Security Background Check - Did You Know?

[com_op_2000]

That during the purchase process for DVC or Annual Pass; Disney runs a security background check on you?

For the Disaster Recovery part of my job I got a briefing today from Disney Security/Business Continuity teams and during the presentation they mention both of these specific items.

Disney did state that if they found something that they did not like in the background check; they will meet you at the gate (Annual Pass) the first time you use the pass or the DVC resort (DVC check-in), return your funds, and then escort you off property.

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

I have failed to notice a place where they ask for your approval to do that? Is that no longer required in this day and age? Anyone can run a background check without your permission? Although without finger prints I don't know how thorough it is, however, if this is really being done on every DVC and AP purchaser I'm afraid I'm rather miffed to put it mildly.

 

[TheMick424]

It is in the purchase agreement for direct purchase (section 24). I asked about it during our recent direct add-on.

 

[Maistre Gracey]

Sounds fishy. Why would they wait, possibly several months, until you flew across the country to check into your resort.
In addition, the only true background check is a CHRC which requires figureprints sent to the FBI.

 

[we"reofftoneverland]

That's crazy. They might as well tell you up front what would result in a ban to save people's time. A felony?

 

[disney junky]

I suspect there are a lot of areas where your background is being checked, unknown to you.

 

[kniquy]

I have no problem with it seeing that i have no issues. I see it as an element of safety they are trying to provide. I can see how they would be able to check on those who are US citizens but what about all the people from other countries buying - how are they really able to do back ground checks on them. Do they really have access to criminal records in foreign countries?

 

[Cyberc1978]

I failed to understand why?

If Disney don’t want to sell direct to you, you always have the option to buy resale.

In terms of park access you might not be able to get an AP but just buy regular tix.

 

[BillPA]

Did I miss it, is today April 1st?

 

[LYSE]

The question is how effective is it really? My guess it's just checking what info they have against a terror watch list.

Seriously doubt felons are being turned down while they mistakenly hire pedophiles to work at the parks.

 

[keishashadow]

I have failed to notice a place where they ask for your approval to do that? Is that no longer required in this day and age? Anyone can run a background check without your permission? Although without finger prints I don't know how thorough it is, however, if this is really being done on every DVC and AP purchaser I'm afraid I'm rather miffed to put it mildly.

They have ‘a’ fingerprint associated with tix/APH. Yes, i realize not a full set, just tossing it out there. Was never happy with that aspect on principle

As for watch list, ha! I hope they have refined their ID processes .

my DH & then minor DS both have same first & last names. Many years after 9-11, they would both get pulled for extra security at the airports, up & including visiting ‘the room’. Only when they obtained passports did that stop. This was prior to pre-check being offered. Not sure if having passports cured the issue or it was fact that the very common name may have fallen off the bad boy list.

 

[crvetter]

They have ‘a’ fingerprint associated with tix/APH

Disney claims the fingerprint is only used to verify the person using the ticket/AP and nothing else. Plus they also say the fingerprint is degraded in a way that would prevent it from being used for "true" identity verification. I would suspect consumer watchdog and privacy advocate groups would come down hard if this wasn't true. Also you can opt out of the fingerprint for a picture instead. The "numerical" value is the degraded storage.

Quoted from Disney's website

"In order to use Ticket Tag, you simply place your finger on a reader. The system, which utilizes the technology of biometrics, takes an image of your finger, converts the image into a unique numerical value and immediately discards the image. The numerical value is recalled when you use Ticket Tag with the same ticket to re-enter or visit another Park. Ticket Tag does not store fingerprints."

https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/faq/my-disney-experience/my-magic-plus-privacy/

 

[keishashadow]

Disney claims the fingerprint is only used to verify the person using the ticket/AP and nothing else. Plus they also say the fingerprint is degraded in a way that would prevent it from being used for "true" identity verification. I would suspect consumer watchdog and privacy advocate groups would come down hard if this wasn't true. Also you can opt out of the fingerprint for a picture instead. The "numerical" value is the degraded storage.

Quoted from Disney's website

"In order to use Ticket Tag, you simply place your finger on a reader. The system, which utilizes the technology of biometrics, takes an image of your finger, converts the image into a unique numerical value and immediately discards the image. The numerical value is recalled when you use Ticket Tag with the same ticket to re-enter or visit another Park. Ticket Tag does not store fingerprints."

https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/faq/my-disney-experience/my-magic-plus-privacy/

Thanks, yes, i’m Aware of what they say.

 

[crvetter]

Thanks, yes, i’m Aware of what they say.

Okay just wanted to pass it along. Also didn't want a major concern by members reading in passing that might not know what the real Privacy Policy is on this topic of finger printing for park entrance. I'm fairly certain Disney would be in big trouble (by consumers and the government entities) if they didn't treat bio-metric data in the way they claim to.

 

[Chuck S]

I doubt they actually use a decent fingerprint. On my last trip I was only able to enter the park one day out of six without a scanner issue. They continually had to reset my profile...

 

[jo-jo]

Why would they only run it on AP holders vs regular tickets holder? And where does it say on the AP purchase page that this will be done?

 

[crvetter]

I doubt they actually use a decent fingerprint. On my last trip I was only able to enter the park one day out of six without a scanner issue. They continually had to reset my profile...

Yeah they do degrade the fingerprint by mapping it to a numerical value based on some algorithm and key features they look for. Their false flag for fingerprints being identical between two people is probably high since its meant to capture fraud, not to preform background checks and criminals. Plus true finger print matching is a poor science.

 

[crvetter]

Why would they only run it on AP holders vs regular tickets holder? And where does it say on the AP purchase page that this will be done?

My guess is it's because you are maintaining an extended relationship with Disney. Also they aren't true "background" checks as most would think. They are background checks from the Consumer Reporting Agencies. So very mild in a sense and mostly to deal with identity fraud, IMO. Also I'm sure Disney runs your name internally to see if you have ever been banned from any park. In short, it isn't Disney running your name through the FBI and state police like TV shows present background checks.

Now if you want Club 33 membership my understanding is a thorough background check is ran there. In fact they have it listed as one of the conditions for being admitted as a member.

 

[jo-jo]

So it's a credit check, not a security check?

And if someone had a Fico score of 600, they can't buy an AP?


What happens if someone is buying an AP with gift cards for a minor?

 

[crvetter]

So it's a credit check, not a security check?

And if someone had a Fico score of 600, they can't buy an AP?


What happens if someone is buying an AP with gift cards for a minor?

No that wasn't what I was suggesting, the Consumer Reporting Agencies provide more than a credit score. In fact FICO is a completely different organization and the Consumer Reporting Agencies actually just aggregate the data that is fed into FICO to give the score. They actually provide products to rate many different items of your life. In fact your car insurance and homeowners insurance pull information from them that rates how likely you are to submit a claim. The exact language for what they are pulling in this background check (at least for DVC) is a Consumer Report which is different than a Credit Report but all based on the same data about the consumer. Just different products being sold.

Think of the Consumer Reporting Agencies as simply a database with many life details on you. That is the service they provide, essentially they are the old school Facebook and Google who's product really isn't much different, the data on the consumer. Just Consumer Reporting Agencies have different people they sell information on you to, mostly financial institution.