we are still new to this game. we have not explored this
option but just by reading here, it isn't near the " ballpark"
on what we were told. not even close! for example, we
asked our guide about going & staying in new york over
thanksgiving weekend. "easy". [ however, there were
several posters here asking about this & the responses
were more trouble than what it is worth. & the experts
here made it clear, be much better making your own
deal outside your points. ]
on this site, i read with interest posts about the trades
so we can learn, if ever. there seem to be some very
excellent experts posting here. just by the ways they
explained their choices, would indicated they are nearly
100% accurate. why don't dvc hired the same quality
persons?
then there the other time-sales owners expressing what
they are getting. some ask about their trading powers
which tell their locations. some are places that are
not so good. {to us]. one thing that is confusing to me,
they are not allowed if they are close to olrando but
how about dvc in s. carolina?
now there a flood of dvc owners @ ssr. it figures many would
like to trade out @ 7mos.. why should these traders, be
allowed before them? that doesn't make sense.
projecting your judgment is lacking my true feelings. it is like being
told something that was wrong , does not mean the person
was lying or deceitful. however, when one is paid then it
changes one expectations. [ like when a doctor operates on the
wrong limb, his intentions/values system will not protect him
in court.]. we have been doing corrective measures from the
start. however, i have experienced some very unprofessional
dvc workers, attempting the same kind of distraction. i am
still "discovering" so my focus is learning the data & the best
way/s to process it. [glad i kept records of all my encounters
& their names.] also if what i have been reading is accurate
( & i think it is) , then there is room for dvc to make changes
where they can benefit the owners.
i think it is funny, whenever something could be negative/positive
per one's side of the fence....the reaction is to either claimed
dvc is just another time share or it is something better. what we
want "it" to be, is what the disney rep. told us before we paid
them our monies. the main part is doing our future wdw vacations,
in a room that is clean & operational, and not having to
worry about others being a danger to my family. [ even @ wdw,
safety is something to watch out for especially what we ran
into @ blt.]
ok, dean? what do you think the current situation between the
dvc & rci? what needing improving if you was in charge? what
do you think is wrong with the trades that it such a poor
choice? [ not including cruises as that is self evident ] . and
what would you suggest? oh, if dvc is just another timeshare,
would it be unethical that guides never informed potential
buyer? and do you have any idea how many others timeshares
are trying to trade in vs. dvc trading out?
i have my "ears" on.
I pulled your post from the other thread because I felt it a better position to work from. I think we both have to realize that our philosophy is different, believe I am more technical and practical, esp where true ethics are not involved.
As for the guides talking about exchanges, this is a great example of our philosophy differences. To me, anyone should at least question the answers they can't confirm for themselves when they are given by a salesperson. I treat it much like I would a car sales situation. On top of that I don't think most of the sales force are all that versed in the exchange situation so honest answers are often wrong or not flavored correctly when it comes to exchanges, even the 7 month window reservations.
As for the idea that DVC members who own at different resorts should have first crack at everything before it goes to RCI, BVTC, etc; we'll simply have to disagree but I will tell you it's unrealistic to expect it. These are all separate resorts banded together, not a single resort.
By your own admission you are not well versed in timeshares in general and the exchange system. To look at something that is desirable to you or is not and assume it's that way to the masses puts you in a situation of being wrong more often than not. When looking at demand and trade power, one has to realize there may be factors you don't know like special events or demand from other countries or groups. For example, the Caribbean is low season in summer and High season Xmas to Easter even though school is in. Demand is determined in part by the resort quality, location, the general demand of the area and the supply. The supply side is where Orlando falls down because there is not only a lot of supply, but many great resorts. As for the regional block, that is DVC's choice to try to force people to buy rather than trade in from local options. They picked it up from II because it was II's major deterrent and they brought it with them to RCI. They apparently feel it suites their needs better than the 1 in 4 type rule that many resorts use with RCI.
DVC IS just another timeshare, but a very nice one with a good system overall. However, it is not perfect and there are other good timeshares and systems as well.
As for the current setup between RCI and DVC, I think it stinks. Partly because most ANY top end option is a poor vehicle for trading and partly because of the limitations of the system. That does not mean there are not positive aspects, there are. These include the search firsts option and the fact that one doesn't have to pay for an RCI membership and unlike many systems, there are apparently not hidden ways of paying for it that everyone is responsible for. The negatives are that most any trade is a downtrade, that the reservation & cancellation options are far more negative than direct RCI members, lack of direct access, lack of the ability to uptrade unit size and lack of online access to cover most of the negatives.
I think one of the problems is that there is no situation perfect for everyone. DVC negotiated a great deal for them but not for the members. They have rental options and they have control, those are the 2 most important issues to DVD. The current system is likely better for the one who doesn't plan to exchange but wants options and for the one time exchange. Allowing direct access/membership would be better for those more interested in exchanging regularly. But at the end of the day, the very nature and cost of DVC makes it unlikely to be a good choice for exchanging even in the best situation simply due to the costs involved and the fact that most deposits are mediocre from a demand standpoint. As a min a MUCH cheaper timeshare will be able to trade as well or better in many situations therefore with less overall risk.
IF DVC members were allowed direct access and direct deposit options, they could further control their "costs" and trade power. For example, if you wanted Maui, maybe you'd deposit HH summer 2 BR or if you wanted Branson, maybe you'd deposit an adventure OKW or BWV standard studio. Currently an early Dec 2 BR at BCV would get you a max of 18 TPU RCI points (I've ignored adjustments based on when it was deposited) where Xmas would be 49. I got 60 from a MB 2 BR 4th of July this year (X3), a 2 BR 4th of July DVC HH unit only gets 33, less than the Marriott Monarch the same week by one and only 1 more than the Marriott across the harbour.
I hope this helps.
, thanks for responding. 
