Selling of the fastpass....

[UNCFanatik]

You are truly amazing. You do realize that in a courtroom, one can offer into evidence events that one has witnessed, but one cannot offer into evidence their opinion as to why those events took place - speculation is not evidence.

Seeing a character and reporting that is useful to others. Now, we do get trolls from time to time who probably report sightings that did not happen; that's okay.

Someone trying to tell me that fastpasses were gone due to late returners (a) doesn't make sense and (b) is impossible for them to know.

More and more, I get the feeling that you are just keeping on at this for the sake of keeping on. Surely, no rational person can believe that the two types of reports are equivalent?

we have had third hand reports of the following here on the Dis post FP enforcement:

1. FPs are available later in the day.
2. FP return lines are longer
3. FP return lines are shorter
4. FP return lines are the same
5. FPs at certain attractions have increased.
6. some CMs are letting people in 5 minutes before FP return time
7. Some CMs are letting people up to 15 minutes after return times.

Just because the concept of late FP users affecting availability of FPs at TSMM and Soarin doesnt make sense to you doesnt mean it didnt happen. If it things had to make sense to you to make it so then we would be in a lot of trouble. Disney seemed to think that late FP usage did affect other guests.

In a courtroom there is circumstantial evidence as well that is admitted. I guess that doesnt make sense to you either but It does happen.

 

[UNCFanatik]

I made a prediction and ended the article with "time will tell". I did not claim to have sales data. I love how you invent statements and attribute them to me.

and then in this later post YOU said it came true:

http://www.disboards.com/showpost.php?p=45173315&postcount=162

People do rush around the parks now and buy fewer Buzz chirts, er, shirts.

And I love how you deny these statements that you make. Clearly you not ONLY predict a decline in sales you say it has now came true.

 

[t_catt11]

we have had third hand reports of the following here on the Dis post FP enforcement:

1. FPs are available later in the day.
2. FP return lines are longer
3. FP return lines are shorter
4. FP return lines are the same
5. FPs at certain attractions have increased.
6. some CMs are letting people in 5 minutes before FP return time
7. Some CMs are letting people up to 15 minutes after return times.

Just because the concept of late FP users affecting availability of FPs at TSMM and Soarin doesnt make sense to you doesnt mean it didnt happen. If it things had to make sense to you to make it so then we would be in a lot of trouble. Disney seemed to think that late FP usage did affect other guests.

In a courtroom there is circumstantial evidence as well that is admitted. I guess that doesnt make sense to you either but It does happen.

Which means that you have conflicting reports, none of which can be actually tied to late fastpass usage. By your logic, I could cherry pick the reports that say the lines are longer and claim that eliminating late fastpass actually makes the lines worse. How would my position have more validity than yours? THERE IS NO ACTUAL DATA TYING THE TWO TOGETHER.

Circumstantial evidence is allowed. Opinion and speculation is not.

 

[t_catt11]

and then in this later post YOU said it came true:

http://www.disboards.com/showpost.php?p=45173315&postcount=162

And I love how you deny these statements that you make. Clearly you not ONLY predict a decline in sales you say it has now came true.

Anecdote, even more to the point, one intended to be lighthearted (note my intention reprint of the spelling error). I have never claimed to have WDW sales information. I have read quite a few complaints about having to rush to make a FP window, about how it can be an inconvenience. I am certain those people are not stopping in their rush to buy "chirts".

But I do not claim to possess WDW sales numbers. Once again, you bounce off of the actual issue in an attempt to attack me. Not that anyone is surprised.

 

[mattsdragon]

I just heard that at Walt's Disney World, they have this new thing called the Fasts Passes.

You pay extra money and you get to go to the head of the line on ANY ride. And all you need to do is stay at the deluxe resorts and you can buy this.

Some chick named Stacey on the TV said that.

 

[Cyrano]

This thread is no closed as some posters cannot discuss without arguing and debating.

If you have stepped over the line then you should expect a PM when time allows