Should I do anything more than this?

[ManMythLegend]

Not being argumentative, but does that apply to teachers as well? Coaches? Does no one have the right to correct your child's bad behavior but you? What if your kid is playing with matches? Walking in the street? Smoking? Those are things you might never know they are doing, so how would you even know to talk to them?

I would absolutely address the behavior in my car as it is happening. Now, I would probably end up making a ridiculous comparison about not killing a mockingbird and get laughed at, but I would certainly address it then and there and help them understand how very hurtful their actions can be. I take it as a serious responsibility when other parents put their children in my care, just as I would hope and pray that they realize the responsibility of having my children with them as well.

Teachers would only yell at a student for being disrespectful and I don't have an issue with that. My kids would be the ones to decide to play sports and know that occasionally a coach is going to get angry with them so they know what they're getting into.

And I already said in another post that there are times when it is necessary to step in (fighting, stealing, being disrespectful, etc.) If your stepping is saving my child from direct harm then of course I would want you to do that. Prank calls don't fall in that category and most things wouldn't fall into that category.

Let me pose this question: Suppose you and I are chaperoning a field trip and we get put in charge of a group of 6. One of those 6 students is your child and one is mine. My child decides to prank call someone and you and I both hear it. I decide I don't care and I let it go. Would you correct my child?

 

[Magpie]

Teachers would only yell at a student for being disrespectful and I don't have an issue with that. My kids would be the ones to decide to play sports and know that occasionally a coach is going to get angry with them so they know what they're getting into.

And I already said in another post that there are times when it is necessary to step in (fighting, stealing, being disrespectful, etc.) If your stepping is saving my child from direct harm then of course I would want you to do that. Prank calls don't fall in that category and most things wouldn't fall into that category.

Let me pose this question: Suppose you and I are chaperoning a field trip and we get put in charge of a group of 6. One of those 6 students is your child and one is mine. My child decides to prank call someone and you and I both hear it. I decide I don't care and I let it go. Would you correct my child?

Yes, I would say something to your child. Same as I would say something to you, if it was you making the prank call.

Let's try another analogy. Suppose you and I are chaperoning a field trip and we get put in charge of a group of 6. One of those 6 students is your child and one is mine. My child decides to call another student the "N word" and you and I both hear it. I decide I don't care and I let it go. Would you correct my child?

Frankly, I hope you would!

Maintaining a civil society means all members of society care and work together. We don't turn a blind eye to misbehavior, whether it's by a child or an adult. Prank calling someone you don't like is cruel. If you don't like a person, ignore them. Don't tease them. It's important to teach all our children this lesson, and teach them not to turn a blind eye to bullying, cruelty or prejudice whenever we see or hear it.

And the ONLY way we can teach our children to stand up for what's right, is by modeling it for them.

 

[ManMythLegend]

Yes, I would say something to your child. Same as I would say something to you, if it was you making the prank call.

Let's try another analogy. Suppose you and I are chaperoning a field trip and we get put in charge of a group of 6. One of those 6 students is your child and one is mine. My child decides to call another student the "N word" and you and I both hear it. I decide I don't care and I let it go. Would you correct my child?

Frankly, I hope you would!

Maintaining a civil society means all members of society care and work together. We don't turn a blind eye to misbehavior, whether it's by a child or an adult. Prank calling someone you don't like is cruel. If you don't like a person, ignore them. Don't tease them. It's important to teach all our children this lesson, and teach them not to turn a blind eye to bullying, cruelty or prejudice whenever we see or hear it.

And the ONLY way we can teach our children to stand up for what's right, is by modeling it for them.

If you corrected my child there I would just tell you, "Just let it go. He'll learn on his own." And that would be the end of it. I know you're not going to continue correcting my child after I told you to let it go.

So you think a prank call is of the same magnitude as calling another child the "N" word to their face? Wow. Part of being a parent is knowing when to pick your battles..

 

[Magpie]

If you corrected my child there I would just tell you, "Just let it go. He'll learn on his own." And that would be the end of it. I know you're not going to continue correcting my child after I told you to let it go.

So you think a prank call is of the same magnitude as calling another child the "N" word to their face? Wow. Part of being a parent is knowing when to pick your battles..

One prank call might not be such a big deal, just like one racial slur might not mean anything. But one prank call has the potential to become part of a pattern of abusive, harassing behavior. And in this case, other children were asking for the boy's number. He's someone that "no one likes". By saying nothing in this case, the adult is condoning bullying.

So yes, I DO think that kind of cruelty is along the same spectrum. Bullying a child that no one likes is the sort of thing that potentially ends with a school shooting or a suicide.

Aren't we trying to teach our kids to stand up to bullies? How can they learn to do that, if we won't stand up to them ourselves?

BTW - if you told me to "let it go" when I tried to tell your kid not to bully another kid, then I would inform you that I will be passing on your contact information to the parents of the child who is being bullied and let them deal with you directly. If the school hears about the prank call, there will be consequences for your child.

 

[Teacher03]

That's fine. And the day my kids come home in tears because another parent was mean to them is the day that parent and I are going to have words.

Seriously? Your child would cry that a parent is being mean because that parent told them that pranking someone isn't appropriate?

What if it were your child who was being bullied and other parents allowed it to happen under their guidance? It sounds like your child(ren) is pretty thin skinned and wouldn't be able to handle it well, as most kids wouldn't or shouldn't have to.

 

[mhsjax]

That's fine. And the day my kids come home in tears because another parent was mean to them is the day that parent and I are going to have words.

If your kid comes home in tears because another parent lectured them, then you have problems. Sorry, but your kids possible tears don't mean squat when they are doing something they aren't supposed to do while in my care. You are going to have a hard time with that attitude, are you going to have words with teachers, coaches, ect.? I am glad our kid isn't on my DD cheerleading team and it is at a church, those girls get yelled at quite often, and they deserve it, they are goofing off and not working hard, you better believe I back the coach 100%.

 

[ManMythLegend]

If your kid comes home in tears because another parent lectured them, then you have problems. Sorry, but your kids possible tears don't mean squat when they are doing something they aren't supposed to do while in my care. You are going to have a hard time with that attitude, are you going to have words with teachers, coaches, ect.? I am glad our kid isn't on my DD cheerleading team and it is at a church, those girls get yelled at quite often, and they deserve it, they are goofing off and not working hard, you better believe I back the coach 100%.

Coaches and Teachers are in a position of authority and they are basically a pseudo parent depending on the ages of the kids. I don't have a problem with one of those professionals correcting my kids if it is needed. That is completely different from just another parent driving kids around. I gave my kid to you for the time to drive them around, not to monitor their behavior. Sorry if that offends your parental inclinations.

 

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[mhsjax]

And I would tell you to have fun. I don't take kindly to threats.

wow, you are some piece of work. I think I will sit back and see what others say.

 

[mhsjax]

Coaches and Teachers are in a position of authority and they are basically a pseudo parent depending on the ages of the kids. I don't have a problem with one of those professionals correcting my kids if it is needed. That is completely different from just another parent driving kids around. I gave my kid to you for the time to drive them around, not to monitor their behavior. Sorry if that offends your parental inclinations.

Sorry but if I am driving your kid around, you better darn sure believe that while in MY car and on MY time, he will get corrected in a nice way. I bet you won't have friends drive your kid or have your kids over for long, not with that attitude.

Oh and by the way, if I am driving your child around and he is under 18 then yes I am in a position of authority and if you didn't like it then you could get someone else to do the driving.

I really don't understand you, why are you so against another parent telling your child that something they are doing is wrong? I really just don't get it. We aren't talking about a parent screaming at another child. But telling them that what they are doing is wrong.

 

[ManMythLegend]

wow, you are some piece of work. I think I will sit back and see what others say.

Yup I have a big issue with people meddling into the affairs of others. I don't do it to others so I expect them not to do it to me. If they do, we'll have issues.

 

[ManMythLegend]

Sorry but if I am driving your kid around, you better darn sure believe that while in MY car and on MY time, he will get corrected in a nice way. I bet you won't have friends drive your kid or have your kids over for long, not with that attitude.

Seems like most of my kids friends want to come over to my house. Gee I wonder why that is?

 

[mhsjax]

Seems like most of my kids friends want to come over to my house. Gee I wonder why that is?

Probably because you won't say anything to them Gee lets go over to Billy's house, his mom doesn't care what we do.

 

[ManMythLegend]

Probably because you won't say anything to them Gee lets go over to Billy's house, his mom doesn't care what we do.

I like to let kids enjoy their childhood. I'll put them in check on serious issues but once again, prank calls don't fall into that category and nobody will convince me otherwise.

 

[mhsjax]

Teachers would only yell at a student for being disrespectful and I don't have an issue with that. My kids would be the ones to decide to play sports and know that occasionally a coach is going to get angry with them so they know what they're getting into.

And I already said in another post that there are times when it is necessary to step in (fighting, stealing, being disrespectful, etc.) If your stepping is saving my child from direct harm then of course I would want you to do that. Prank calls don't fall in that category and most things wouldn't fall into that category.

Let me pose this question: Suppose you and I are chaperoning a field trip and we get put in charge of a group of 6. One of those 6 students is your child and one is mine. My child decides to prank call someone and you and I both hear it. I decide I don't care and I let it go. Would you correct my child?

Well you didn't ask me but I will tell you what I would do. Since you don't want me correcting your child, I would simply tell the teacher, because down here, cell phones aren't allowed to be used in school or any field trip and second, prank calls would be considered bullying and our school has a zero tolerance and they are serious about it. So since they are in a position of authority, I would just see how they would like to handle it.

 

[MushyMushy]

I like to let kids enjoy their childhood. I'll put them in check on serious issues but once again, prank calls don't fall into that category and nobody will convince me otherwise.

When it's a group of kids picking on what the OP called an "unusual" young man, you can bet it's bullying. Whether you're convinced or not wouldn't matter. The victim of these calls could have a harassment case against the "pranksters."

Prank calls on the whole? Not so serious. But when you're singling out one kid because he's different, whole other issue.

 

[mhsjax]

When it's a group of kids picking on what the OP called an "unusual" young man, you can bet it's bullying. Whether you're convinced or not wouldn't matter. The victim of these calls could have a harassment case against the "pranksters."

Prank calls on the whole? Not so serious. But when you're singling out one kid because he's different, whole other issue.

Exactly

 

[ManMythLegend]

When it's a group of kids picking on what the OP called an "unusual" young man, you can bet it's bullying. Whether you're convinced or not wouldn't matter. The victim of these calls could have a harassment case against the "pranksters."

Prank calls on the whole? Not so serious. But when you're singling out one kid because he's different, whole other issue.

Maybe the kid who is getting "bullied" shouldn't pick up calls from numbers he doesn't recognize

 

[ManMythLegend]

Well you didn't ask me but I will tell you what I would do. Since you don't want me correcting your child, I would simply tell the teacher, because down here, cell phones aren't allowed to be used in school or any field trip and second, prank calls would be considered bullying and our school has a zero tolerance and they are serious about it. So since they are in a position of authority, I would just see how they would like to handle it.

You wouldn't be able to prove my child make a prank call unless the person he/she called came forward and said they did. I'm curious why you keep going back and forth with me on this?

 

[Cooky]

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