Selling of the fastpass....

[eliza61]

You know you've thought of it. You've got that Soarin fastpass and there are no more available. Would you sell it if you had a buyer?

On the other hand if someone came up to you and offered you their Soarin fastpass for 5 bucks each would you take it? Saving an hour and a half in line would be super nice.

I know this practice is TOTALLY forbidden by Disney and have NEVER done it or even come close. Just wanna hear if it's crossed your minds and the ole "what if" scenario.

Nope. I've given valuable tickets away if I couldn't use them. I kinda enjoy random acts of kindness. Last month I had 4 Phillies tickets that I could not use so I gave them away to a coworker. Why sell them? 80 bucks is really not going to change my life all that much.

 

[mjp12831]

The point is that the late FP users all hung their hat on they werent doing anything against Disney policy but yet many gave away FPs which is against Disney policy. Cant help but see the irony and hypocrisy in that position.

Also, Disney doesnt need a secondary distributor for FPs or ADRs in the past but many feel like they need to act as such in order to feel better about themselves by spreading "pixie dust". They seem to not care about Disney policy when it comes to that but are quick to point out they have done nothing wrong with late FP usage

You seem like a particularly angry person, your posts are mostly confrontational, and I'm not sure why I continue to engage you, yet here I am doing it again.

This is a silly analogy you are making - gifting unusable FP is simply a nice thing to do, and to make a case against it because it is "against policy" to me shows that you don't get what WDW is all about and what makes it different from any other theme park.

The policy of "non-transferable" is likely in place to prevent abuses like selling, or hiring someone to be a FP runner for you. It is definately not in place because my 7yo is too tired to stay in the park.

I used to use FP after the return window, I will still give away FP we're not going to use, and we will ask to check into our resort before 1:00 pm if our room is available. Call me inconsistent and a rule breaker, but nothing you are going to say is going to convince me that any of this was wrong.

 

[mattsdragon]

I am so sick an tired of the fastpass threads and the inane arguements that break out over them.

I won't even speculate what the OP's true intention was, seeing as the OP has only been on the boards for a month, and half of his/her posts are actually in this thread (infer what you will by my above statement).

It's like the Hatfields and McCoys.

So, let's change the subject, but keep it fast pass related. . .do you like the color of the card stock used on the FP tickets, or do you think it should be change. And if so, what color should they use, and should the dimensions be changed? I mean, those little buggers can get lost in a pocket full of lint and receipts.

 

[UNCFanatik]

You seem like a particularly angry person, your posts are mostly confrontational, and I'm not sure why I continue to engage you, yet here I am doing it again.

This is a silly analogy you are making - gifting unusable FP is simply a nice thing to do, and to make a case against it because it is "against policy" to me shows that you don't get what WDW is all about and what makes it different from any other theme park.

The policy of "non-transferable" is likely in place to prevent abuses like selling, or hiring someone to be a FP runner for you. It is definately not in place because my 7yo is too tired to stay in the park.

I used to use FP after the return window, I will still give away FP we're not going to use, and we will ask to check into our resort before 1:00 pm if our room is available. Call me inconsistent and a rule breaker, but nothing you are going to say is going to convince me that any of this was wrong.

Previous hoarding of FPs so that other guests can not get FPs is an abuse of the system. The same way it was abuse when people hoarded CRT ressies in the past.

And now you are an interpreter of Disney policy and know exactly why the FPs say they are non-transferable? But i guess that Disney policy doesnt apply to you?

 

[mjp12831]

Previous hoarding of FPs so that other guests can not get FPs is an abuse of the system. The same way it was abuse when people hoarded CRT ressies in the past.

And now you are an interpreter of Disney policy and know exactly why the FPs say they are non-transferable? But i guess that Disney policy doesnt apply to you?

You have discoverd my motive - I went to the park specifically to obtain as may FP as I could so that you weren't able to get as many.

I can only hope to one day be as rightous as you are, but until that day I will continue to be a sinner and give away FP that I won't use because my daughter got a migrane and needed to go back to the resort. To me that is the essence of what WDW is about and what makes it special.

 

[DeaverTex]

I wonder what the going rate for a FP would be? It would be ride dependent, of course. Who knows? I could become a FP magnate. The Fastpass King. I could get a blonde (has to be a blonde so Mrs. Tex couldn't do it) to stand beside me and nod occasionally while I did TV spots -- If I can't give you the lowest price on your fastpass, I'm just gonna give it to you!! (Think about it for a second.)

Seriously, though, I don't see an issue with giving them away. All a FP is, is a reserved spot in a short line. How does it matter who shows up with the claim ticket to take that spot?

I think that the non-transferable language is there to keep folks from getting the idea of cornering the market on, say, TSM FP and then selling them. Now THAT would be a truly disgusting thing to do, and I would take great pleasure in introducing the perpetrator to WDW security. (Or at least to a CM who'd take it from there.)

 

[t_catt11]

Previous hoarding of FPs so that other guests can not get FPs is an abuse of the system. The same way it was abuse when people hoarded CRT ressies in the past.

And now you are an interpreter of Disney policy and know exactly why the FPs say they are non-transferable? But i guess that Disney policy doesnt apply to you?

How exactly could one hoard fastpasses under the old system? Unless you somehow came up with a way to circumvent the inherent ties that govern when you could get your next pass, then I'd offer that you are misusing the term "hoard."

The days of late fastpass use are over. Goodie for you. Claim what you want, but printed Disney operating procedures allowed for late (but never early) fastpass use. That has now changed.

As for giving away passes - you are missing the point. I would agree that one ought not get passes for a ride if they don't intend to use them, but (a) if they change their mind, where is the harm in giving said passes away and (b) who would actually take the time to pull passes in this manner, anyway?

Non transferable is there to prevent you from selling them. CMs redistribute passes all the time. I've had a CM commend us for giving passes away.

You seem to have an unhealthy hangup with rules. Chill.

 

[POOHsie]

The point is that the late FP users all hung their hat on they werent doing anything against Disney policy but yet many gave away FPs which is against Disney policy. Cant help but see the irony and hypocrisy in that position.

Also, Disney doesnt need a secondary distributor for FPs or ADRs in the past but many feel like they need to act as such in order to feel better about themselves by spreading "pixie dust". They seem to not care about Disney policy when it comes to that but are quick to point out they have done nothing wrong with late FP usage

One shouldn't denigrate people who simply try to pass along the magic and goodwill of Disney. You seem obsessed with "written rules." You should be equally concerned with "unwritten rules," also known as "common sense."

 

[g-dad66]

In essence, it is the same thing at the root. Acting as a distributor of a Disney product.

In the past, people have admittedly hoarded FPs for the purpose of spreading "pixie dust". It is not their place to do so any more than the CRT "angels" a while back

I've never heard anyone say that they got Fast Passes with no intent to use them, but solely for the purpose of giving them away.

I've also never heard of Disney being concerned if people gave away unexpired Fast Passes. But I've heard of Disney trying to end the selling of Fast Passes on eBay in the past (which caused them to make the date more prominent on the FP and instruct CMs to check the dates more carefully).

More important, if you can't see the moral difference between giving something away and selling it (regardless of rules), then nothing I can say further is going to make any difference.

Even more important, the OP has clarified that selling FP is not something he/she would ever do, so the question of whether anyone has ever thought about it seems rather pointless.

Most important of all, I'm still kicking myself for getting sucked into a pointless discussion. And I'm now outta here.

 

[billdob62]

Look for some really miserable looking people and give them the ones you are not using. Could make them have a great day and perhaps they will pass along that kindness.

 

[goofyernmost]

While we are at it, what is Disney's policy on the sale of FPs?

I think someone in the front office is thinking...If someone is stupid enough to pay someone that got it free to ride on a free 7 minute ride just to avoid a slight wait in line...well, "here's your sign" and have a good time.

how ironic is it that FP late users always trumpet the "I didnt do anything against Disney policy" but yet many gave away their FPs which is against Disney policy because on the FP it says its non-transferable. I guess the same CMs that told them they could use them late also told them they could give them to other guests.

I don't believe that Disney has a policy on giving away a Fastpass. It's free to begin with, it doesn't add any additional to the line and did I mention it's free to begin with. Why would they have a problem with it? No income was lost and as long as it's in the same window it makes absolutely no difference. Now if Disney decides to charge for them...they will throw all kinds of policy at it. Non-transferable is kind of a boiler plate phrase the Disney attaches to everything, but in this case it might be to discourage "sale" of it. Unless you can assure me that every Fastpass you got went correctly to the the Park Ticket holder it was issued under then it has no legs. I might buy a Park Ticket, but until it is used it is a free agent. I can buy tickets and give them as gifts...what is the difference between that and Fastpass? Morally, if Disney created a system that lends itself to so much policy abuse...it's their problem! I know that will be interpreted as "he will sell a fastpass"! No he won't because I don't go to Disney to wheel and deal, I go for fun. Wouldn't even cross my mind, and if it did I would be to embarrassed to ask anyone to pay for something like that, I got for free.

 

[mill4023]

Previous hoarding of FPs so that other guests can not get FPs is an abuse of the system. The same way it was abuse when people hoarded CRT ressies in the past.

And now you are an interpreter of Disney policy and know exactly why the FPs say they are non-transferable? But i guess that Disney policy doesnt apply to you?

You seriously need to find a better way to occupy your time.

It's great that you want to follow the rules. But it's also important to think for yourself and try to use just a little bit of common sense.

I believe you used the word ethics or morals in one of your posts. That's just about the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Disney policies have nothing to do with ethics or morals. Choosing to ignore a policy is not automatically immoral or unethical. It depends on what the policy is.

If you seriously believe that giving away a FP you won't use is morally wrong, you certainly won't find any support for that opinion here. But I suspect you don't actually believe that. Some people seem to enjoy arguing for the sake of arguing.

 

[kamik86]

I'm in with the group that would give them away.

I have done this once... The first time I rode test track. We all got fast passes but we had a smaller child that didn't want to ride, my mom didn't want to ride, and DH was going back and forth.

We get there, DH doesn't want to so I ride with my older two nieces on our fast passes but we still have 3 more to do it again if we want... since everyone else got a fast pass on their ticket.

None of us thought the ride was that cool. But by this point the line was huge. So we found a random family of 3 and gave it to them.

I would still do this again. We don't give them away often though as we don't have kids so plans don't often change much.

 

[Momtomouselover]

Jealous?

Nope, not at all. Why do you ask? This would actually be one of the reasons I would consider staying Deluxe again. I am always happy to pay more for something of value and to me this would have value. Of course, I would only buy it IF authorized and sold to me from Disney (as I said previously).

 

[kamik86]

For those that say its against disney policy I wonder what would happen if you went to the CM at the front of the line and said "I'm not going to use these so when the time comes you can give them to a family about to get in line if you want" Would the CM be allowed to give them?

 

[disEAR]

Wow.. Talk about your touchy/heated subjects...

fyi: I would never sell a fast pass, never thought about selling a fast pass, nor would I ever buy a fast pass from someone trying to sell a fast pass. (I've actually had someone offer to sell me theirs)

I would and have however, give a fast pass away if I knew I wasn't going to get around to using them. I wouldn't purposely hoard fast passes however just to give away.. :/

This topic is nonsense. But I replied anyway, so I must be nonsensical.

 

[DisneyLoverUSA]

No, it has never crossed my mind to sell our Soarin' fast passes, but we have given some away on several different occasions.

The last time we had some unused fast passes it was in April and we were about to leave and were on the lookout for a couple walking INTO the park as we were leaving and we finally spotted a man and woman walking towards us and when we stopped them I said "Excuse me, have you ridden Soarin yet?" And they kind of looked at me sideways then looked at each other like they were unsure of my motives and they finally said "Um, NO" SO I told them "Well, the reason I ask you is because we have 2 unused fast passes for it that become valid in about 15 minutes and you can have them if you think you will use them" AT that point they realized we weren't some creepy ppl TRYING TO SELL THEM a fast pass and they happily accepted.

And on the other hand, I would also never buy one. I go straight to Soarin right as I walk in the park at opening and get right on the ride, then as I get off I get a fast pass to come back. I have never waited more than 10 minutes to ride Soarin or any ride for that matter.

If Disney were going to allow selling of fast passes they would do it themselves I assure you.

I am curious though why the mods allowed this thread to go on so long seeing as how it is discussing things not allowed by the DIS. I haven't read through all the responses so maybe a mod chimed in there some where and said something, not sure.

But it seems strange that your first post on the boards would be something pot stirring like this.

 

[Momtomouselover]

This is definitely off the subject but why are people on here and the Dis being so mean to each other? I mean the OP asked a hypothetical and then even clarified that he/she would not do this but just had the "random thought" while skipping past the line that maybe some would pay for a FP but that doesn't make the OP evil or immoral or whatever. Why not just either answer the question or decide you don't want to partake in such a hypothetical question. Why do we have to break down into arguments and being mean to each other. Geesh!

Gosh, in the last couple days I personally have pretty much been called "negative", "jealous", someone who is looking for something for nothing, a "hater", a person who feels entitled, and the authenticity of what I said has been questioned, etc...why? I guess because our family experienced a less than magical trip and I mentioned this on a few posts with some examples and then everyone in their defense of the great Disney decided it was ok to label and or attack me. Why not just say..."sorry you had a less than magical trip" or "oh my, sounds like you needed some pixie dust" or even "hope that doesn't happen to us" or just go on your merry way and ignore my post. By the way, to those that did say something like the above THANK YOU!! To those that didn't I don't really care that much but I do wish that people would be a bit more positive and nicer to each other. I guess this board is just some peoples outlet for "Mean Girls" syndrome and is made so much easier by being able to hide in our homes behind our little computers.

Original OP for the record I don't think you were trying to be deceitful, malicious, or immoral (LOL!).

Here's hoping that our next trip is magical as are all of yours!

 

[Wadecool]

But it seems strange that your first post on the boards would be something pot stirring like this.

It's not strange at all. There's a term for posters whose first post stirs the pot...

 

[jrtoastyman]

I can't imagine taking the time out of my trip to hawk Fastpasses for $5, but even if it were permitted, and even if they were going for more, I'd rather just make someone's day by giving them away if I wasn't going to use them. Done that many times, in fact.