once when the CM could not see my family through the crowds of ppl waiting outside the attraction. But they felt fine letting whole families through the same line as single riders??

Did they do away with the single rider line on other attractions because of the abuse??? I mean I was told twice at RnR that they no longer had a single rider line and I was the coasters leaving with empty seats instead of them using single riders to fill them. I saw the same thing at Mission Space seats left empty because they have no single rider line anymore.

I don't really think it's cheating the system. The single rider line isn't only for people there by themselves. When whole families step into that line they know that they probably won't end up sitting together on the ride. If that's what they want to do, I don't see anything wrong with it. My family and I have done this many times as we don't have a problem with sitting apart from one another.

 

[tjmw2727]

I guess no it is not an issue unless like me you get stuck behind a party of 15 ppl all going through the single rider line. I stood in the line for 30 minutes and then just gave up and left. There were several other groups in line when I was there. I guess if they are going to be so strict about the rider switch then I think they should be a little stricter with the single rider line and large groups. I know that fastpass is available for ppl to make the wait shorter but when you are the only one who rides it is kind of selfish to fastpass something no one else wants to go on. If I fastpass these attractions they all have to wait for my fastpass time to expire before we can fastpass something else.

Regardless of how you enter a queue, fp, standby or singles you can end up behind a large group. All the single rider line is designed to do is fill up the empty seats, anyone who is willing to sit alone can use it. There is no restriction (and IMHO should not be one) on who uses the single rider line. My dd and I often use it at TT and ride separately. My sil and I used it often when it was just us, at TT and EE and it worked just the way it was designed to. Its designed to fill in empty seats not expediate the lines for a solo.

With regard to FP your getting a FP dosen't at all affect the rest of the party they can still get a FP for something they want to ride. If you want to ride EE for example without making the rest of the party wait, get a FP for EE while they FP or standby ride something else and meet up. This way you don't have to worry about the single rider line and they don't have to wait for you at all.

HTH
TJ

 

[DebbieB]

I just got back. We rode EE on Monday morning and Wednesday night. The standby lines were long. I didn't see more than a handful of people in the single rider line on either occasion.

 

[MyZoeJane]

The purpose of the single rider line is so that when a group does not take up a whole car or row, instead of a seat going empty, they can fill it from the single rider line, thus getting more people through the attraction in less time. It is not a "perk" for single riders to get through faster. Anyone who is willing to ride separate from their party can go through the line, just as a single rider is free to join the other line. "Single" refers to how you are willing to sit in the ride, not who you are waiting in line with.

It isn't too often that someone changes my mind with one, simple sentiment but somehow you've managed. When you put it this way, then everything I wrote in my previous post is how I "used to feel"....

If this indeed is the reasoning behind single rider lines then let the people flock to them!!!

 

[juligrl]

...I guess if they are going to be so strict about the rider switch then I think they should be a little stricter with the single rider line and large groups...

Maybe I'm just not clear on this, but what exactly is a rider switch? Is that anything like child swap? How exactly are they strict with this?

 

[byoung]

Is there some kind of rule against families entering a single rider line? I would think that if they don't mind the fact that they won't end up in the same vehicle, that it wouldn't be an issue.

I agree with you.