Should fee be charged for not cancelling ADR's?

The "valid" reasons for being a no-show are extremely few. It's such a rude and selfish thing to do. If you find you can't make a reservation, call. It's not that big a deal to keep a cell phone and a small paper with the dine number on it. Our last trip I could tell we'd be cutting it close, so I called. I was lucky they were able to slip our reservation an hour, so we'd be able to make it in time. Had they not been able to, though, I would have canceled.


Absolutely correct lily!!! In this world of cellphones, I can't believe people forget how to use them when they can't make it to an ADR they have. If staying on property in your room the phone has a button to press to connect with dining. At the parks a CM can cancel an ADR for you. At the hotels Guest Services the CM there can cancel for you. And finally one can use their own cellphone to cancel.

To me it's just a case of being considerate.
 
Tia, I'm sorry but to me there is no excuse for not cancelling an ADR. Your hotels Guest Services desk could do it for you or you could just call yourself and cancel. I was an hour late for an ADR at Boma two years ago because of a storm and they still sat us.

This is all about being considerate to others. If you can't make an ADR then cancel it. It's funny but when people have to cancel a trip to WDW they cancel their hotel reservation because they would lose their deposit. I'll bet if it would cost people money they'd find a way to cancel an ADR they couldn't use.


So you've never overslept through a breakfast reservation? Then I guess you are vastly superior to me.
 
So you've never overslept through a breakfast reservation? Then I guess you are vastly superior to me.

Kind of hard to oversleep for a breakfast ADR when you can setup a wakeup call.

I don't think that's being superior, just prepared.
 
Kind of hard to oversleep for a breakfast ADR when you can setup a wakeup call.

I don't think that's being superior, just prepared.


I bow to your vastly superior sense of preparedness and ability to never ever sleep through a wake-up call.

I will now pin this scarlet "N" to my shirt so that others may know that I am guilty of the heinous crime of ADR No-Show.
 

If you think about the Dining Plan, for revenue purposes, Disney is getting money in advance whether the seats are filled or not. If people are not on the Dining Plan , they will lose some money but there are SO many people that walk up and want to eat, they will never have a problem.
I agree with a few other posters that if the party doesn't show up within 15 minutes, the reservation should be given away.

There are too many variables in the parks that could delay a party. When you are home and make a reservation at your favorite local restaurant and can't make it, do you expect them to charge you? I have never seen that and hope not too.

I think the 15 minute rule is the way to go, unless a party knows well in advance that they can't make it.
 
Hippie can I have an "N" too? While it doesn't happen to us very often, I distinctly remember taking an unplanned nap on our honeymoon trip and woke up an hour after our dinner ADR. I don't plan on being a no-show and will make an effort to call and cancel even if its just an hour ahead of time, but life happens and sometimes that call never happens. I don't think fees need to be imposed but I'm all for double ADRs being cancelled.
 
I bow to your vastly superior sense of preparedness and ability to never ever sleep through a wake-up call.

I will now pin this scarlet "N" to my shirt so that others may know that I am guilty of the heinous crime of ADR No-Show.

Out of curiousity, if this was a pre-paid ADR like CRT that you slept thru, would you expect your money back?
 
I bow to your vastly superior sense of preparedness and ability to never ever sleep through a wake-up call.

I will now pin this scarlet "N" to my shirt so that others may know that I am guilty of the heinous crime of ADR No-Show.

Sorry Hippie, but no, I've NEVER overslept when I've had a breakfast ADR.

And YES I've always managed to find a way to cancel an ADR that I wasn't going to use. It's really quite simple with todays technology.
 
pmiranda, first off my name is Ron so I'm not a she.

At first I didn't know what you were talking about about, I knew you were a he, and then I saw where I wrote she. My apologies, it's a force of habit on this board, since so many poster's are female. Again, sorry about that.

Secondly, I was told by the CM's at the podium that they are greeters and waitstaff. Disney rotates them all the time so they don't do the same job daily.

I find that remarkable. I've never worked at a restaurant with such an arrangement, and never in my life heard of any restaurant having such an arrangement. Most servers would be dead set against this, as hosting, when they could be earning tips serving, would severley limit their income. Still if they scheduled that many hosts/greeters, then for some reason, they were needed, and would be unable wait tables anyway.

My original point was that I believe there isn't an excuse to not cancel an ADR one won't be using. It's only being considerate. If you have to cancel your trip when you call to cancel the CM can also cancel your ADR's for you.

Yes, I agree, CM's should ask if you want your ADR's cancelled, too. Your also correct in that a great many no-shows are not valid. Perhaps because people are in a different park that day, decided to eat at a different time, or different place, or some other reason they would have known about a few hours ahead of time. People should call to cancel their ADR's ahead of time, agree'd. What about people who don't have credit cards? Some people pay their dining bills with cash, anyway. Should those people not be allowed to make ADR's, and subsequently not get to eat at these reastaurants? Wonder if one of my children or spouse become very ill that day, or they get hurt? While yes, I should call and cancel my ADR, it's probably the furthest thing on my mind. What if my rental car breaks down (this has happened to me more times than I care to remember)? Again, I should call an cancel, but I'm probably busy trying to rectify the breakdown problem, and again furthest thing on my mind. Wonder if I am on a ride that breaks down and I am stuck for an hour? Who knows, maybe that was the case when you were there for all you knew. When people feel they have a valid reason for not showing up and they get charged, imagine the anger they will endure and pass along while getting that charge taken off their card, either with their CC company or yelling at CM's. Even people that don't have a valid excuse would be causing all sorts of problem with CM's while trying to avoid the charge. It's just not necessary in Disney's eyes, as they already have a system to handle it, and it doesn't involve angering guests. No other restaurants on the outside charge for missing a resservation, and it might not even be legal unless it's for a special event. In any case, it's certainly NOT an established practice anywhere.

If you are at WDW but will not, for whatever reason, be able to use an ADR you have for that day, then cancel it. To me their is no reason short of an emergency that should stop someone from cancelling an ADR.

Yes, I agree. Charging people a fee, however, would not work. You asked the question, and I answered it. You must have felt everyone was going to agree with you on charging fee.
 
Hippie can I have an "N" too? While it doesn't happen to us very often, I distinctly remember taking an unplanned nap on our honeymoon trip and woke up an hour after our dinner ADR. I don't plan on being a no-show and will make an effort to call and cancel even if its just an hour ahead of time, but life happens and sometimes that call never happens. I don't think fees need to be imposed but I'm all for double ADRs being cancelled.




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At first I didn't know what you were talking about about, I knew you were a he, and then I saw where I wrote she. My apologies, it's a force of habit on this board, since so many poster's are female. Again, sorry about that.



I find that remarkable. I've never worked at a restaurant with such an arrangement, and never in my life heard of any restaurant having such an arrangement. Most servers would be dead set against this, as hosting, when they could be earning tips serving, would severley limit their income. Still if they scheduled that many hosts/greeters, then for some reason, they were needed, and would be unable wait tables anyway.



Yes, I agree, CM's should ask if you want your ADR's cancelled, too. Your also correct in that a great many no-shows are not valid. Perhaps because people are in a different park that day, decided to eat at a different time, or different place, or some other reason they would have known about a few hours ahead of time. People should call to cancel their ADR's ahead of time, agree'd. What about people who don't have credit cards? Some people pay their dining bills with cash, anyway. Should those people not be allowed to make ADR's, and subsequently not get to eat at these reastaurants? Wonder if one of my children or spouse become very ill that day, or they get hurt? While yes, I should call and cancel my ADR, it's probably the furthest thing on my mind. What if my rental car breaks down (this has happened to me more times than I care to remember)? Again, I should call an cancel, but I'm probably busy trying to rectify the breakdown problem, and again furthest thing on my mind. Wonder if I am on a ride that breaks down and I am stuck for an hour? Who knows, maybe that was the case when you were there for all you knew. When people feel they have a valid reason for not showing up and they get charged, imagine the anger they will endure and pass along while getting that charge taken off their card, either with their CC company or yelling at CM's. Even people that don't have a valid excuse would be causing all sorts of problem with CM's while trying to avoid the charge. It's just not necessary in Disney's eyes, as they already have a system to handle it, and it doesn't involve angering guests. No other restaurants on the outside charge for missing a resservation, and it might not even be legal unless it's for a special event. In any case, it's certainly NOT an established practice anywhere.



Yes, I agree. Charging people a fee, however, would not work. You asked the question, and I answered it. You must have felt everyone was going to agree with you on charging fee.

pmiranda, I absolutely didn't think everyone would agree with me, but please some of the excuses you've come up with just don't cut it. Short of a medical emergency, why wouldn't one be able to call and cancel. Stuck on a ride or a car breakdown doesn't stop one from making a call.

And why does Disney take CC's on New Years Eve to hold reservations? It seems if they can do it then, they can do it everyday.
 
I think they should abolish ADR's. First come first serve.

Truth is, Disney makes more money off of advanced reservation guests. I'll say it again, if the party is later than 15 minutes their reservation is given to someone else. It's really that simple.
 
Tia, I'm sorry but to me there is no excuse for not cancelling an ADR. Your hotels Guest Services desk could do it for you or you could just call yourself and cancel. I was an hour late for an ADR at Boma two years ago because of a storm and they still sat us.

This is all about being considerate to others. If you can't make an ADR then cancel it. It's funny but when people have to cancel a trip to WDW they cancel their hotel reservation because they would lose their deposit. I'll bet if it would cost people money they'd find a way to cancel an ADR they couldn't use.

Am I missing something? Don't you think there were hungry people sitting by while you took an extra hour to claim your table? Maybe you should try taking your own advice.:sad2:
 
Am I missing something? Don't you think there were hungry people sitting by while you took an extra hour to claim your table? Maybe you should try taking your own advice.:sad2:

khurley, we were staying at the WL when the storm hit and there was no way I was going to get my car or send the valet for it in such a violent storm. Therefore I pushed the Dining button on our inroom phone and told the CM on the line what my predicament was and if it was possible to be seated later. She told me to get there when I could and they would let Boma know my situation. So anyone that was there at 6:00 without an ADR I'm sure was seated and we were seated when we arrived an hour later.

Like I've said I wouldn't have had an excuse not to call, and so I did.
 
pmiranda, I absolutely didn't think everyone would agree with me, but please some of the excuses you've come up with just don't cut it. Short of a medical emergency, why wouldn't one be able to call and cancel. Stuck on a ride or a car breakdown doesn't stop one from making a call.

Well, sorry but that's your opinion, I simply do not agree with you. You apparently refuse to acknowedge that something vastly more important than a minor thing like restaurant reservations can come up and preoccupy your TIME or thoughts. Some of us will cancel, given every opportunity to do so, such as myself, but sometimes it just doesn't work out that way, period. Some of us have lives not quite so centered around restaurant reservations. Its not about being discourteous, because as I have mentioned, I do agree that ADR's should be canceled when they are not going to be used, it just happens.

And why does Disney take CC's on New Years Eve to hold reservations? It seems if they can do it then, they can do it everyday.[/QUOTE]
 
Well, sorry but that's your opinion, I simply do not agree with you. You apparently refuse to acknowedge that something vastly more important than a minor thing like restaurant reservations can come up and preoccupy your TIME or thoughts. Some of us will cancel, given every opportunity to do so, such as myself, but sometimes it just doesn't work out that way, period. Some of us have lives not quite so centered around restaurant reservations. Its not about being discourteous, because as I have mentioned, I do agree that ADR's should be canceled when they are not going to be used, it just happens.

And why does Disney take CC's on New Years Eve to hold reservations? It seems if they can do it then, they can do it everyday.
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pmiranda, lets just agree to disagree. My life isn't centered around restaurant reservations, but we all pay good money for Disney vacations and we should all have the opportunity to eat where we want on these trips, but can't because some people don't cancel ADR's they can't use. I've read a number of times where people make two ADR's a day for dinner in two different areas of the property because they don't know where they would be at dinner time. I find that unacceptible.

My point is when someone cancels a trip it's very easy to cancel their ADR's at the same time. If people knew they would have to pay a fee for not cancelling, I bet they would find a way to make that call.

Maybe to protect those that do have real emergencies Disney could give one noncancellation per group per trip. This would stop those who book more than one per day their entire stay.
 
I've read a number of times where people make two ADR's a day for dinner in two different areas of the property because they don't know where they would be at dinner time. I find that unacceptible.

Well, at least we can both agree on that! :thumbsup2
 


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