Should I switch to deluxe plan?

tnelson1112

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This is our first WDW trip and I am overwelmed. We have so many ADR's booked that I am wondering if we should pay out of pocket for some or switch to the deluxe plan.
It will be 3 adults and 2 children and here are my ADR's: (son age 21, daughters age 5 & 6)

Wed 1900 Park Fare

Thurs Sci-Fi lunch
50's Prime Time dinner

Friday CRT

Sat California Grill (2 adults only)

Sun Ohana

Mon Akershus breakfast
Hoop Dee Doo dinner

Any advice on what I should do? Thank you so much!!
 
This is our first WDW trip and I am overwelmed. We have so many ADR's booked that I am wondering if we should pay out of pocket for some or switch to the deluxe plan.
It will be 3 adults and 2 children and here are my ADR's: (son age 21, daughters age 5 & 6)

Wed 1900 Park Fare

Thurs Sci-Fi lunch
50's Prime Time dinner

Friday CRT

Sat California Grill (2 adults only)

Sun Ohana

Mon Akershus breakfast
Hoop Dee Doo dinner

Any advice on what I should do? Thank you so much!!

You're staying 5 nights? Are you getting free dining, or paying for the dining plan?
Between having 2 "children," and with having several character meals, it makes the math a bit harder to estimate.
You could actually be best off strictly OOP, or on the DDP, or on the DxDP.
But with 5 fixed price meals, you are probably well off with a dining plan.
If you plan lots of snacking in addition, or are willing to add 1-2 more TS meals, then you can probably save pretty significantly on the DxDP.
You should also consider how you eat.
For example, the pricing of the dining plans assumes that the 2 adults will "spend" $70-$80 each at California Grill. But myself and my wife just spent $65 -- between the 2 of us, at a signature restaurant. Of course, at fixed price meals, it doesn't matter how you eat, you get charged the same no matter what.

Unfortunately, you really need to crunch the numbers to be sure. But children's pricing saves pretty significantly on character meals.
 
You only have 3 meals where the price is likely to vary, this makes the math easier to calculate (once you get all the data, which can be trickier). Head to AllEars.net to find the prices of the menus, use the lower numbers for the meal when calculating savings on the plan(s) (it's better to underestimate savings than over ;)).

From a gut reaction, with the huge increase in price for next year's DxDDP, you're going to want to use at least 90+% of your credits to come out ahead. If the trip is 5 nights, this means you get 15 credits per person, and I wouldn't recommend spending under 14. (Keep in mind, I haven't done any math on this part, just going with my gut). Right now, you're using 11 (9 for the 2 little ones). With that current schedule, I could not see recommending DxDDP at all.

The DDP aspect, with the large amount of 2TS locations you have, it'll make it very close. A lot will depend on what meals your doing for some of those (e.g. Ohana, 1900 PF, CRT). The same math can be applied here as it is for DxDDP above. My gut, again, is telling me that it's too close to call and I'd err on the side of caution by going OOP rather than DDP. But, running the numbers here will be even more useful than above as it's likely pretty close.

Now, both of those are considering paying for the plans rather than falling under a free dining promotion. If there is a dining promotion for your dates, and you qualify, I'd look into that discount vs. any room-only discount (which is really a misnomer, as most room-only discounts can be applied to packages) and see where you're likely to save more. If staying at a value or moderate, with 5 people, again, the gut slants toward the dining plan promotion, especially with the itinerary that you've laid out.

Also, don't get caught up with a common misconception that just because a meal costs a high amount, that it's a good value on the DDP (at least, with the 2TS locations). Let's look at a CRT breakfast for example. The adult cost is ~$52 and the child will cost ~$33.50. Combined, 3 adults, 2 children, this would be ~$223. Wow, that's huge for breakfast huh? Breaking it down though, for the adults, you are getting ~$26 worth of value per credit. This number is actually less than the credit cost you to purchase (for 2013, it's along the lines of $33-35 per TS credit, if I remember correctly). As such, for the adults, they are actually losing money by using credits here and paying OOP elsewhere (well, theoretically, it depends on where else they are going of course). Basically, if any 2 single TS meals combined are going to cost more than a single 2TS meal, it'll be better to pay OOP for the 2TS, even if it's a higher total!

Note that the kids' credits here are a little different. For the kids, each credit is getting them ~$16.75 worth of value. This is almost the nightly cost of the kids' plan! From a purely numbers standpoint, you'd get the best value paying OOP for the adults at this meal, and DDP for the kids (not taking anything else into consideration, e.g. other meals).

Lastly, this is also your first time and you're going to want to see and do as much as possible. Dining at Disney can take anywhere from 60-90 minutes for the meal alone, not counting travel (each way) and wait time (after you check-in, before you are seated). Travel can take between 30-60 minutes, depending on where you're going to and where you're coming from. The wait times average around 20 minutes, but some can get longer ('Ohana and Crystal Palace are both notorious for this). I wouldn't suggest adding to your itinerary any more, which basically excludes the DxDDP for your case. If you fall under a free dining plan promotion, it may change the math a bit, as you can be much looser with the offerings since it's sizable discount on the overall plans (basically, spending ~$40 per night on food vs ~$100 per adult (Free DDP plus DxDDP upgrade, vs DxDDP base)).
 
Thanks for the advice! We are staying 6 nights. Do you think it would help if I cancel ADR at Ohana's or any other suggestions for changes in my ADR's?
 

Thanks for the advice! We are staying 6 nights. Do you think it would help if I cancel ADR at Ohana's or any other suggestions for changes in my ADR's?

I've never been to Ohana, but the sound of it doesn't appeal to me.
So it really becomes subjective.
Personally, I don't like the fixed price meals. If it's a first trip to Disney, it is nice to do 1 or 2 character meals, but you don't need to go over the top. (It's not that hard to meet characters in the parks). I wouldn't do 3 princess meals if I were you. By the last one, your daughters may be like, "Grrrr, do I really need to pose with Cinderella AGAIN???" The more often you do it, it begins to lose the magic. So I might stick to CRT and get rid of the other 2 Princess meals.

Overall, you can dine fairly affordably at the regular ala carte restaurants. Though it depends how you order. If every member of the family wants the most expensive entree and wants an individual dessert, the dining plans are a good value.
But for example -- For my family of 4, we rarely order more than 3 entrees. My DW and DD often share an entree. Sometimes I order an appetizer for myself, and then share an entree with DW. I rarely order the most expensive item on the menu. And most of the time, I don't order an individual dessert. Eating in this way, it is much much cheaper to skip any dining plan.

With the fixed price meals, you're paying $35-$40+... while the meal that you actually want might really be $20-$30.

For other people, the $35-$40+ meals can be a great value, because the "all you can eat" is something they really take advantage of.
 
If you've never eaten at 'Ohana, you should keep the reservation and go. It's got good food and is an "experience".

If you are thinking of upgrading to DxDP, you're going to have to make a LOT more table service reservations to make it economically viable for you. Generally, you'll want to use all three credits per person per day. That means, if you're only planning on having 2 meals a day, to have one be a signature (2 credit) restaurant. If you're planning on 3 meals a day, you have to be a very heavy eater, or you'll have to eat light at every meal. Generally, I don't suggest trying 3 table service meals a day. It's very time consuming.
 


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