Single parent and bathrooms!

[~Tonga Wingo~]

I'm a girl with no kids and have no problems with kids, boys or girls, being in a public restroom with me. I have actually had a little girl peek under my stall at me once. I looked at her and said Hello. She said Hi back and popped back to her own stall. I find no reason to be rude. Woman waiting in line, little girls, they can all peek into the stalls while walking by. If a little boy happened to peek in my stall, I don't think it would be the end of the world. I'd be seated, he wouldn't see much and it would be up to his mother to explain what he saw if he had questions anyway, not me.

I find this thread very odd. We can let our kids watch people being blown up on TV, play violent video games etc and people still get riled up over a little nudity. I'm peeing, for christsakes, nothing sexual about it, and frankly I really don't care who sees me pee. My dog watches me every day so maybe I'm used to it.

 

[jemmouse]

Jemmouse--All I am saying, in a nutshell, is that we can have both things. A parent can bring their child into the restroom with them, and at the same time be respectful of the other people in there and their modesty. Why not have both if it is possible?

I do respect anyone who feels that they need to bring their child into the restroom with them to keep them safe. I also think they should show some respect to the other people in that restroom, and you can do that by taking your child into the stall with you.

Maxiesmom, Sometimes it is best to agree to disagree. By me not bringing my son into my individual stall, you keep pointing out that this behavior is disrespectful to others in the restroom. Why should a boy be any different than a girl? Many moms don't bring their daughters in the stall. I am just so baffled by this. These are all CHILDREN....

When at Disney we go swimming and trust me, my DS sees more there than in any restroom! So why is it ok for some women and young girls who wear short shorts and skimpy swimsuits not respecting him and me as his mom? This is disrespectful also to others who really don't want to see what is being flaunted in our face. It's never going to change and it really doesn't effect me so I really don't bother with it. and there is NO STALL door to separate, it's all wide open. Thankfully the bathroom has that.


Bottom-line I am raising my son, he is going to be in the bathroom or else I need to invent something where I can skip the bathroom all day, I don't know. He is a young boy who trust me doesn't want to be there any more than what it seems you do. But honestly, I really don't care about either sides. He will BE SAFE and that is all I care about....

 

[maxiesmom]

Maxiesmom, Sometimes it is best to agree to disagree. By me not bringing my son into my individual stall, you keep pointing out that this behavior is disrespectful to others in the restroom. Why should a boy be any different than a girl? Many moms don't bring their daughters in the stall. I am just so baffled by this. These are all CHILDREN....

I am saying that by taking your child into the stall with you you are demonstrating that you respect others, and their need for privacy without worry. It is way different for a child of the opposite sex to see you in a state of undress than it is for someone of the same sex. Girls know we have the same parts. Nothing new to see there. Not to mention the things women sometimes have to deal with during certain times of the month.

If you can't respect another persons need for privacy without worry, and don't get how taking your male child into the stall with you, then I am at a loss. It would be easy for you to do, and solve what is a real problem. To me it seems to say to heck with other person's needs, you will do what you want. And if you can't give respect to others, don't expect them to give you any respect back.

 

[GinnyEmma]

As a mom to a DS10, I will do whatever is best for the safety of my child! To all who has issues with a mom bringing a boy into a restroom let me ask you this, " if something happens to that child is your life going to change" NO. But that mothers life and that childs will. I would NEVER want harm to come to any child. Simply mind your own business and get over your insecurities. For goodness sake these are children. Now I am not saying I bring my child into every restroom, because first of all as much as some of you don't want him in there, he doesn't want to be in there either. But if I have one uncomfortable feeling about leaving him outside, then in he comes.

There is no manual to being a parent. We all try our best, you and I might not agree. But I personally will try my hardest not to judge you as I hope the same from you. We both have one goal, to have healthy, good natured children. If it makes you feel safer to bring your child in a bathroom, so be it. There are individual stalls, NO ONE CAN SEE, then there are sinks, correct me if I am wrong but I wash my hands in my kitchen a ton of times in front of my DS friends, so what is the difference in the bathroom, and lastly some put makeup on or comb there hair in mirror in bathroom, that would be just so horrible for a boy to see.

I just find the whole topic absurd. Going to the bathroom takes usually I would say less than 5 minutes, public restrooms in my opinion are usually gross to begin with. Get in there do what you need and get out. If I have to go to the bathroom, I could careless who is there, I just need to go. Wash my hands and out I am. I don't lounge around in there, and I could careless who is in there, I am using the bathroom, not taking a survey....

A ten year old is a pre teen. Either your son is extremely immature or highly embarrassed to have to go with you into the women's room. Because no 10 year old I know would do it.

As a mom with several teen boys, it always amazes me that people treat them like momma's boys and defend it. No wonder they come into college unable to function on their own, and ready to party. The absolutely worse combination out there. It is a guarantee of failure at some point. Boys need to be allowed to grow up, for heaven's sake. The chances of them being assaulted in a crowded well lit disney restroom is minimal. To tell others to get over their insecurities is a bit amusing in this context. You are the one who thinks the boogeyman is around every corner trying to hurt your poor baby. Regardless of the real, as opposed to makebelieve, potential of harm.

tongo, people are allowed to have their own personal comfort zone. Some people are perfecty comfortable with their bodies and would still rather have toileting stuff be private. There isn't anything wrong with that. Let alone if someone has a young girl who is still figuring out her comfortability with her own body. Just because you as an adult have found you comfort zone doesn't mean that the comfort zone of others needs to be the same. People aren't like that.

 

[~Tonga Wingo~]

Never said they weren't allowed to have it or there was anything wrong with it. The OP asked for opinions on this topic. The only one I could give was mine and it was never meant to fit everyone's opinion.

 

[crashbb]

The one that still has me shaking my head is the boy in the women's restroom at MK this January. He had to be around 10.

The think that makes me shake my head is that he was using the stall alone and did not shut the door!

One would think that if his mother was worried enough that she'd bring a 10 year old into the women's washroom, she'd be worried enough to ensure that he wasn't flashing everyone.

 

[livndisney]

The one that still has me shaking my head is the boy in the women's restroom at MK this January. He had to be around 10.

The think that makes me shake my head is that he was using the stall alone and did not shut the door!

One would think that if his mother was worried enough that she'd bring a 10 year old into the women's washroom, she'd be worried enough to ensure that he wasn't flashing everyone.

Doesn't surprise me one bit. According to many on here, personal modesty is a thing of the past.

What always cracks me up is those who feel they NEED to bring their son into the restroom to be safe. Then let them roam the restroom. My DD has been peered at under the door. We have seen a hackysack game going on by the sinks. Then there was the elderly lady who was run over, by the boys playing tag in the ladies restroom. Yep those boys were safe, no one else was, but hey you gotta do what you gotta do to keep YOUR kid safe right?

 

[livndisney]

Ooops, I almost forgot the two 8-10 years old boys peeing on the floor while Mom was in a stall. When she called out asking if they were ok and what they were doing, they both replied "nothing" and continued the aim for distance.


And each and everyone of these events took place at WDW.

 

[GinnyEmma]

I swear I was in a restroom last trip and there were more little boys than little girls in there! I had to laugh. At least none of them were practically teens.

 

[livndisney]

I swear I was in a restroom last trip and there were more little boys than little girls in there! I had to laugh. At least none of them were practically teens.

I have walked into a restroom and turned around and walked back out to check the sign thinking I was in the wrong room with all the boys in the restroom.

 

[jemmouse]

A ten year old is a pre teen. Either your son is extremely immature or highly embarrassed to have to go with you into the women's room. Because no 10 year old I know would do it.

As a mom with several teen boys, it always amazes me that people treat them like momma's boys and defend it. No wonder they come into college unable to function on their own, and ready to party. The absolutely worse combination out there. It is a guarantee of failure at some point. Boys need to be allowed to grow up, for heaven's sake. The chances of them being assaulted in a crowded well lit disney restroom is minimal. To tell others to get over their insecurities is a bit amusing in this context. You are the one who thinks the boogeyman is around every corner trying to hurt your poor baby. Regardless of the real, as opposed to makebelieve, potential of harm.

tongo, people are allowed to have their own personal comfort zone. Some people are perfecty comfortable with their bodies and would still rather have toileting stuff be private. There isn't anything wrong with that. Let alone if someone has a young girl who is still figuring out her comfortability with her own body. Just because you as an adult have found you comfort zone doesn't mean that the comfort zone of others needs to be the same. People aren't like that.

DO NOT EVER and I repeat EVER talk and single out a child and that being mine. It is one thing on here to write your opinion as I have done with a PP but we kept it between the adults and our feelings. How dare you say my son is extremely immature, and then to furthur go on to say he will be unable to function and then be a party boy in college. I was curious when did you get your PhD in Pschycology?? Where is your data coming from, or is it just the vast useless info you have collected in your brain from raising your several boys that makes you the expert on the topic..

So to all the boys moms out there that bring your son in the restroom this person is saying our boys are doomed...

I am NOT only talking about Disney restrooms, I am sorry to say that I dont spend 365 days a year there, I have a life outside of DISNEY. We use restrooms all the time...

I need to get over my insecurities of the BOOGEYMAN, well thank you yet again for your kind words of intelligence. So lets get this straight again where is it you live because it seems that everything is rosy in your neck of the woods and nothing bad happens...I live outside a LARGE city where perhaps you have heard of Lane Bryant shoting, women just shopping on a Saturday were all murdered when the bodies were found they had hoods over their head and were shot execution style. But yep you are right nothing bad happens..these women thought the same as well they just all wanted a new shirt, and wound up losing their lives!!! ANd let me go one step further crime is random, BUT i am going to do my best to not have myself or my son become the next statistic...

I cant even comment any further to you because you have no filter. I have attacked back personally to you, and that was LOWERING my standards as a human being. You are perfectly right to have your own opinion but when you personally come at my child all gloves are off. You generalized him and that is wrong on so many levels. I do hope that your 3 boys are just model citizens.

Lastly, my DH, HAD to go in restrooms with his mom, he is a VP of one of the largest construction companies in the nation, has a Bachelors Degree ALONG with a Masters Degree. Played LaCrosse in college, also worked while there, was in a Fraternity, and get this NEVER got into any trouble.
Your words " Guarantee of failure" hmm, I would have to say my DH did just the opposite..But thanks for the words of wisdom!!!

 

[jemmouse]

And lastly to all the other comments, I also do NOT find it appropriate for boys to be playing hacky sack in the restroom. That wasent right.

To the one about the boy leaving the door open, you know I wasent there but I would think that MAYBE just maybe the boy might of had some type of developmental needs that might be unseen to the naked eye. Just try not to be so quick to judge unless you know for a fact. That is all I am asking.

I just had a thought...i do hope none of you women who are so worried about dignity and modesty,dont ever need to go into the hospital, because I am not sure if you know this BUT they have MALE nurses. And that male nurse mightve been young once who used a womens restroom with mom and now he has to give you a shot in your butt, or wait better yet help you with a sponge bath...

Lighten up everyone...It is so much better in life to share kindness....

 

[crashbb]

To the one about the boy leaving the door open, you know I wasent there but I would think that MAYBE just maybe the boy might of had some type of developmental needs that might be unseen to the naked eye. Just try not to be so quick to judge unless you know for a fact. That is all I am asking.

Then MAYBE, just maybe his mother should not have left him unattended in a women's washroom. As I said, if she was worried enough to bring him into the washroom, then she should have been monitoring him better. Even if, (actually, ESPECIALLY if), he had some sort of developmental need. I cannot think of a single developemental disorder in which it would be in his best interest to be flashing strangers.

Sorry, but claiming that I am being "so quick to judge" is just laugable. Had I said that he shouldn't be in the washroom at all, then I could see your point (whether or not I agreed with it), but in this case I think you are just trying to put me in the wrong for fun.

 

[jemmouse]

Never said they weren't allowed to have it or there was anything wrong with it. The OP asked for opinions on this topic. The only one I could give was mine and it was never meant to fit everyone's opinion.

 

[maxiesmom]

know for a fact. That is all I am asking.

I just had a thought...i do hope none of you women who are so worried about dignity and modesty,dont ever need to go into the hospital, because I am not sure if you know this BUT they have MALE nurses. And that male nurse mightve been young once who used a womens restroom with mom and now he has to give you a shot in your butt, or wait better yet help you with a sponge bath...

/QUOTE]

A trip to the doctor is a need or a choice, or both. I do not need or choose to have anyone's male child see me using the toilet.

Some people are just more modest than others. If you can't respect that, and do what you can to make other people comfortable, then you can't expect them to be accepting of you bringing your male child into a female restroom.

Really, why can't you take your child into the stall with you? If modesty isn't an issue for you, then why not do something just because it might make the people around your more comfortable? Or is this really a case of I will do what I want, the way I want, and to heck with others?

 

[jemmouse]

Then MAYBE, just maybe his mother should not have left him unattended in a women's washroom. As I said, if she was worried enough to bring him into the washroom, then she should have been monitoring him better. Even if, (actually, ESPECIALLY if), he had some sort of developmental need. I cannot think of a single developemental disorder in which it would be in his best interest to be flashing strangers.

Sorry, but claiming that I am being "so quick to judge" is just laugable. Had I said that he shouldn't be in the washroom at all, then I could see your point (whether or not I agreed with it), but in this case I think you are just trying to put me in the wrong for fun.

I am adult enough to know when I am wrong, and I owe you an apology. I must've skimmed over when you said he was left alone in the restroom. My error.

I made a mistake.....

 

[jemmouse]

know for a fact. That is all I am asking.

I just had a thought...i do hope none of you women who are so worried about dignity and modesty,dont ever need to go into the hospital, because I am not sure if you know this BUT they have MALE nurses. And that male nurse mightve been young once who used a womens restroom with mom and now he has to give you a shot in your butt, or wait better yet help you with a sponge bath...

/QUOTE]

A trip to the doctor is a need or a choice, or both. I do not need or choose to have anyone's male child see me using the toilet.

Some people are just more modest than others. If you can't respect that, and do what you can to make other people comfortable, then you can't expect them to be accepting of you bringing your male child into a female restroom.

Really, why can't you take your child into the stall with you? If modesty isn't an issue for you, then why not do something just because it might make the people around your more comfortable? Or is this really a case of I will do what I want, the way I want, and to heck with others?

I wish you wouldve finished up my quotes by what i said next...
"Lighten up everyone.It is so much better in life to share kindness "

My MALE child, you mean my son who is a BOY..I generally equate a MALE to an adult, but again agree to disagree...Again please explain to me how a MALE is seeing you use the toilet??? A toilet is BEHIND a closed door, do you leave it open? I am confused...

You are right, I am not going to take him in a stall unless I as his mother feel it necessary. He is 10, thankfully in my lifetime I have been blessed with non judgemental people in the restrooms who understand my concern as a parent. So YES i will do what i want, when I want to and the heck with others because really you are a stranger to me, and my son and my family are my whole life. If something happened to them I would never forgive myself...you wanted the truth so now flame me...

I am sorry you have issues, but they are yours and others which I have learned on here. But I have also heard from many others who agree with me...

 

[livndisney]

I wish you wouldve finished up my quotes by what i said next...
"Lighten up everyone.It is so much better in life to share kindness "

My MALE child, you mean my son who is a BOY..I generally equate a MALE to an adult, but again agree to disagree...Again please explain to me how a MALE is seeing you use the toilet??? A toilet is BEHIND a closed door, do you leave it open? I am confused...

You are right, I am not going to take him in a stall unless I as his mother feel it necessary. He is 10, thankfully in my lifetime I have been blessed with non judgemental people in the restrooms who understand my concern as a parent. So YES i will do what i want, when I want to and the heck with others because really you are a stranger to me, and my son and my family are my whole life. If something happened to them I would never forgive myself...you wanted the truth so now flame me...

I am sorry you have issues, but they are yours and others which I have learned on here. But I have also heard from many others who agree with me...

But what about my concern as a parent? My child has been leered at by an older boy who thought it was "acceptable" to stick his head under the stall door. If you have a right to keep your child safe, why don't I? How does it make me judgemental because my experience is different that yours? How am I in the wrong because I don't want to see unattended boys peeing on the floor?

I saw this as a general "you" not you personally. But I think in some cases this whole "boys in the ladies room" thing has gone over the top. If the arguement is Mom's are doing it to keep their kids safe, they why aren't they monitoring their children better? Why do they have a right to be safe, but the little old lady who got knocked to the ground didn't?

 

[GinnyEmma]

Girls should be allowed privacy in the restroom and boys shouldn't be emasculated. Lol, down the road girls are going to want guys with their own set, and guys are going to want girls who've been allowed to grow up feeling safe and comfortable in their own skin.

 

[maxiesmom]

All good points. It would seem that this has turned into the same old "I'm a mom so I get to do what I want, and to heck with anyone else's feelings" kind of thing. And what is sad is that there COULD be a compromise where everyone is happy. The mom's can bring their child into the restroom with them AND see to it that the privacy of everyone else in that restroom is protected. But apparently that is too much to ask. Seems to be a very selfish and self-centered way to be.