Should all Signature restaurants ban children under 10?

[stitchlover]

I voted no. I am fine with the V&A decision. But I do think parents with unruly children at all signature restaurants should be addressed by the management. It is only fair to EVERYONE that an unruly child be removed until they are calm.

 

[kaytieeldr]

100% absolutely NO !!! Disney if for kids,

Oh, no! Not again!!!!!!!!!! Disney is for PEOPLE... people of all ages, and in all possible definitions of 'family'. Hey, if Disney was "for kids", let the KIDS pay for the trip!

but that is fine because they get up later than other kids too because they are home-schooled. While at WDW we tend to eat later in the evening at nice restaurants

Which is why "adults only after __ PM" restaurants wouldn't work.

I still like the idea of rotating adults-only at the Signature restaurants: Monday night California Grill, Tuesday Yachtsman, Wednesday Jiko, Thursday Brown Derby... by including HDB, Disney would avoid having a static schedule for each location. Next week CG would be adults only on Tuesday; Wednesday the week after that...

 

[MakiraMarlena]

What they should have done is set hours of operation - 4-6 family dining

Family dining at V&A?

Would they serve a children's menu? Kobe beef burger? Quail nuggets with heirloom tomato/vinegar sauce? Puree of meat and cartilage shaped into a tube, accompanied by pickled cucumbers and mustard-seed aioli?

 

[chip&dale]

You shouldn't ban anybody from any restaurants.Some Adults can't behave some children can't behave.It's up to management to manage badly behaved guests whether they are 4 or 84.

 

[TDC Nala]

You shouldn't ban anybody from any restaurants.Some Adults can't behave some children can't behave.It's up to management to manage badly behaved guests whether they are 4 or 84.

Hooray! I can go to that tea thing, then.

 

[chip&dale]

TDC - Yes you can ,but remember to behave nicely !

 

[Tricia1972]

What they should have done is set hours of operation - 4-6 family dining - 7-close 10+ ... Oh and I also seen the poll you are referring to - the results are quite surprising, but dont change the bottom line and that is that this restaurant in a Disney Resort is now discriminating.

I don't know how familiar you are with Victoria & Albert's. It isn't your usual 'signature' dining experience. They have two seatings each evening. The first seating is from 5:45-6:30 and the second seating is from 9:00-9:45. It is a fixed menu price - along with a fixed menu that rotates on a daily basis. The fixed menu price is $125 per person. Even before the age cut off this was the price for everyone. It has never even had a children's menu and is the only five diamond restaurant in the entire central Florida area.

It is a 2.5-3 hour dining experience that requires all guests to wear formal attire. You have your own personal waiter and waitress for the evening for your 7 course gourmet menu. Your water is only Evian and is served in your crystal water glass. They come around with a crumber to clean your linens between each of the courses, and dinner is served on fine china with real silver and crystal. It's an intimate setting, with a harpist and romantic lighting.

From your comment about family dining time I realized that you probably didn't know the details about this restaurant. (like the fact that they only have two seatings)

I don't know if knowing more about V&A's changes your mind or not. You can still feel that they discriminate, this is your right. Just like it's everyone else's right to disagree or agree with your opinion.

 

[FDV]

They should ban the parents of unruly children regardless of age. Because generally it is the parent that is behaving poorly by allowing the child's behavior.

 

[stellablue]

TDC - Yes you can ,but remember to behave nicely !

but dont change the bottom line and that is that this restaurant in a Disney Resort is now discriminating.

But all joking aside, I've been told that adults CAN'T go to the Princess Tea Party. I've been told that the parents of the kids aren't even allowed to attend. Is this correct info? (If I'm wrong, please correct me).

Actually, this webpage lists at least 4 different activities at the GF that have age restrictions for kids 4-12 only:

http://www.allearsnet.com/pl/grandadven.htm

So, am I right in saying that there ARE currently age-restrictions at WDW that are ALL actually in favor of kids under 10 (or under 12 in some cases) already? Excluding alcohol-related/lawful age related events I mean.
Sounds "discriminating"....

If this info is true, than why would putting age restrictions on V&A even be an issue?

and what about other age restrictions? How come I have to pay ten dollars more to eat at CRT breakfast (as an adult) than a child aged 3-9? I only weigh 110 pounds and I eat like a bird. I have a friend who actually has a 9 year old boy who weighs more than me and he also eats double in portions than I do. He would likely eat more than me at this buffet, yet he is charged less.

and why can't I have a beer at CRT? I'm a light drinker and I promise to "behave"...now, there MIGHT be others there drinking who get a bit loud and obnoxious from their beers-would you rather wait until they spill beer on your kid's dress during her photo with Cinderella before they give that one strike to get kicked out? Likely not because now your child's experience has been ruined.

I am NOT saying that I am actually serious about being ticked off with the above age restrictions. I know what is appropriate for my age, I understand why age restrictions are put into place, and I don't feel discriminated against. I also know that WDW is large enough that I have SEVERAL other options to choose from.

I am just saying that there are currently age restrictions already in place, some for reasons of social appropriateness and some based on a norm population.

These age restrictions are in favor of the under 10 crowd and I've never heard anyone seriously complain about them. So WDW decides to throw adults a bone ONE time to allow adults to enjoy a special "adult experience" (just like kids enjoy "kid experiences" at the P&P party), why would anyone complain about that?

I have alot of faith in WDW. They have done an amazing job so far in making this place as grand as it is and marketing it to ALL ages, economic status, interests, etc...They have done an amazing job so far and they are obviously responding to a significant number of guest requests.

Is it truthfully going to ruin your child's entire vacation because he/she can't go to 1 out of over 100 restaurants until they are a few years older? It's not like they can never go, they just need to wait a couple of years.

Makes me wonder though-the parents who are upset by this: are any of you upset by this because YOU wanted to go to V&A during your trip, but now you can't because you are traveling with children?

 

[pfalcioni]

Is it discrimanitory when your local pool has 'lap swim' hours for adults, and 'play' hours for kids? Is it discrimination when parks close areas for private parties? Is it unfair when local bars with restaurants don't allow anyone under 21 after 8pm?

All aspects of life have different definitions of 'adult'. From 10 year olds paying 'adult' prices, to over-18 'adults' allowed into R rated movies, allowed to go to war, and allowed to vote, but only over 21 'adults' allowed to drink.

There's no one set of rules that work well for every situation. Rules are put in place to keep the majority of participants happy and healthy. There will always be people who fit outside those parameters. It's not discrimination, it's just life.

Part of the joy of growing older is getting to do those things that are reserved for 'adults'.

 

[stellablue]

It's not discrimination, it's just life.

Part of the joy of growing older is getting to do those things that are reserved for 'adults'.

Amen!! Very well stated

 

[sjaakie]

V&A's is just too expensive a meal to have young children becoming rowdy, and possibly ruining someone else's evening. As to the Signature restaurants; no. These restaurants are WAYYY less expensive than V&A, plus are located in kid-friendly areas in the resorts.

V&A is not expensive. Its for European standard a normal price for a dinner.
Its just an normal restaurant and nothing special on the menu that other restaurants don't serve.
I don't understand all the fuss about I'm eating "expensive" so kick everyone else out.

I wonder what happens if parens with an adult but mentally handicaped child would like to eat there?
Will they also be banned?

 

[Uncleromulus]

That's got NOTHING to do with this thread---.

 

[sjaakie]

That's got NOTHING to do with this thread---.

The most people moan about the price and that's why the like to be alone in V&A ore any Restautant they think is expensive.

Ist the price of the restaurant that makes the public ore bans it as I read this poll.

 

[kaytieeldr]

V&A is not expensive. Its for European standard a normal price for a dinner.
Its just an normal restaurant and nothing special on the menu that other restaurants don't serve.

Really? Forgetting that Victoria & Albert's is not IN Europe.... The normal restaurant over there has a prix fixe menu, costs upwards of eighty-five euros, has a five diamond/four star/other outstanding rating, provides each table with its own exclusive server...?

I wonder what happens if parens with an adult but mentally handicaped child would like to eat there?
Will they also be banned?

You're kidding, right? Ideally, Disney is reading this thread and will now be aware that they need to reword the policy to indicate "chronological age".
V&A never had a childrens' menu.
V&A never had childrens' pricing.
A reasonable person would determine that Disney set a chronological age restriction at this restaurant in response to complaints/comments from diners regarding the lack of children options. It's not coincidence that the age limit is identical to that which Disney considers an adult for dining (and park ticket) prices.

 

[Tricia1972]

V&A is not expensive. Its for European standard a normal price for a dinner.

Even if that were true, and it's not - I just googled some European menus and can't find anything 'normal' to touch V&A's pricing - it is not the American standard for a meal. For us poor folks over here it's a big splurge.

Its just an normal restaurant and nothing special on the menu that other restaurants don't serve.

If this were true, and again it's not, I am glad that you feel that V&A is very normal and like every other Disney restaurant. Then surely you won't mind skipping this one restaurant that is 'just like the rest' but for children 10 and over only to eat with your younger children at another of Disney's 100 dining establishments. After all, V&A is just like Jiko, LeCellier, Chef Mickey or even Crystal Palace.

I don't understand all the fuss about I'm eating "expensive" so kick everyone else out...

For me it isn't just the cost. It's the elegant atmosphere, it's the harpist, it's the crystal and china, the personalized attention from your personal servers. Elegant atmospheres can quickly be tarnished by one unruly child - and for many of us poor folks this is a once in a lifetime experience to eat here.

 

[wendy46001]

OMG - you were compt because a child was being rowdy? Who are you to judge any other person?

Rowdy...LOL...
No child should be left to scream at the top of their lungs for 45min in a restaurant (a quite upscale one at that)...That child should have been removed from the situation....Other then ask the waiter what was wrong we did not make a scene....After the party left the manager came over apologized and said he would compt. us....we did not ask to be moved....we did not demand a thing...Did i roll my eyes.... you bet....

I truly believe the reason adult only restaurants are discussed is because of this type of family

 

[caroline1851]

Yes. I feel that adults should have an option of dining out without children being present.

 

[Luv4Disney]

Although I voted yes, I'd be willing to accept a compromise - restrict it to adults only for ADR's after a certain time (perhaps 8:00 pm).

I'd also vote in favor of certain places requiring a party to have young children with them before they can eat there. Chef Mickey's comes to mind.

DH and I do not have kids and have eaten at Chef Mickey's. Why must we have kids in order to eat there? We like the food and atmosphere, it would be wrong to tell us we can't there because we don't have young children. Is it because we wouldn't act fun enough?

 

[alldiz]

I voted no....

I think that maybe they can save reservations say after 8:30 for
adults only
Kerri