Serious question on a sensitive topic...you know who I am

[NJ Mike]

Well a lot of people have seen me kid, when a guy comes into the surf spot and berrates the girls there. I mean one, "does anyone want me to be their boy" or "hi want to be mine" is ok, but if he continues to bother them, i'll usually jump in and bother them right back with "i'll be your boy" "you're a cute l" , and "come on dance with me" and stuff like that lol. And usually within 2 seconds they leave the room.

Now, people who know me know that i am not looking for a boy [seinfeld] not that there's anything wrong with that [/seinfeld] ...or a girl for that matter lol.

But i have never been warned or banned for it. So i would also agree that the problem probably lies in saying they werent a kid.

 

[u2aggie99]

Well, now I've heard everything.

Let me just say that the opinions of a certain number of individuals do not matter to the rest of the world, so if society allows this kind of behavior IRL, then I have nothing to offer. For the record, I have never encountered any gay people. I've been accused of being so, but it's entirely untrue.

I think we should all write letters to VMK and tell them to either abolish all the BF/GF hookups, or create separate rooms on VMK for the adult players.

Eventually, people are going to find ways to abuse VMK, and when they do, the admins are going to go, "This was a mistake. We're going to have to shut VMK down."

I agree. I think VMK should have a seperate rooms for ppl over 15. I read on the website that the game was designed for 8-14 yrs. If VMK had different rooms, wouldn't that be safer? So you wouldn't have a 37 year old guy asking out a 12 year old, even if its a girl or boy. I think that the whole gf/bf thing is stupid for something online. I had this guy come up to me and he was really creepy. He would follow me and wanted on my friend list. He was saying things to me that came out as ###. VMK staff came in and he was gone. Whatever VMK does, it better be quick. I was in a room last night with a bunch of friends and we were talking about stuff when we all got messages from staff saying "Its unacceptable behavior to pretend to have babies online." A lot of that has been going on. I dont have a really big or major issue with bf/gf stuff, but having babies, day care, getting "mer" is too much. We need to tell VMK staff, they are letting something blow away thats right in front of their own eyes, and it may end VMK...

 

[Captain Brain]

I agree. I think VMK should have a seperate rooms for ppl over 15. I read on the website that the game was designed for 8-14 yrs. If VMK had different rooms, wouldn't that be safer? So you wouldn't have a 37 year old guy asking out a 12 year old, even if its a girl or boy. I think that the whole gf/bf thing is stupid for something online. I had this guy come up to me and he was really creepy. He would follow me and wanted on my friend list. He was saying things to me that came out as ###. VMK staff came in and he was gone. Whatever VMK does, it better be quick. I was in a room last night with a bunch of friends and we were talking about stuff when we all got messages from staff saying "Its unacceptable behavior to pretend to have babies online." A lot of that has been going on. I dont have a really big or major issue with bf/gf stuff, but having babies, day care, getting "mer" is too much. We need to tell VMK staff, they are letting something blow away thats right in front of their own eyes, and it may end VMK...

I'm 14.Most of my friends are adults.If vmk has seperate rooms,I would like never be able to see my friends!So,if vmk does this,you should have 2 maps: one for people who are kids and want to be 'taken' and another forr mature responsible people.

Just my opinion.

Billy!

 

[DarkSideMoon]

i say a crackdown, if vmk bans people like adio and miniparis, they sure as ### better ban perverts that i have seen personally.

 

[cteddiesgirl]

OK. I didn't know who sponsored those days at the parks. But I do recall that several years ago a religious group (Sourthern Baptists I believe) did call for a boycott of all things Disney because of those days. And I think that there were other religious groups that did the same thing.


Anyways, I don't think that there will ever be separate rooms for adults in the game. And while personally, I don't care for the "are you taken" bit. I don't mind it so much. Or for the marriage, having kids, etc. As long as it doesn't get completely out of hand and vulgar.
I remember pretending to have boyfriends, getting married and having babies as a child. And I'm sure many of us here did. It's just a part of being a kid and having an imagination.

 

[MiakodaWDW]

The whole "separate rooms for kids and adults" thing is a good idea in theory, but it poses the problem that Captain Brain described. He is technically a "kid" (really a teen or young adult, but a kid in the eyes of us old ppl and vmk!), but a very mature one who has adult friends and does not run around asking if ppl are taken (at least I doubt it!) Maybe VMK could allow us to designate adults only rooms, but we can only let in ppl that we KNOW from Dis are adults, or like Captain, mature enough to handle adult conversation. And by adult conversation I don't mean anything sexual, just being able to ask for Dis title, age, serve and talk about alcholic drinks ( Surferrat), stuff that like that is desgined to keep kids safe but is harmless for adults. I want to know if my best VMK friend is 7 or 16 or 45, just because i like to have an idea of who I am talking to, and what I can say. Like, don't say big words or type too fast if it's a young kid. I think askiing if you are a kid or adult should not be a rule breaker, b/c knowing if someone is old, young, or 'middle' is not going to compromise anyone's safety. Neither will knowing their actual age for that matter, but I'm not even talking about knowing exact ages.

There should be rooms where adults and young adults can talk about stuff like school, work, their kids, etc. without getting banned. But like I said, it's good in theory, but probably wouldn't work in practice. What 10 year old would not be intrigued by a room that says "adults only"?

I know the spirit of VMK is that it is intended for children, and the adults that play are expected to take on the role of a child when they play (the way they look, act, interact with others, etc.) I try to do that but sometimes I just want to have an adult (normal) conversation and not worry about whether what I say (ex: "what kind of work do you do?")will get my banned!

~Mia~

 

[peoplemover913]

What truly bothers me is that VMK is so careful to ban folks who talk about their age or where they are from but I was is a room the other day and it was a "mummy" and "da da" and two "kids" in the room. The "da da" then proceeded to "hit" the kids with his belt and the "mummy" went after him with a "sharp thing". Is this acceptable behavior for kids? Or is it an indication of what is happening at home? In any case, I reported it. It was all sad, very sad.

 

[DarkSideMoon]

i agree with miakoda, there is a snowballs chance in heck that someone could find someone by them saying i am a 15 year old girl named sally in NY. how many 15 year old girls named sally in NY????

 

[MiakodaWDW]

i agree with miakoda, there is a snowballs chance in heck that someone could find someone by them saying i am a 15 year old girl named sally in NY. how many 15 year old girls named sally in NY????

Exactly, and that's even going too far. I'm talking about only knowing their age!!!!

"Ok, I'm a pedophile and now I know this girl is 9....that's all the info I need! Time to stalk....."

~Mia~

 

[Captain Brain]

Thanks for the back-up Mia.I'm not a kid but not yet an adult.I would like a room where people could talk about stuff without being banned.I would like to be able to serve 'ya grs' without being banned.

Most of you have met me by now.You know I don't run around yelling are you taken.I do however ask if someone will trade inferno.Heck,doesn't everyone ask at some point?I do have a room with a 'bear' in it.But,it could never be as nice as surferrat's.

My friends and I play around and 'steal' Purple Duck's feathers.(I gave them all back)My friends know that they can trust me with an inferno(PurpleDuck let me borrow hers last night)

Once I was in Central Plaza,a guest was say"are you taken" to everyone.I tried to talk to her and tell her not to ask that in vmk and that the staff like it.She responded with"but I want to!!"I responded as calmly as possible with "You will never meet these people in real-life so what's the point?"I guess I scared her away because she then left.

Part of the reasons that I love the dis vmk board is because,unlike on the fansite,people aren't taken and people here are much more responsible.

Well thanks for reading.I hope I didn't bore you to death.

--Billy

The whole "separate rooms for kids and adults" thing is a good idea in theory, but it poses the problem that Captain Brain described. He is technically a "kid" (really a teen or young adult, but a kid in the eyes of us old ppl and vmk!), but a very mature one who has adult friends and does not run around asking if ppl are taken (at least I doubt it!) Maybe VMK could allow us to designate adults only rooms, but we can only let in ppl that we KNOW from Dis are adults, or like Captain, mature enough to handle adult conversation. And by adult conversation I don't mean anything sexual, just being able to ask for Dis title, age, serve and talk about alcholic drinks ( Surferrat), stuff that like that is desgined to keep kids safe but is harmless for adults. I want to know if my best VMK friend is 7 or 16 or 45, just because i like to have an idea of who I am talking to, and what I can say. Like, don't say big words or type too fast if it's a young kid. I think askiing if you are a kid or adult should not be a rule breaker, b/c knowing if someone is old, young, or 'middle' is not going to compromise anyone's safety. Neither will knowing their actual age for that matter, but I'm not even talking about knowing exact ages.

There should be rooms where adults and young adults can talk about stuff like school, work, their kids, etc. without getting banned. But like I said, it's good in theory, but probably wouldn't work in practice. What 10 year old would not be intrigued by a room that says "adults only"?

I know the spirit of VMK is that it is intended for children, and the adults that play are expected to take on the role of a child when they play (the way they look, act, interact with others, etc.) I try to do that but sometimes I just want to have an adult (normal) conversation and not worry about whether what I say (ex: "what kind of work do you do?")will get my banned!

~Mia~

 

[BriarRosie]

I know Disney has the "gay day" b/c I have been (I am bisexual and most of my friends are gay), but I did not think it was sponsored by Disney.

Anyway, thanks for your responses! I'm still mad that she didn't even get a warning first....but I hope you guys are right and it's about the "are you a kid" thing.

~Mia~

You're right, Gay Days aren't sponsored by Disney, just as the December
meets that RADP newsgroup, DIS, and MouseFest have aren't. All of those
types of meets are planned by people outside of Disney and like to meet up
and socialize at Disney. That's it in a nutshell.

And count me in the group that thinks the ban was for violation of the
"Are you a kid?" question.

 

[BriarRosie]

Well, now I've heard everything.

Let me just say that the opinions of a certain number of individuals do not matter to the rest of the world, so if society allows this kind of behavior IRL, then I have nothing to offer. For the record, I have never encountered any gay people. I've been accused of being so, but it's entirely untrue.

Have you been to Walt Disney World? If so, you've probably encountered
plenty of gay cast members. But you probably didn't know they're gay.
And when you get older and meet new people, you'll probably have a few
gay friends.

Many of the gay friends I have I met in Disney online groups like this one.
You'll find that most Disney fans, gay or straight, are fun people.

 

[MiakodaWDW]

Have you been to Walt Disney World? If so, you've probably encountered
plenty of gay cast members. But you probably didn't know they're gay.
And when you get older and meet new people, you'll probably have a few
gay friends.

Many of the gay friends I have I met in Disney online groups like this one.
You'll find that most Disney fans, gay or straight, are fun people.

Plus, you have "encountered" me! At least virtually. I have a man but I like girls too.....

~Mia~

 

[tinkcollector]

Wow, you have really opened up a can of worms for me. I appreciate honesty. I think our world has caused so many of our problems by not accepting, and allowing folks to be themselves. I too was corrected when someone asked me if I was a "kid". My ansewer was no, I'll soon be as old as Disneyland. I was soon alerted that I could not reveal my age, and that it was not safe for me. Sort, of a canned response, don't you think. Well, anyway I only hope that the way you were treated was because of the "are you a kid" thing. I am a wowan, married with kids, and I love my man, but I have no problems with anyones sexuallity. I've taught my kids that we are all different and what "floats your boat" is okay. That how you treat people and love life is the important factor here. The tough questions are when you have a 4 year old that sees a man walking down the street who is not a police officer and he has handcuffs hanging from his belt...try explaing that kind of choice to a kid. Well, I did my best and that kid seems pretty well adjusted today. I editted a word I used after thinking about it, I hope I don't get booted from here.

 

[GBShorts]

OK. I didn't know who sponsored those days at the parks. But I do recall that several years ago a religious group (Sourthern Baptists I believe) did call for a boycott of all things Disney because of those days. And I think that there were other religious groups that did the same thing.


Anyways, I don't think that there will ever be separate rooms for adults in the game. And while personally, I don't care for the "are you taken" bit. I don't mind it so much. Or for the marriage, having kids, etc. As long as it doesn't get completely out of hand and vulgar.
I remember pretending to have boyfriends, getting married and having babies as a child. And I'm sure many of us here did. It's just a part of being a kid and having an imagination.

The southern baptists boycotted the fact that Disney allowed this to take place in their parks... Their stance was that turning a blind eye was the same as condoning it.

Not my opinion, just telling you why they SB's boycotted.

That wasn't a fun time to work for disney...had people coming into our store screaming about how evil disney was and such.

Don't know if that boycott is still in effect or not.

 

[MiakodaWDW]

Wow, you have really opened up a can of worms for me. I appreciate honesty. I think our world has caused so many of our problems by not accepting, and allowing folks to be themselves. I too was corrected when someone asked me if I was a "kid". My ansewer was no, I'll soon be as old as Disneyland. I was soon alerted that I could not reveal my age, and that it was not safe for me. Sort, of a canned response, don't you think. Well, anyway I only hope that the way you were treated was because of the "are you a kid" thing. I am a wowan, married with kids, and I love my man, but I have no problems with anyones sexuallity. I've taught my kids that we are all different and what "floats your boat" is okay. That how you treat people and love life is the important factor here. The tough questions are when you have a 4 year old that sees a man walking down the street who is not a police officer and he has handcuffs hanging from his belt...try explaing that kind of choice to a kid. Well, I did my best and that kid seems pretty well adjusted today. I editted a word I used after thinking about it, I hope I don't get booted from here.

That is great to hear. I'm so glad you raise your kids that way! I would have just "I don't know honey" about the handcuffs LOL.

~Mia~

 

[Empare]

Interesting topic here. I don't really like the whole b/f g/f scene in vmk. You never know what kind of person you are "hooking up" with. I may not have any kids yet but I am protective over most kids in general. I see absolutely nothing wrong with the gay lifestyle. I personally promote individuality. An adult room would be cool. Not a complete seperation from vmk kids but jst one room we could talk and chill in.

 

[BobRichmond]

The southern baptists boycotted the fact that Disney allowed this to take place in their parks...
...Don't know if that boycott is still in effect or not.

The main reason the boycott started was that Disney extended the same benefits to gay couples as they gave to married couples.

The boycott was finally officially dropped this year.

 

[mtlhddoc2]

I wonder how many "boyfriends" are actually girlfriends and visa versa, we all know how to make boy/girl mules.....

 

[tolkien7]

That is an interesting notion - I have a boy mule and girls are forever trying to pick him up (he is quite cute). I suppose people could hide behind a mule.

I think this is an interesting thread and thought I would stick in my 2 cents, which is that the ban probably resulted from the "not a kid" comment, which seems to be the opinion of many others as well.

Kudos to Miakoda for bringing this to everyone's attention and for revealing herself. Woot, girl!