Since the moderators here have no contact info listed

[lntsmom]

I will address this openly.

I do not feel any need to convince anyone here that my post about gaydays was not, in fact homophobic. The responses on the first page alone are why I have rarely posted on the boards here in the past. Rather than responding to the question many of you chose to post holier-than-thou judgemental flames.

There is an article elsewhere on this site, written by a gay man, about his dismay over the behavior he has witnessed at gaydays. The information in this article was confirmed by my friends, who had seen exactly what he describes. The suggestion for families to use the gaydays schedule to plan to be in other parks came from another gay poster.

I do not appreciate the moderators here closing that thread, leaving me with no chance to respond.

Moderators: please feel free to delete my name and profile at your will. I would appreciate it if you would also delete the entire thread rather than locking it.

 

[ehstrojette]

I hope you dont leave the boards because of a few people voicing their opinions.. it is their opinions and theres alone. Dont worry about hurting peoples feeling or having people not understand you that is life and sometimes you do things you dont mean to do. I have and so has everyone on the boards.

As for mods closing the thread... I run a forum and yes you have to close things before it gets out of hand and more feelings get hurt. It is done so the thread goes away and not keep getting bumped up so more and more people read it and respond. Think about all the new people just posting or thinking about posting and read the fighting going on within the boards.. I wouldn;t want to be part of a board that allowes that kind of fighting.
Pm's are the way to go instead of openly chastizing(sp) someone for what they believe in no matter if you agree with it or not.. all of us not just you.

Please just let this problem die. You have the answers you need and I for one are gonna be there the same week. My days at the park are different from theirs. I will share with you my days if you would like.

All the best and may your Visit to WDW be magical!!!!!!!!

 

[Beth E. (NJ)]

I'm sorry if you took offense to my closing the thread. It had run it's course and any other conversation would have been adding fuel to already heated fire. I realy didn't do it to upset you or to chastize you.

You can get in touch with the moderators by sending them a private message. Or reporting the post (which a number of folks did in this case.) I would have sent you a private message, but I don't think you have set up at this time.

As ehstrojette said many times posts get closed on the different boards because thing go off course. Don't let that dissuade you from posting. I can certainly delete the thread if you would like.

 

[bumbershoot]

You said you couldn't find info on that site. Here: http://www.gaydays.com/calendar/

You'll be gone before the WDW part of it starts.

I think the issue is that when someone doesn't want to see PDAs between gay people, but doesn't make special efforts to avoid PDAs between straight people, that sort of thing can lead to others having a feeling that there's some phobia there. And I've read posts from people who do not experience the sort of thing that you have focused on reading.

But really, just clicking on "calendar" could have saved all the trouble! Hope that link helps!

 

[roliepolieoliefan]

OP, please PM me.

I couldn't PM you or I would have.

I'd like to tell me my less than wonderful experience with Gay Days last June and why we will never visit this time of the year again!

 

[sha_lyn]

Since the moderators here have no contact info listed

That is untrue... all you have to do is click on a moderators name and you can send them a PM.

There is an article elsewhere on this site, written by a gay man, about his dismay over the behavior he has witnessed at gaydays. The information in this article was confirmed by my friends, who had seen exactly what he describes. The suggestion for families to use the gaydays schedule to plan to be in other parks came from another gay poster.

That man would be the owner of this site

 

[teresajoy]

That man would be the owner of this site

Pete's gay?

 

[soonerlpn]

I dont want to see PDA from ANYONE..period..and Im 32. I think the other thread got the way it did because of the way the OP put it out there. It appears that there is no problem with PDA from straight people only gay people..and that my friend is discriminatory. So that is where the problem lies. I am sure that most children dont even notice unless the parents or adults they are with draw attention to it. If it is that serious can you not adjust your days? That way you wont run the *risk* of being there during Gay Days.

 

[sha_lyn]

Pete's gay?

Yes

here's the article with his name right at the top
http://www.wdwinfo.com/disney-gay-days.htm


Note that Pete says most of the behavior was at MK on the Sat during Gay days.

I can't help but to LOL at this whole thing. Before Pete's negative experience, not one negative thing could be said about Gay Days.
I think the mods were trying to be "proactive" on Pete's behalf but it actually led me to leaving the DIS for a yr.

it must have been right after gay days 2000. someone posted something negative about their experience at Gay Days (which IMHO was a homophobic post). Everyone jumped on the poster.
Then there were a few posters who were "glad" for the heads up to avoid them in the future. Those posters were jumped on also.

That same week was the Gay Pride festival in Atlanta. The media gave a very negative portrayal of the event. I came on here and basically said that if someone only exposure to Gay gatherings was the media coverage of events such as the Festival, I could understand their wanting to avoid WDW during Gay Days. The Atlanta media coverage made the festival look like Girls gone wild in New Orleans during Mardi Gras.
My post was removed for being inflammatory and I was warned to not post such things again. I didn't post for almost a yr.

 

[two-foxes]

Good lord! Let the OP go and, OP, let it go!!!! OP, you got the links you needed...you know you hit a hot topic here, so if you have the info you need, make your plans as you see fit. It is your vacation, your money, your family and your time. Go when you want and have a GREAT TIME!!!! But, leave the issue go. The bad thing about written messages is that there is no tone involved, no immediate ability to respond as in verbal conversation and you will have those jump on everything and anything because they can. And as more post, the bandwagon moves along and more and more jump on.....Lets not rehash that other insane mean thread and MOVE ON!!!

 

[eeyoremum]

Wow I just read the article by Pete. I am relatively new so don't really know who he is. I really appreciate his honesty as a gay man. He could have lied and said it was gay families that bring their children that week for some Disney fun. He didn't he gave an honest review from his point of view.

Why do I appreciate this? Well I travel with my children and my parents. I am in my mid 30s, growing up saying gay was funny, we would giggle but not really understand My children are growing up in a generation that is open to gays they understand the meaning and are cool. My parents are older, their generation say homosexuality as a crime plain and simple. Sorry but that is the truth. My father also does not know when to shut up about something and his is not quiet. If I can avoid these particular days then great.

I find it fustrating if any couple feel the need to show over the top PDA. I think we have all seen the honeymooning couples that need to go back to their rooms.

 

[PrinceAndPrincessQ]

I had read Pete's 'report' a while back, before even joining this site. It was his point of view, which I happen to respect.

As for someone being 'homophobic'...that term seems to be very over used. In most cases, I dont see a homophobic comment, I simply see someone not agreeing with the lifestyle. And in some ways this 'title' is used as more of a way of getting even with someone, than anything else. (calling names is inappropriate in case anyone didnt know, hehe)

Truth is...I belong to many sites, and have for a few years, people will always disagree with you, try to label you, or attack you on another level. ( Trust me, I am a professional on both ends )
Always stay true to your religion and to yourself, yet in doing so NEVER confuse not liking a lifestyle to not liking a human being.

 

[DevilDuckie]

Good lord! Let the OP go and, OP, let it go!!!! OP, you got the links you needed...you know you hit a hot topic here, so if you have the info you need, make your plans as you see fit. It is your vacation, your money, your family and your time. Go when you want and have a GREAT TIME!!!! But, leave the issue go. The bad thing about written messages is that there is no tone involved, no immediate ability to respond as in verbal conversation and you will have those jump on everything and anything because they can. And as more post, the bandwagon moves along and more and more jump on.....Lets not rehash that other insane mean thread and MOVE ON!!!

I think I love you.

 

[glass slipper girl]

I've read Pete's article and have been in the MK on it's "day" for Gay Days before and honestly my experience was very different. We saw handholding and a few "peck" type kisses but that was it and honestly we've seen that between gay or lesbian couples on other non-Gay Days week trips as well so it was no big deal. We did see a boat full of men on IASW who all had on tinkerbell tee shirts with many of them wearing Tink hats all singing along and generally acting silly. My husband said it was the "gay sterotype" sailing...like a boat full of Jack McFarland's (the Will and Grace character). They were not acting vulgar in any way, just silly. One of my sons asked why they were being so loud but that was a "they are just being silly and having fun" kind of answer.

Our experience was that it wasn't a big deal at all. I see more inappropriate behavior from heterosexual teens on each trip than I did from the gay or lesbian couples that day. It wasn't anything I felt the need to keep my children from at all. I've heard it can get a little crazy at PLeasure Island that night but I wouldn't have my kids there anyway. I've also heard that the pool parties at the group hotels can be a bit wild but those are not Disney resorts. If you are staying on site, you'll be fine at your resort.

If it is going to make you or your family uncomfortable then either plan to be at a different park that day or shift your trip dates a bit but I just wanted to post a different opinion from Pete's. My trip was the year before the article was written. I didn't see your original post but if you do just plan for a different park, I think you would be fine.

 

[hoosiergirl7]

Thanks to the poster that provided the link to Pete's article. It was a good article. I have to say that every year SETP (Society of Experimental Test Pilots) has their convention at Disneyland in May which coincides with gaydays there. We're in the military and have lots of friends who are Test Pilots who attend. Some took their families along and were just horrified at the outfits, touching, lewd t-shirts and very open sexual discussions. When your 6 yr old asks something about a very sexually explicit statement heard at Disneyland it's not a good sign. Many of these friends will not take their kids with them again during this time which is sad.

When the OP posted her original thread I told her that it's OK to have her reasons. That is a right she is entitled to whether you agree with it or not.

I have 2 very close friends who are gay (not together as a couple) and they are not open about their sexuality. It was very hard for them to tell their friends. You would not know by speaking to them that they are gay. And the only places you'll see them be open is in a gay bar or with their friends.

Everyone should have the right to think or feel the way they do. I don't feel I have the power to judge anyone - that's up to the man upstairs. However, I feel that it's right to respect EVERYONE even if you don't share the same opinions.

 

[Ilovemyprincesses]

We have been over and over this and it always turns ugly. That is why the threads get closed.