Secret Rooms

Show, I think AV's point was that Orlando is too far out of the way for companies to justify paying for a year-round lounge. Sure, they may (or may not) participate in a convention or conference in the area, but they wouldn't need the lounge for most of the other 45-50 weeks of the year.

To your point, it might make sense to not make the sponsor pay for them, and instead use them as a perk for a wider range of companies.
 
“My understanding is that the countries represented in WS were all designed and paid for by the sponsoring country. Is that correct?”

Only in case of Morocco, their Ministry of Tourism has a desk there. Other than that the pavilions have no affiliation with the governments of the countries. You can think of the pavilions like they were a shopping center; Disney built the facility and then leased the stores and restaurants to other people. Some of the stores have an affiliation with a company from the “country” (like Twilinger’s Tea in the U.K. pavilion), some are run by people from the country and starting a new business (like the chefs from France that run the restaurants there), and some are just local businesses selling goods. There’s really nothing “official” about anything in World Showcase.

That doesn’t Disney hasn’t tried for more government participation. Both the tourism offices in Spain and Israel came pretty close to signing deals. The costs of the sponsorships and the benefits a nation would get from one just don’t work out*. In the 1980’s the government off South Africa wanted to sponsor a pavilion – but it was at a time when no one wanted to deal with them. Disney, in fact, was proceeding with an Africa pavilion without any form of sponsorship (construction had already begun). The management at the time felt it was important to represent that area in the “community of nations”. However, the management that followed felt that profitable sponsorships were more important and so the pavilion was cancelled. But at least we got another place to buy a Coke and a plush doll. As a general rule of thumb these days nothing happens in Epcot without someone else picking up the tab.


In a development of 43 square miles and upwards of a quarter million visitors per day, there are bound to be some services and places that aren’t widely publicized. Like the prayer room which was constructed to meet the needs for certain cast members and guests. I wouldn’t really call it “secret”, it’s just off the beaten track. You could say the same thing about the sundial and credit union in the Team Disney building or even the rotunda at the Casting Center (probably the most “Disney” spot in all of WDW). There’s nothing stopping guests from going in there, it’s just that few have the interest to.

Again, I think that calling the places “secret” implies there’s some sort of scavenger hunt underway for the trendy few who who’ve about it. Everyone like to consider themselves an “insider” and there’s no better way than the chanting “I know something that you don’t…”.


My comment about Orlando wasn’t meant for conventions or trade shows. Companies of the size that sponsor a pavilion are always pulling the “let’s get the regional sales reps together for a day to talk about the lay-offs” kind of meetings. Everyone thought that EPCOT Center might make a nice place to host those internal get-togethers. But when you’ve got people flying in from New York, Seattle, Cleveland, Philadelphia, San Francisco, Houston, Atlanta, Denver, Boston and Memphis – a more centrally located city like Chicago or Dallas works better. The lounges were used for sales and customer meetings, “executive retreats” and employee “morale building” trips, but I don’t think any of the company’s really found there were all that amazingly useful for regular business meetings.




* - “But all those potential tourists” the cry will go up. But think about it, you’re advertising to people that have already made up their mind about where to spend this year’s vacation (they’re already on it!). Sure they might think about you next year, but wouldn’t the money be better spent on glossy brochures and TV ads that will make them give you money now rather than next year? It’s the same reason you don’t see massive marketing at WDW for you to visit Disneyland, Tokyo or Paris; you’ve already purchased your Disney vacation for the year. Why throw marketing dollars at you when you won’t make a decision for another 12-36 months? The key to marketing is to hit the consumer just before they make a decision.
 
Norway also has a tourism desk but I'm not sure if it is from the nation's tourism ministry or a private travel company.
 
I think (but I'm far from sure) that the desk in Norway was sponsored by SAS Airlines. I also think they were the original sponsors of the film after the 'Malstrom' attraction. I also have vague memories of the government of Sweden wanting some sort of participation as well, but for a larger Scandivain pavilion. Perhaps, since SAS is a state-owned airline by Norway, Sweden and Denmark, that is how they are participating.

The Norway pavilion always struck me as a rather odd deal - I think the only real sponsors were SAS and a clothing firm (they have the large shop just outside the attraction). They weren't major sponsors and I don't know how much they got out of the place - although the bakery is fantasic.

Disney has talked to Nestle serveral times about a Swiss pavilion and I think that government's tourism office was brought in as well, but nothing really seems to have come of those conversations.
 

Originally posted by Another Voice
The Norway pavilion always struck me as a rather odd deal - I think the only real sponsors were SAS and a clothing firm (they have the large shop just outside the attraction).

Tag-Heuer?
 
Speaking of the Exposition Hall, we discovered something new for us at least during our last trip. We wandered to the back of the hall and found a tiny theater continuously showing the old cartoons once seen in the Main Street Theater. I watched Steamboat Willie in fact. I wonder why Disney keeps this little theater so hidden away?
 
I recently returned from Disney and whilst waiting for our phots, my son wandered to the rear of the Exposition Hall and came across the cinema. He thought it was great and was soon dragging the rest of the family with him.
True, not a secret, but not very well advertised.
 
Originally posted by sonicblaze
It ends up I was in China. I know there is an art gallery there but this one is on the side...and I don't think it's open... at least it wasn't at the time...


Were you able to find a door out, or did you have to have to go out the same way you came in ;)

On a drinking around the world trip a couple of years ago, our friend Rob got lost in China. When we found him later he was telling us these tales of this "museum" that he stumbled on (literally) in China and spent like an hour in. We joked him about that for months, and when we were there last week we took him back sober to see this "museum" in China-- it is quiet and off the beaten path, but not secret.

OH, besides that "museum" in China, and the stave church, andh the baseball-samarai display in Japan, or the utilidors I guess I have been to two of these secret rooms as well! (The former AP lounges in the Land and DAK :)

DR
 
Originally posted by Planogirl
Speaking of the Exposition Hall, we discovered something new for us at least during our last trip. We wandered to the back of the hall and found a tiny theater continuously showing the old cartoons once seen in the Main Street Theater. I watched Steamboat Willie in fact. I wonder why Disney keeps this little theater so hidden away?

So where exactly is ThIS? I would be interested to find this.


I remember there used to be a actual store front that played movies --back in 1988 I remember standing in what I thought was a storefront on the right hand side as you are walking about 3/4 of the way down?
 
Cindy B,

You're thinking of The Main Street Cinema... receptor of all my A tickets, way back when, in the days I was but a mildly chilly head.

The Main Street Cinema nows serves as a gift shop; there is still a screen against the rear wall that has shown clips from recent Disney theatrical releases and advertisements for Disney Parks around the world, the last few times I've been in there.

The more luxurious area they're talking about is in the back of the Exposition Hall (the building just to the right of Tony's Town Square Restaurants... with all the big ol' rocking chairs on the porch). Once inside, keep walking to either the left or right (it's a big circle, in there) around the mass of people buying their Cinderalla Castle pictures: there is more to this building than what first appears.

About as far from the front door of the Expo Center as possible you will find the nice little theatre folks have mentioned.

And it wouldn't surprise me at all if you occasionally got some serious face time with characters, back there in the Expo Center...
 
I'm a GM employee and I can tell you the lounge at Test Track is pretty awesome. Next time you walk up to the ride look up above the entrance ... you'll see some very tall windows going across the entire front of the building (above where the track runs).

Those are the windows in the front of the lounge area. They offer an amazing view of the park and all the way out to the Beach Club/Boardwalk area. It's especially impressive when a monorail goes cruising by ... makes for great pics! ;)

The lounge itself has some GM offices (can you imagine having your office in Test Track???), free beverages, "insider" material on the ride, private restrooms, and some comfy chairs. In addition, they provide you with front-of-the-line passes for the ride itself.

Other than the VIP lounges and the other little nooks and crannies mentioned, I don't know of any other "secret rooms" in any of the theme parks.
 
Thanks Walts Frozen Head!

Thats a very interesting tidbit.. I'm glad I wasn't going crazy.. I do remember standing and watching some old movies...


I will definetely keep this "newer" theater in mind..
 
Hey WDWack

My husband works for a GM Dealership, Body Shop Manager.


Do we qualify?:)
 
WDWacky,
Sounds like a 'phat' lounge. Makes me want to go get a job with GM!
We love TT>:tongue:
 
Originally posted by mulgar
I may be just embelishing on childhood memories,But I seem to remember a long hallway right inside the entrance to Mk that led to a room that had in it among other things.
The Oscars from Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs and a 3-d model of the original design of EPCOT.
Am I imagining things or did this room really exist?


Shawn :jester:

There are some interesting wall exhibits in Innoventions West in Epcot that I found while taking my DD for a quiet ride in her stroller for a nap. It's kinda towards the World Showcase end, and behind the little coffee/drink shop that is right in front of the whole building. You can also see a model of the original design of Epcot on the People Mover in the MK. Perhaps you were merging to parks together? Those oscars may have also been in the Exhibition Hall hallways. Who knows? ;)
 
:confused: Checked out morocco for that hidden prayer room. Tried every door I found, none would open. The only one I did not try was the one that said CMs only. So I finally asked a CM about a secret prayer room, and he said there was prayer room in the museum, but it was not secret. We went into the museum, and there it was.
 
The teacher resource room never had refreshments. I was in it many times. Teacher ID was asked for in the beginning and then that changed also.
 










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