Sibling Policy at School

when my ds14 was younger I helped in his class all the time and graded papers/tests and even helped the teachers do reading assignments with the kids..this IS a common practice even if the teachers dont tell you...sometimes they just dont have enough hands.....at least it is common here.We also do not have a no sibling rule,if we did I would not be able to attend school funtions because we do not have anyone to babysit...all my mom friends work and family lives out of town but my dd knows how to behave herself and has never caused a problem.

It's common practice where you are, but not in the region where I live, or the PP you quoted! Class parents are tolerated, at best, and after 3rd grade, they just drop off the goodies (paid for by themselves). Parents are not allowed on the playground during recess, and if you need to bring something to your child, you will be buzzed in, and you leave the item at the office. I can't even imagine the uproar if it was learned that a parent graded papers! I can picture the mob of angry deperate housewives! :lmao:
 
We do not have a no sibling rule except for field trips. Everything else, is okay. I know there are always a bunch of little kids running around at the parties and the plays, etc.

We also are allowed to have lunch with our child any day we may want. A lot of parents, if they are in the area, drop in and have lunch with their student. We also can stay for recess if we choose.

Our school has a HUGE volunteer community and parents flow through the school (properly signed in of course) all day long.
 
I t is a legal issue. School liability policies usually do not include non-student children on school grounds during the school day.
 
I t is a legal issue. School liability policies usually do not include non-student children on school grounds during the school day.

While this may be true in some cases, most states protect public schools from suits of this nature.
 

OP, you're thinking ONLY of yourself. Let's say there are 24 kids in your DD's class, and ALL of the mommies & daddies attend and bring 1 or 2 younger siblings to this little Valentine's Day performance.

That means there could be 24-48 adults, and 24-48 infants/toddlers. There's a possibility for almost 100 visitors!

Don't you think that's a little ridiculous?

And what about GRANDPARENTS?!?! Now we're up to 150.

I've been teaching for over 20 years, and it's always been amazing to me how every mommy thinks she's the ONLY mommy who struggles with these issues.

The school policy is in place for a reason. Get a sitter, stop your whining and go see your daughter's performance.
 
I don't correct papers, but every Tuesday I stuff al of their work into a Tuesday folder to go home to the parents. It has all of their graded work. I wouldn't worry about it too much. They probably don't even pay attention to the names on the paper and they may not even know the names and faces of the kids in the class. I know I don't. Last year I was actually in the teachers office doing this, and I could tell you maybe 3 or 4 or the kids names in that class. Same this year.

It is a common practice at out school for these folders to be stuffed by the parents, no teachers do them, only the parents.
I have done this job, too, but here it's Friday folders. :) I don't look at the grades, either. The job easily takes half an hour or more only looking at names, I can't imagine any parent wanted to extend it by taking mental notes of who got what grade. :rotfl:

At my kids schools, each volunteer is required to read and sign a confidentiality agreement before being allowed to work in the classroom. I've only graded papers a few times, and I don't pay much attention to the name on the paper as I'm grading it, I'm just checking the answers. Honestly, I learn more about the other kids' abilities by doing reading or math centers with them. But volunteers are held to the same standards as school employees. Some have been "fired" for discussing confidential matters with those they shouldn't.


Well there is the problem. In our school being a room mom has nothing to do with field trips at all.
Room moms were responsible for getting class parties together and asking for donations, a thankless job and really no one here wants it. WE have one mom that does it all the time, she is good at it.

For field trips they have an alloted number of spots available for parents. If the number of parent requests exceed the number of alloted spots then they draw names. I personally hate filed trips and would rather have a root canal than sit on a bus with all those kids. But I will help in the class when the teacher asks.
::yes:: this is how it's done here. Room mom plans the parties and coordinates supplies/food for them. She usually collects for a teacher gift at Christmastime. She coordinates the room gift basket for the annual auction fundraiser, and finds volunteers to help at parties and to work whatever game or station is set up in the room at the annual school carnival. Basically, she handles the "extra" stuff. Fun stuff and fundraisers.

The teacher is the one who coordinates classroom volunteers, those that help with centers, reading groups, grading papers, Friday folders, field trips, special projects, etc, anything that relates to learning.

Sadly yes! And also that they can't be walking around yacking on their cell phones, bringing coffee and walking around with the cup, can't be buying only their child or their child's group snacks, treats or extras at the sight -like taking your child and group on the train at the Zoo-,Can't have grandma come with the siblings and meet there and ignore the other kids in your group, AND they had to be told you have to talk and interact and help ALL the children in your group not just your own child.

It got so bad with this current generation of Moms that it had to go out in writing before all trips.
Ug. Tell me about it. I went on my dd's field trip to the zoo in kindergarten. This one loud-mouthed mom who never shuts her mouth is yakking away while the teachers are giving us volunteers our instructions, so naturally, she doesn't hear them say "don't buy anything for the kids in your group, no snacks, no train rides, no toys..." So, what does she do? Their group rides the train, the carousel, and they get ice cream. And, surprise, surprise, they also don't get their "scavenger hunt" worksheets completed because they ran out of time to do what we actually came to the zoo to do!

Then on the bus ride back while her group is bragging about it (because you know that no matter how many times you tell a kindergartener to keep it quiet, they WILL tell!:laughing:) and other parents tell her she wasn't supposed to do that, she answers "What? They never said that! When did they say that?" :headache: The look on her face was hysterical when someone responded "When she gave us our instructions before getting off the bus. You know, when you were talking to so-and-so." :rotfl:
 
OP, you're thinking ONLY of yourself. Let's say there are 24 kids in your DD's class, and ALL of the mommies & daddies attend and bring 1 or 2 younger siblings to this little Valentine's Day performance.

That means there could be 24-48 adults, and 24-48 infants/toddlers. There's a possibility for almost 100 visitors!

Don't you think that's a little ridiculous?

And what about GRANDPARENTS?!?! Now we're up to 150.

I've been teaching for over 20 years, and it's always been amazing to me how every mommy thinks she's the ONLY mommy who struggles with these issues.

The school policy is in place for a reason. Get a sitter, stop your whining and go see your daughter's performance.

I live in the same school district as the OP. This must be her school. As far as bringing them into a classroom no. But for a performance, no problem. People bring in siblings. So I don't think she is whining. I am happy that our school doesn't seem to have your attitude about it, It was a little snippy to me.
 
I have done this job, too, but here it's Friday folders. :) I don't look at the grades, either. The job easily takes half an hour or more only looking at names, I can't imagine any parent wanted to extend it by taking mental notes of who got what grade. :rotfl:

At my kids schools, each volunteer is required to read and sign a confidentiality agreement before being allowed to work in the classroom. I've only graded papers a few times, and I don't pay much attention to the name on the paper as I'm grading it, I'm just checking the answers. Honestly, I learn more about the other kids' abilities by doing reading or math centers with them. But volunteers are held to the same standards as school employees. Some have been "fired" for discussing confidential matters with those they shouldn't.

I'm not sure why you can't imagine parents noticing such things, when you then say parents have been fired for noticing AND discussing them. :confused3

My daughter's elementary school didn't have a no siblings policy for performances, but I wish they had. At the end of the year talent show, a woman sat in front of us with her own two preschool kids and the three preschool kids she was babysitting, and they were bored and noisy! I thought it was awfully selfish toward not only the kids performing, but the family members trying to watch and hear (and the kids she was sitting, for that matter, since they were obviously bored). In fact, many parents and grandparents had to stand due to lack of seating - but luckily those babysat kids who couldn't care less had good seats! :rolleyes:
 
I'm not sure why you can't imagine parents noticing such things, when you then say parents have been fired for noticing AND discussing them. :confused3

My daughter's elementary school didn't have a no siblings policy for performances, but I wish they had. At the end of the year talent show, a woman sat in front of us with her own two preschool kids and the three preschool kids she was babysitting, and they were bored and noisy! I thought it was awfully selfish toward not only the kids performing, but the family members trying to watch and hear (and the kids she was sitting, for that matter, since they were obviously bored). In fact, many parents and grandparents had to stand due to lack of seating - but luckily those babysat kids who couldn't care less had good seats! :rolleyes:

You will always have people that know things they shouldn't. I look at names but not grades, all I want is to get out of there. IF a parent is helping with reading or math, then sure the parent probably knows something. But stuffing folders, nope, you just look at names and make sure they are in the right spot.
 
I'm not sure why you can't imagine parents noticing such things, when you then say parents have been fired for noticing AND discussing them. :confused3:
You seem to have skipped over the part where I said I learn more about a students abilities by working directedly with them in groups. IME, it's much harder to avoid noticing a child's abilities when you are interacting directly with them, than when you are grading papers or placing them in folders.

I mentioned this due to the concern some parents on this thread had about volunteers grading papers, and was just trying to let them know that it's no different from other volunteer work in the classroom.
 
OP, you're thinking ONLY of yourself. Let's say there are 24 kids in your DD's class, and ALL of the mommies & daddies attend and bring 1 or 2 younger siblings to this little Valentine's Day performance.

That means there could be 24-48 adults, and 24-48 infants/toddlers. There's a possibility for almost 100 visitors!

Don't you think that's a little ridiculous?

And what about GRANDPARENTS?!?! Now we're up to 150.

I've been teaching for over 20 years, and it's always been amazing to me how every mommy thinks she's the ONLY mommy who struggles with these issues.

The school policy is in place for a reason. Get a sitter, stop your whining and go see your daughter's performance.

That's a little extreme, don't you think? :rolleyes: First of all, there are more like 18 kids in the class. Probably most of them don't even have younger siblings, and those who do, probably a lot are in preschool. As for grandparents, I don't think it's the type of event they would normally attend, but if it was, why should they get preference over brothers and sisters if it were truly a "space" issue?

Of course, I'm not the only one who "struggles with these issues", but I posted because I was curious to know if this is the norm or not for schools to have a no-sibling policy.

I'm not able to get a sitter, so I guess I'll "stop my whining" and decide if DH or I gets to go...and yes, I'm disappointed that one of us has to miss out.

I live in the same school district as the OP. This must be her school. As far as bringing them into a classroom no. But for a performance, no problem. People bring in siblings. So I don't think she is whining. I am happy that our school doesn't seem to have your attitude about it, It was a little snippy to me.

So I guess this is a school policy and not a county one. Thanks for the information - glad you guys don't have this issue! (This is PVPV, by the way).
 
I would probably ignore the rule and force them to send me home - but I'm a rebel. :lmao:

Yep! Do it and play dumb!

There was a family in DD7's Kinder class that brought ALL their other children on the field trips (3 other kids and grandparents). I complained once and was told that "some times things come up and not to let it bother me". Do it and see what happens claim "something came up".
 
You seem to have skipped over the part where I said I learn more about a students abilities by working directedly with them in groups. IME, it's much harder to avoid noticing a child's abilities when you are interacting directly with them, than when you are grading papers or placing them in folders.

I mentioned this due to the concern some parents on this thread had about volunteers grading papers, and was just trying to let them know that it's no different from other volunteer work in the classroom.

Either way, your post shows that parents working in the classroom do learn things about students that aren't really any of their business, and they do gossip about them. I'm glad my DD's school didn't need to rely on parent volunteers for such things.
 
I don't understand why you can't get a sitter for your younger child?


Is it that you have looked for a sitter and can't find one or is it that you dont want to leave them with a sitter?
 
When ds was in kindergarten, I was co-room mom. The other mother would bring her other two children with her to the classroom at least twice a week. The siblings were three and one. Needless to say, they wreaked havoc every time. She would change diapers on the desks and let the three year old girl bully her way into doing all the activities. She also was a nasty gossip, and would gossip with other volunteers about some of the other children.

I approached the teacher with my concerns, but she was a first year teacher AND pregnant, so I think she didn't want confrontation. I eventually stopped participating as much because it was just an unhappy, stressful environment.

It's great that parents want to participate, but they have to realize the burden bringing the siblings is to the teachers and other volunteers. Find a babysitter, plain and simple. It's not personal against you.
 
I don't understand why you can't get a sitter for your younger child?


Is it that you have looked for a sitter and can't find one or is it that you dont want to leave them with a sitter?

Ok, really? It's amazing to me how this thread has gone so sour. It really doesn't need to get this personal. The Previous Poster stated that she was not able to get a sitter, let's let it go. We don't know her financial situation, nor any other personal situations she may have. I personally have never had to hire a sitter, so I for one wouldn't know where to even begin. And I wouldn't feel comfortable leaving my child with someone who I don't know from an agency if I didn't already know someone using them. So for me, DH and I would need to make a decision about who goes if none of our family was available.

Editing to add: Maybe I am reading too much into the quoted post. If I am, apologies. It just seems that the tone of this thread is getting murky.
 
It wasnt personal. I wanted to understand the sitter issue. It's just that if someone is against a school policy and so upset about it they can make a choice. If they CANT find a babysitter than that is one thing and that stinks but if they CHOOSE not to use one that is their choice and its not that it's not an option....it's a choice they made and there are consequences to that choice.

Thats a choice you made. And personally, I cant figure out what so many people have against sitters. I feel like babysitters have gotten such a bad rep.

I really do feel bad for the parents who try to find a babysitter and who can't. I HATE saying no for that reason but I have 4 families I sit for and unfortunately some of the events overlap. Heck, I've watched 7 kids at once from 2 families because their parents were all going to the same event and couldn't find another sitter. During the holidays, end of the year events and summers I am booked at least weeks in advance because so much overlaps. But for the parents who dont WANT a baysitter and wont hire one, that is a different story. They made that choice.
 
Okay....for some reason I cant edit my last post.

I didnt mean for my first post OR my last post to come off as snarky. I was getting defensive to the post that quoted mine.

I was genuinely curious about the sitter situation. I am ALSO very curious about why people dont want to hire sitters. Maybe it's because I am a babysitter who at 21 has 10 years experience plus experience at preschool and daycare so I hear so much about parents who dont trust sitters, etc and it just bugs me.

I really did not mean for it to sound snarky and I do apologize. It didnt sound that way in my head but of course on a message board it is different ann di didnt mean it.
 
Maybe it is that sitters are expensive. Around here one won't even come for less than $10/hr. Sorry ~ I can't afford to pay a sitter that much so I can go volunteer at my DD's school.
 


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