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[momshark]

I can't even tell you how much my stomach is turning from hearing reading about ALL of these sooo UNDisney behaviors. I am taking my 6yo DS in June for his first time and am really scared about what he may be exposed to.

Isn't there some kind of actual law against exposing yourself in public??? (I'm talking about the men lettin' it all hang out in the previous threads.) If I do see this I will RUN to a CM and tell them.

Also, for those lovely line-cutters, or bumpers that CMs do see - aren't they allowed to politely say something like, "I'm sorry but the rope is here for...." , or "I'm sorry but there is a line, and these people have been waiting..."?

Now for my shocking sight. In 1998 my DD, then 7yo, and I were waiting for the parade on Main Street in the MK, during the DAY, and a lady on the larger side, walked by in overall shorts with NO TOP under it!!! OMG!!! Well, I couldn't rip my daughter's eyes away. Finally the lady walked away and my DD just started cracking up. Thank goodness we were of the same gender. The impact wasn't as startling or shocking for my DD as it could have been.



Oh well, I guess that when you think you've seen just about everything - blink.

 

[LibertyBelle]

Originally posted by momshark

Also, for those lovely line-cutters, or bumpers that CMs do see - aren't they allowed to politely say something like, "I'm sorry but the rope is here for...." , or "I'm sorry but there is a line, and these people have been waiting..."?
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I just wanted to respond to that one...As a CM I have had my share of line cutters and I am one that will not stand for it. You can rest assured that there are those of us who will say something to them. It seems like it is all in the personality of the CM some just look the other way while others will make a scene over it. We have people that jump over railings to get on my attraction all the time and they are polietly (ok sometimes not so polietly but we always get cheers from the others around) asked to get off and return to the back of the line. We don't stand for that where I am

As for the other stuff, I think that people in general need to have a little common sense and respect others. I personally have never had a problem with things as you have stated, but I have heard stories.

 

[momshark]

Thank you so much for giving an expert reply. I am also wondering, after reading the post about the group of cursing parade watchers, if people who are extremely behaviorally unacceptable are ever actually asked to leave the park, any park?


Thanks again - I really can't wait to come back!

 

[kilee]

momshark-- welcome to the Dis-- glad you found us!!!

Try not to take it too seriously. I know these people can be annoying, but don't let them get the best of you or ruin your vacation. You're bound to bump into a few of them. I actually feel sorry that some of them think that their ways are "right". When we all generally can see it isn't. Hope you have a great trip.

 

[Disney Debbie]

Honestly - while there will be rude people - they are in the minority IMO. I can only think of a few times where someone was just downright rude to me - most people are at least cordial if not downright nice - and lots are just clueless! You just have to laugh most of it off - and if nothing else they make great stories to tell when you get home! I always go on any trip expecting to have a good time and to meet nice people - and I always do!

 

[Stepharoonie!]

No matter where you go anymore...be it Disney, the beach, your local supermarket, etc...there is ALWAYS going to be SOMEONE doing SOMETHING that you do not like or approve of. There's no reason to be worried about taking a 6 year old to Disney because someone may be doing something offensive (that you wouldn't want your child to see).

I deal with line cutters all of the time around here at any local shop...so I'm used to that, I guess.

 

[McCall]

Originally posted by LibertyBelle
I just wanted to respond to that one...As a CM I have had my share of line cutters and I am one that will not stand for it. You can rest assured that there are those of us who will say something to them. It seems like it is all in the personality of the CM some just look the other way while others will make a scene over it. We have people that jump over railings to get on my attraction all the time and they are polietly (ok sometimes not so polietly but we always get cheers from the others around) asked to get off and return to the back of the line. We don't stand for that where I am

As for the other stuff, I think that people in general need to have a little common sense and respect others. I personally have never had a problem with things as you have stated, but I have heard stories.

It used to be that everyone that worked for Disney got very extensive training on absolutely everything behavoir wise and were trained in enforcing the rules. You could depend on them doing it either on their own or when you pointed out something. Now is seems to be left up to the individual CM if they wish to do anything?
and where is Disney security these days? in the old days I have seen people escourted out of the parks, and for what would be minor infractions these days. Don't they have any official policy anymore?
I have never bought the "don't want to offend a paying guest" theory, because you are going to either offend the offencive guest if you take him to task, OR You are going to offend several paying well mannered guests by doing nothing. So if one group or the other is upset and decides not to return to Disney, which does Disney prefer it be??????

 

[WDSearcher]

There truly is not that much offensive behavior in the parks. It's not like bullies are roaming rough-shod throughout WDW and picking on the meek and mild while CMs and security forces stand by watching idly. For the thousands and thousands of people who walk through the gates each day, there's an amazingly small amount of bad behavior. Yes, everyone has a story of that one rude guy at the parade, or that mean mom in the character greeting line. But I'd wager there are a lot more stories out there -- a lot more by droves -- of experiences that were magical and fun and what they were supposed to be. It's human nature that the one rude guy is going to stick out more than the thousands of other people who behaved themselves, but still ... let's keep a little perspective here.

Yes, McCall ... Disney security will still throw people out of the park for aggressive, offensive or inappropriate behavior. But it also needs to be reported immediately. And an investigation needs to be done and time needs to be taken to get it right and make sure it WAS offensive behavior and not just a misunderstanding. A lot of people don't report things because they don't want to bother. Or they report it three hours later when there's no chance of finding the offensive person, much less getting them out of the park. Cast members are are taught to enforce rules, but they don't get any superpowers with those costumes. A 20-year-old petite ride operator isn't going to be a match for a 6-foot tall argumentative frat guy, whether she's empowered to be or not. And by the time they can call in backup, the offensive party has generally high-tailed it out of there.

I think it's unfair to paint the parks as a place where bad behavior goes unnoticed and well-mannered guests are brushed off or where there are no policies to deal with it all.

 

[tjmw2727]

Don't worry you will have a wonderful vacation! You have just read a thread about "dissapointments" but there are also many threads about the wonderful surprises and great things that happen.

We have had an issue or two but much more often are the nice, special things that happen and the really great people we have met in line or while waiting for a parade.

I have had people hold a parade spot for us while I rushed dd to the bathroom and I have had people crowd us out as well. I try and focus on the positive.

Hang around for a while and you will soon see the thread where the CM "made my day" and get psyched again!

TJ

 

[SharonS]

I experienced a terrible incident while in line for Space MOuntain. Some woman just was pushing her way through everyone saying 'excuse me, I have to get with my party'. When she tried to get by me, I had positioned myself in the middle of the lane and was holding on to the rail. She knocked my hand down and when I said something, she turned around and hit me in the face. Her party was way up ahead. When I reached the entrance to the ride, I told the CM what happened, and who had done it. They pulled her party and myself into a room. The security came, and she lied. The rest of her party stated how she would never do something like that....they weren't even in sight when the incident occurred. This woman had about 70 pounds on me, and my face was bruised. The security did nothing about it....instead I was made to feel that I did something wrong. In the end, they simply allowed both of us to get on the ride. These people learned that it is fine to bully people and Disney did nothing! At the very least, these people should not have been allowed to ride.

 

[WDSearcher]

It's hard when it's someone's word against someone else's word. It's too bad there wasn't a huge group of people on your side like on hers. Were you given the option of filing charges? (Probably not, since Disney Security is not considered police.) Although I'm thinking you could have pursued that at that point ... it sounds as though it was serious enough. I'm sorry you had that experience!

 

[Mickey Moose]

So what is proper etiquete for leaving line to say go to the bathroom when you return to line? Is it leave the line loose your spot, or leave the line and re-join your party?

We just returned from a very busy Easter trip and it seemed that people were leaving line to tend to kids, or go to the bathroom, or supervise kids in certain spots in the cue where kids could gather and run a little. Later, as their party moved on, they rest would re-join the party. I saw this many times on many different attractions. I didn't hear one complaint about it or see one incident regarding that. It seemed to me that the right thing was to let the persons re-join their party to ride the attraction together. Does anyone know if Disney have a policy on this?

Mickey Moose

 

[GoofysPrincess]

Maybe I've just been very lucky, but in the 8 or 9 times we've been to WDW, I don't think I've ever encountered what I would call REALLY rude behavior. I guess we're all a little different in how we define it...

The one time someone rude was bothering us (not directly just in proximity at a restaurant), we asked to be moved to a different part of the restaurant. The CM was very sympathetic and gave us a free dessert for the trouble.

Certainly security should address being punched in the face or foul language at the parades -- but I think these things are very rare at WDW and hope newcomers don't get the wrong idea about the quality of the experience at WDW.

 

[shatzjsl]

Mickey Moose - great picture!! What a little princess!

 

[Mickey Moose]

Thanks shatzjsl,

I got some great pics that trip without the crowds around cause we had ressies at CRT before the park opened

Mickey Moose

 

[wdwdvcdad]

Originally posted by SharonS
I had positioned myself in the middle of the lane and was holding on to the rail. She knocked my hand down and when I said something, she turned around and hit me in the face.

if you were polite, it never would have happened. The rudeness (initially) was not on her part. of course, we are only getting one side of the story. What else did you say or do to lead to this? While it is posible for someone to snap like this, it usually takes a bit of provocation.

 

[soupy11]

Woah. I don't think it mattered what SharonS said. She could have told her to keep her &^#*&$^@( hands to herself. No way does it deserve a hit to the face.

Your post seems awfully insensitive. Blame the victim? Yikes

 

[wdwdvcdad]

read it again, "say or do". I'd bet there is more to the story.

 

[sarahsmom73]

I just wanted to reassure you that when we were there last week (EASTER time) the only rude behavior we encountered was waiting for our bus at the hotel 1 time.. Even though there was a line people just skipped the line..

I have to give the people out there who offered me a seat many kudos.. Lots of times the busses were mobbed as all 5 Epcot resorts shared 1 bus... Everytime I was offered a seat when they saw I was holding my dd, 2.5... It was very, every friendly... We even had a family with children who were teens let us get ahead of them to get to the MK because we had a little one. When we said we couldn't possibly do that the Father told us they had been many times and there was no sense for us to wait.. That's what I call Disney Magic..

Maybe there were things I just didn't notice but I thought the manners of people were very good.. And there were a lot of people.

I hope you have a great and magical trip!

 

[Disney Debbie]

Originally posted by wdwdvcdad
if you were polite, it never would have happened. The rudeness (initially) was not on her part. of course, we are only getting one side of the story. What else did you say or do to lead to this? While it is posible for someone to snap like this, it usually takes a bit of provocation.

It does USUALLY take a bit of provocation. But sometimes people just act like jerks for no reason. I think your post demonstrates that fact quite well.