Shocking Article on ADHD.

joolz1910

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After following recent threads on people's attitudes to children with ADHD (on flights and in the parks), I was shocked to read this on the BBC. Personally, I think this sort of irresponsible journalism doesn't provoke debate but inflames prejudice.:sad2:



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8232633.stm
 
Hi Joolz

Thanks for posting that. My son has ADHD and stuff like this makes my blood boil. To quote from the article.

But the chief executive of The National Attention Deficit Disorder Information and Support Service said there was nothing controversial about it.

"These are children with a disability who cannot wait. You cannot teach someone who is crippled to walk, someone who is deaf to hear," says Andrea Bilbow. "They have a 30% maturity lag, and are emotionally younger than their peers.

"This is no different to these children being allowed to go ahead in the dinner queue at school.

"What people need to remember is that it doesn't just make it easier for the child and their carers, it's better for everyone in that queue too."

My son was subjected to 7 years of bullying throughout Primary school and is most definitely affected by his ADHD. While I try to make as little of it as possible to him his differences from other children are obvious, something which has made life difficult for him at times.:sad2:
 
Hi Joolz

Thanks for posting that. My son has ADHD and stuff like this makes my blood boil. To quote from the article.



My son was subjected to 7 years of bullying throughout Primary school and is most definitely affected by his ADHD. While I try to make as little of it as possible to him his differences from other children are obvious, something which has made life difficult for him at times.:sad2:

I must say, Bronny, I did hesitate to post this as I know a lot of Dissers have chidren with ADHD, but it made me so angry. To use expressions like 'queue jumpers' - that really shows their attitude to disability. The whole article implies that ADHD isn't a 'real' disability and that these children are just 'impatient' and 'immature'. It is the sort of attitude that was around 20 years ago - certainly a retrograde step.
 
Thanks for posting the link, Joolz.

I have to say I'm used to stuff like this from the BBC, it's like they are trying to be a bit cynical and questioning. This isn't as bad as some of the rubbish that Dr Rosemary they have on Breakfast comes out with. If she was my GP I would complain! As far as she is concerned ADHD is "all down to the parents"

I have 2 boys with an ADHD diagnosis amongst other things (Autism, LD, Tourettes) and the point is that without Guest Assistance Cards and the like, our children cannot access theme parks in the same way as a non-disabled child, and if they cannot access them, then they cannot get used to them and even begin to learn how to queue.

One of my sons has done a study through the Instititute of Psychiatry, and I can see where this Professor is coming from, and she does have a point, that we can teach our children to queue. But she is missing the point (probably because she has never been to a theme park with an ADHD child) that you need the passes to teach them in small steps.

We use the passes to get the children used to the ride. Once they are hooked, they are more likely to tolerate a short queue, since they are sure they will like the reward. Disney (as always) get it right in allowing you to use their passes in the Fast Pass Queue - you still queue, but for a short time.
We have a rule that you can use the pass once on a ride, then if you want to go again you queue.... the boys are getting much better, but it is SMALL STEPS.

Just like educating the general public, really:rolleyes:
 

The article is definitely sceptical of ADHD, implying that it's some sort of 'fashion' to have the diagnosis with the sentence:

At least one in 20 schoolchildren - 360,000 in total - is thought to have some degree of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), but some critics argue unruly behaviour is being overly medicalised.

and that 'unruly behaviour' is what ADHD really is!:scared1:

To label disabled children 'queue jumpers' is unforgivable. The article is so inflammatory.
 
The article is definitely sceptical of ADHD, implying that it's some sort of 'fashion' to have the diagnosis with the sentence:

At least one in 20 schoolchildren - 360,000 in total - is thought to have some degree of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), but some critics argue unruly behaviour is being overly medicalised.

It is appalling writing from the BBC, something I would epext from the Daily Mail. I wouldn't take seriously any claim that used the phase "some critics argue". There is no mention about who these critics are, it is a very biased article. I think you could complain and ask for them to provide the infomation on who these critics are so the reader can make an opinion them self's rather than been swayed by the "writer".
 
Speaking as a parent of a child with ADHD, I do have to say that I think people can be very quick to blame ADHD for their child's bad behaviour. I have a 6 year old who is extremely hyperactive but he most definitely does not have ADHD - however, because people know my DD has it, they will often say 'oh, he must have ADHD like his sister'. It drives me up the wall.
 
There is definitely 'abuse' of the ADHD diagnosis Wilma's bride I agree. My sister has a child who is full of beans (he's six), she was desperately trying to get him diagnosed with it - even though he has most definitely not got it! Eventually we talked sense into her, my nephew is just an active little soul who has difficult moments as all children his age do.:)
 
Our nephew has ADHD( he was also a premmie baby though at first appearences you wouldn't know that he's tall for his age) he is very immature about many things despite every family member trying to help him deal with the things in life he struggles with. The only person he really loved to relate to passed away on Boxing Day 2008 that was his Grandfather and male role mode, and he's been a big handful since then. He finds it difficult to talk about many things to anyone else and has had his share of fall outs with his mum but you expect a little stroppiness from any teenage boy. His lack of grasping an idea and thinking it through is only now showing him that his actions have consequences. He has had sessions where he's broken things and expected someone else to take the blame or fix them for him without him admitting what he's done. It drives his mum mad but she knows he doesn't understand like other kids do. It has taken it's toll on her health too she's on anti-depressants and tablets for high blood pressure. Our nephew is never going to achieve good qualifications when he leaves school but he does try to do well in practical things he's learning to grow vegetables and fruit and skills that he can physically use.
To be honest not that many kids with ADHD can wait for long periods of time for something.. our nephew struggles to see a movie through to the finish but he does try. Only those who have a child in their family with ADHD understand the full scope of how it affects those children medical professionals are entiteld to their opinion but parents know what's best for their child/children and journalists should back off and let families enjoy a couple of weeks together in less stressful circumstances where the whole family can join in the fun.:grouphug:
 
Our nephew has ADHD( he was also a premmie baby though at first appearences you wouldn't know that he's tall for his age) he is very immature about many things despite every family member trying to help him deal with the things in life he struggles with. The only person he really loved to relate to passed away on Boxing Day 2008 that was his Grandfather and male role mode, and he's been a big handful since then. He finds it difficult to talk about many things to anyone else and has had his share of fall outs with his mum but you expect a little stroppiness from any teenage boy. His lack of grasping an idea and thinking it through is only now showing him that his actions have consequences. He has had sessions where he's broken things and expected someone else to take the blame or fix them for him without him admitting what he's done. It drives his mum mad but she knows he doesn't understand like other kids do. It has taken it's toll on her health too she's on anti-depressants and tablets for high blood pressure. Our nephew is never going to achieve good qualifications when he leaves school but he does try to do well in practical things he's learning to grow vegetables and fruit and skills that he can physically use.
To be honest not that many kids with ADHD can wait for long periods of time for something.. our nephew struggles to see a movie through to the finish but he does try. Only those who have a child in their family with ADHD understand the full scope of how it affects those children medical professionals are entiteld to their opinion but parents know what's best for their child/children and journalists should back off and let families enjoy a couple of weeks together in less stressful circumstances where the whole family can join in the fun.:grouphug:

I totally agree.

Hopefully people will read threads like this and think twice about commenting on a child's behaviour or whether they perceive someone to be 'queue jumping'. My friend has serious mobility problems and she is able to go to the front of the queue at cinemas etc - hers is a very visible disability but she still gets comments.:sad2:
 
Overdiagnosis aside, I think that is surely better than ADHD being UNDERdiagnosed as used to be the way. I also think that when there is increased knowledge of any medical condition, and improved systems put in place to help those suffering from it, then it is almost inevitable that some will abuse these but generally not in large enough numbers for it to mean the system should be abandoned. I honestly believe that a lot of it boils down to people thinking that they can judge when someone is disabled. My mum recently got a blue badge, she has mobility and heart problems and usually uses a stick but still she gets looks of disgust from people when she parks in disabled bays... Luckily she has a sense of humour about it but I can imagine it'd be very hurtful for parents of a child with an 'invisible' disability.
 
I have had several discussions with people about kids with adhd and the general consenus seems to be 'in my day they were called naughty kids.' People seem to think that parents need to discplined their kids to correct the behavior and that adhd is a smokescreen.
 
I'm not sure ADHD is over diagnosed.

Quite often we work with families with children who are not diagnosed until they are in their teens, and are in trouble with the police or excluded from school, and have developed conduct disorders because their self esteem is so low. It is only after things come to a head that somebody thinks it might be helpful for them to see a paedicatrician and it turns out they have ADHD. They had it all along but because everyone just assumed they were naughty and lazy they just grew up being constantly punished for something they couldn't really help, and they get to the point where they don't bother trying to conform anymore.

In girls, who are often missed, it often comes out when they have mental health issues as teens due to their low self esteem.

Last year I was talking to our local police officer responsible for Youth Offending and Crime prevention. He has a fairly large patch of about a third of Herts. He told me that he has figures showing that over 70% of the children in our local Young Offenders Institute have a diagnosis of ADHD, AS or Tourette's Syndrome, but that the majority of them were only diagnosed once they were in the Youth Offenders Institute.
What a tragedy! Who knows how much better things would have been for those kids if their difficulties had been picked up sooner.
You don't get the BBC talking about how badly these kids have been let down, and how much it is costing our society, do you?

OK rant over!:scared1:
 
I'm not sure ADHD is over diagnosed.

Quite often we work with families with children who are not diagnosed until they are in their teens, and are in trouble with the police or excluded from school, and have developed conduct disorders because their self esteem is so low. It is only after things come to a head that somebody thinks it might be helpful for them to see a paedicatrician and it turns out they have ADHD. They had it all along but because everyone just assumed they were naughty and lazy they just grew up being constantly punished for something they couldn't really help, and they get to the point where they don't bother trying to conform anymore.

In girls, who are often missed, it often comes out when they have mental health issues as teens due to their low self esteem.

Last year I was talking to our local police officer responsible for Youth Offending and Crime prevention. He has a fairly large patch of about a third of Herts. He told me that he has figures showing that over 70% of the children in our local Young Offenders Institute have a diagnosis of ADHD, AS or Tourette's Syndrome, but that the majority of them were only diagnosed once they were in the Youth Offenders Institute.
What a tragedy! Who knows how much better things would have been for those kids if their difficulties had been picked up sooner.
You don't get the BBC talking about how badly these kids have been let down, and how much it is costing our society, do you?

OK rant over!:scared1:

Well said Leise. I fought my backside off to get my LEA to recognise my son's ADHD. I knew my son had something wrong from a toddler - his father has since been diagnosed as an adult - but the LEA wouldn't accept it until the psychiatrist stepped in thanks to my fantastic GP. By the time he was diagnosed at 8 going on 9 he had fallen way behind. He now has medication (only at school or times he HAS to concentrate) which I hate giving him but the difference is incredible. It is so sad that it goes undiagnosed to the extent that young people run into social and legal problems.:sad2:
 












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