Shorts at Artist Point

[ducklite]

Originally posted by mrssalvaggio
Hey duck, liten up - you missed the point anyway. I was referring to PrincessAurora's desire to wear a gown to V&A/Citricos. Surely you wouldn't deny her that (remember she supported you ((her fellow "dress snob")) earlier).

I do'nt appreciate your nasty comment. I am not a dress snob, simply a person who feels that even though I'm on vacation common manners and courtesy do'nt go out the window.

There is a time and place for everything. I wear a t-shirt and shorts when working in my flowerbed. I wear appropriate attire when dining at an upscale restaurant, even when I'm on vacation. Particularly when that is the dress code my host has requested.

Anne

 

[Eeyore2U]

 

[Tea Please]

We recently ate there and let me tell you, it was anything goes!!
There was a man there in a tank with a hairy back which was quite disgusting. But I don't think he was treated differantly
than any other diner. My motto is "to each his own" and if he was comfortable than good for him. Dress however you feel comfortable. Certainly, I do not dress as I would normally here at home, but we do try to clean up

 

[mrssalvaggio]

No intention to be "nasty" ducklite - just quoting PrincessAurora. Don't worry, I'm not judging you. Hope you have nice weather today so you can work in your flowerbed. Have a great day.

 

[DisneyKidds]

Particularly when that is the dress code my host has requested.

Anne - I'm not quite sure how to read your posts and I don't want to get myself in trouble here, but are you implying that anyone who wears shorts to AP (or any other WDW restaurant a step below V&A) is not in "appropriate attire" because Disney has requested some specific dress (ie - no shorts)?

Resort casual may be the "code", but this poster seemed to shed some light on exactly what that means..............

I believe AP is one of the restaurants that has a "resort casual" dress code. When I asked the CM on the phone what that meant, they said "Don't wear a swimsuit or a tube top and you'll be fine."

...........and it apparently doesn't mean that Disney has requested you wear pants to such an establishment.

No problem if YOU want to wear pants or nicer outfits to some of the nicer WDW restaurants, but please don't imply others are somehow inappropriate if they do not.

 

[ducklite]

I have posted repeatedly the written information I have gotten from various concierge staffs via e-mail about the dress CODE (their words) at several of the more upscale WDW restaurants that are very specific about what is and is not appropriate attire.

Additionally when you book some of these restaurants they will specifically tell you the dress code. (Generally more specifically what isn't allowed.)

My problem is with the people who have been told what is expected who then choose to do just the opposite because they're on vacation and so they can do whatever they want.

WDW is trying to create an atmosphere at some of their finer restaurants. Part of the atmosphere includes a certain look, not only to the premises, but to the people dining in them. When people choose to not follow the requested dress, it ruins the atmosphere for other diners. As the earlier poster said, she spent a meal looking at some guy in a tank top with a hairy back. not only unappetizing, but downright gross.

I just don't understand why it's so difficult to put on chinos and a golf shirt or capris and a blouse for dinner? No one is requesting a gown (as one poster implied that I was saying). Just a step above t-shirts and shorts that one's been sweating in all day. It only takes half an hour to stop back to your resort and clean up. Use that time to enjoy a glass of wine and some cheese in your room as well. What's the big deal?

And remember, regretfully the CM's at CRO are often not trained as well as they could be, and that one probably didn't know what "resort casual" meant, so they guessed. In doing so they gave incorrect information.

Anne

 

[PrincessAurora]

First: mrssalvaggio, thank you for being nice and sticking up for me. That was very sweet of you. You understand my humor and POV.

Ducklite: I have NO idea where you are coming from and it was poor form of you to bash mrssalvaggio. Her comment was in no way nasty. If you re-read my original post I was SUPPORTING you and using a self-deprecating remark towards MYSELF in a joking manner. I am a self-described dress snob, wine snob, Disney snob, costume snob, etc. It is meant in a playful way and not like a real snob. It was just humorous.

I never implied you were talking about gowns or any such thing. Just so we are all clear. I personally, myself, LIKE dressing up. I wear gowns, furs (I don't do PC), sparkly cocktails dresses, strappy shoes, etc. when I go to a nice restaurant or a play. That is ME. I like my date to be dressed similar to myself. That is ME. Anyone else is more than welcome to dress however they feel comfortable. Disney has a resort casual dress code and yes, park clothes are perfectly fine! For MYSELF, I like to be dressy. I am a Disney Princess after all.

So no hard feelings.

 

[DisneyKidds]

My problem is with the people who have been told what is expected who then choose to do just the opposite because they're on vacation and so they can do whatever they want.

But it seems you are the only one I am aware of that was ever "told" that you were not supposed to wear shorts to Artists Point. I just called WDW Dining and the WL (ok, I guess I officially have too much time on my hands) and both said there is no dress code for Artists Point. Unfortunately, there is nobody at AP right now, but later on I will call and speak to the host/hostest and get word directly from the restaurant. I think that would be more reliable that the emails you allude to have gotten from various concierges, no? It will be interesting to hear what they have to say.

 

[ducklite]

I never said I was specifically told you couldn't wear shorts to AP. I was told it was a "resort casual" restaurant.

The way I was brought up, resort casual is basically business casual, and where I work if you showed up in shorts you'd be sent home.

Anne

 

[Eeyore2U]

Originally posted by ducklite
I never said I was specifically told you couldn't wear shorts to AP. I was told it was a "resort casual" restaurant.

The way I was brought up, resort casual is basically business casual, and where I work if you showed up in shorts you'd be sent home.

Anne

So, you are giving us your spin or interpretation of the you think the rule is or should be. I think as long as I follow the rules of the HOST I'll be fine. Sorry Duck. I think your post above shows us that it it what YOU want and not what the HOST is requiring.

 

[PatriciaH]

If Disney has a dress code at some of their restaurants and they have a problem with people wearing certain things and ruining the atmosphere for others, why would they let them in the restaurant? Because they don't really care about the atmosphere they care about the $$$. They also do not want to offend anyone.

I for one love the fact that DH or I can wear shorts to a nicer restaurant in WDW!

 

[ducklite]

Originally posted by Eeyore2U
So, you are giving us your spin or interpretation of the you think the rule is or should be. I think as long as I follow the rules of the HOST I'll be fine. Sorry Duck. I think your post above shows us that it it what YOU want and not what the HOST is requiring.

Like I said, I was told resort casual attire. Resort casual is NOT theme park casual. At least at any resort I've ever been to.

It's too bad WDW doesn't enforce their own policies.

Anne

 

[Eeyore2U]

Originally posted by ducklite
Like I said, I was told resort casual attire. Resort casual is NOT theme park casual. At least at any resort I've ever been to.

It's too bad WDW doesn't enforce their own policies.

Anne

And Resort Casual is not Business Casual. And quite to the contrary, I think they enforce the dress code, just not to your inflated standards.

 

[FloridaCat]

I dine at some of the finest from Orlando to Daytona Beach. and all points in between. Dress code is casual, shorts, unless it is a dinner dance.

 

[gumdrop]

Originally posted by ducklite
I just don't understand why it's so difficult to put on chinos and a golf shirt or capris and a blouse for dinner? No one is requesting a gown (as one poster implied that I was saying). Just a step above t-shirts and shorts that one's been sweating in all day. It only takes half an hour to stop back to your resort and clean up. Use that time to enjoy a glass of wine and some cheese in your room as well. What's the big deal?
Anne

Live and let live (and let them eat in shorts if they want).

 

[FloridaCat]

Give me a break, this is Florida. Shorts and a collared shirt are acceptable throughout Florida in some very prestigious establishments.

I have a friend with a large company and when someone is transfer from up North and shows up wearing a tie; the custom is to cut it off and tack to the wall behind his desk.

I spent many years with a 500 company where we were required to wear three piece suits. They hang in my closet reserved for weddings and funerals.

 

[dg39]

After reading many posts on this board and others, I realize that some people just like to disagree for the sake of disagreeing. If the restaurant in question allows shorts, then shorts it is. If someone doesn't like it too bad. For the rest of us, go to your restaurant, wear whatever you want, and enjoy yourself.

 

[FloridaCat]

Thats what it is all about

 

[TIdoublegaER]

When we ate there last year, I wore a sundress and DH wore golf shorts and golf shirt. We were not overdressed or underdressed. We did see some dressed in business casual and formal business attire and others in jean shorts and t-shirt. I personally would feel underdressed in jean shorts and a t-shirt, which is what I normally wear to the parks.

 

[DisneyKidds]

If the restaurant in question allows shorts, then shorts it is.

And just so there is no question................shorts are indeed fine.

I spoke to the HOSTess at Artists Point this evening. I told her that I was told that the dress code was resort casual and I just wanted to know what that meant. She said, and I quote, "We have no dress code, whatever you want to wear is fine". So I asked if shorts were ok. She said shorts would be fine, even a T-shirt.

I have no problem with someone wanting to dress nicer, just don't try and impose your will and desire on others and make them feel uncomfortable about wearing shorts. I also realize some diners might want a more upscale meal and may want to see people dressed nicer. However, everyone is spending the same amount of money and I don't see that the desire and wish of the person who wants to see all pants is any more important than the wishes of the person who wants to wear shorts.

Straight from Artists Point comes word that shorts are fine. I think everyone should wear what they want and stop worrying so much about what anyone else is wearing.