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just throwing this out here: if you want a seat, you can catch a cab. just because you arrived on a disney bus does not mean you have to leave on a disney bus.

:goodvibes. I want to take cab every time I leave epcot after illuminations (if not staying at boardwalk resorts of course), but my wife never let's me. So we have to play bus roulette. How many people do we have o let in front of us so we are near first on the next bus. After 10 visits to WDW, I have never taken a cab.:sad2:
 
Not necessarily, the people who "need" a seat can wait for the next bus (10 more minutes or more) or they can get on the crowded bus anyway and then according to this post, every able bodied person is supposed to offer their seat or be labeled a loser. It really is just like fast pass scenario.

For the person giving up the seat/fp, it is not the same. You will not end up in the same spot at the same time. You give up the seat politely for someone who needs it more than you feel you do at the moment, and you still get to your hotel at the same time. You give up your fast pass, and you will not end up stepping off the ride at the same time had you used your fp.

For the record, I think it is fantastic when someone gives up a seat for someone else who seems to need it more than they feel they do at that moment in time. I do not think it is required, but a nice gesture, and something that I will teach my own kids. I would not expect someone to move for me or any of my family members and I won't glare at them for the bus ride if they don't give up their seat for someone else. I also won't wonder why they didn't or label them a "loser".
 
For the person giving up the seat/fp, it is not the same. You will not end up in the same spot at the same time. You give up the seat politely for someone who needs it more than you feel you do at the moment, and you still get to your hotel at the same time. You give up your fast pass, and you wil not end up stepping off the ride at the same time had you used your fp.

I understand your very courteous position. But, I see two other perspectives. It sounds like many people like me will give up our spots in line after waiting for several buses to ensure that we are not standing in the aisle like sardines. After waiting my turn to get the seat I want, you are suggesting that I should give that seat up to somebody who knowingly gets on an overcrowded bus because they can't wait for a seat on the next bus.

If that is the case, then I should also feel bad because those mothers with small children and elderly are waiting in standby lines for rides, while I have a FP. I see no difference. Nobody forces anybody on a crowded bus.
 
I understand your very courteous position. But, I see two other perspectives. It sounds like many people like me will give up our spots in line after waiting for several buses to ensure that we are not standing in the aisle like sardines. After waiting my turn to get the seat I want, you are suggesting that I should give that seat up to somebody who knowingly gets on an overcrowded bus because they can't wait for a seat on the next bus.

If that is the case, then I should also feel bad because those mothers with small children and elderly are waiting in standby lines. I see no difference. Nobody forces anybody on a crowded bus.

You honestly don't see a difference for the person that is giving up the seat vs. fp? Not the person who didn't wait for the next bus? And if you read my last post carefully, I am not suggesting that you give your seat up. I am saying that I would, and that if someone does I think it is great. I attempted to make it clear that I do not think everyone has to do this, but I feel it is nice if you notice someone standing right near you that is elderly, holding sleeping child, injured perhaps, and offer them a seat.
 

Want to help kids, do nothing, no, really, let parents learn that sometimes nobody will get up and it is time to grow up and think about their kids, otherwise they will continue to put themselves in this situation. do not worry, it is a full bus meaning there is no space to actually fall and hurt yourself but it is very uncomfortable to hold a kid or two and yourself and they will remember it next time. Go ahead and flame me but being RN and seeing so many kids being hurt because of stupidity of their parents, I can assure you sometimes a wake up call isin order.

Well said Kelly! :thumbsup2

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I understand your very courteous position. But, I see two other perspectives. It sounds like many people like me will give up our spots in line after waiting for several buses to ensure that we are not standing in the aisle like sardines. After waiting my turn to get the seat I want, you are suggesting that I should give that seat up to somebody who knowingly gets on an overcrowded bus because they can't wait for a seat on the next bus.

If that is the case, then I should also feel bad because those mothers with small children and elderly are waiting in standby lines for rides, while I have a FP. I see no difference. Nobody forces anybody on a crowded bus.

There is a huge difference. Riding on a bus standing while holding a baby has the potential to end very badly if the bus needs to swerve, stop short or whatever. Same goes for the elderly, disabled, pregnant etc. That's the main reason why I give up my seat.
 
There is a huge difference. Riding on a bus standing while holding a baby has the potential to end very badly if the bus needs to swerve, stop short or whatever. Same goes for the elderly, disabled, pregnant etc. That's the main reason why I give up my seat.

If this is dangerous, they should not choose to enter the bus as a standby rider. For their own safety and others, they should calmly wait for the next bus with a whole bunch of empty seats.
 
You honestly don't see a difference for the person that is giving up the seat vs. fp? Not the person who didn't wait for the next bus? And if you read my last post carefully, I am not suggesting that you give your seat up. I am saying that I would, and that if someone does I think it is great. I attempted to make it clear that I do not think everyone has to do this, but I feel it is nice if you notice someone standing right near you that is elderly, holding sleeping child, injured perhaps, and offer them a seat.

Hey that isn't fair, you added that paragraph while I was typing my response! :goodvibes
 
And to all you people who have leg cramps or a blister on your poor toes, and "can't get up", just say I'm too selfish to give up my seat, don't use these poor excuses.

Please share your impressive credentials that enable you to decide which physical ailments are legit and which are "poor excuses"....
 
Hey that isn't fair, you added that paragraph after my post! :goodvibes

Ehhh I think your joking...lol ....not sure cause I don't know you.....little guy :goodvibes seems to suggest that...especially since I added that before your last post according to time stamp....:)
 
Ehhh I think your joking...lol ....not sure cause I don't know you.....little guy :goodvibes seems to suggest that...especially since I added that before your last post according to time stamp....:)

Wait I think I see, you were actually typing and didn't see what I added...brain fried from reading 24 pages of this?! WHY?! lol :rotfl:
 
If this is dangerous, they should not choose to enter the bus as a standby rider. For their own safety and others, they should calmly wait for the next bus with a whole bunch of empty seats.

Yes but once they're on the bus it's too late for them to get off. It can easily be argued that they shouldn't have got on but once they're on it's too late and I'm happy to help out by offering a seat. I personally see it as the right thing to do if you're able to. I just can't wrap my head around the argument of punishing children because their parents boarded a bus without making sure there were seats. Clearly these idiot parents are the root of all evil and deserve to be shunned from society. Good thing there's nice people from the Dis to teach them a lesson, because they really have no business on WDW buses if they aren't going to play by the rules. This thread just keeps going in circles so it's time for me to bow out now because we're leaving in 3 days and I've got to pack! :wave2:
 
:goodvibes. I want to take cab every time I leave epcot after illuminations (if not staying at boardwalk resorts of course), but my wife never let's me. So we have to play bus roulette. How many people do we have o let in front of us so we are near first on the next bus. After 10 visits to WDW, I have never taken a cab.:sad2:

yeah ive been in both spots, riding a bus standing up miserable and taking a cab. i personally dont mind standing at all, i'm a 24 year old male and have no problem doing it. however i dont feel like i have to give up a seat at any point in time, but will when i feel like it.

i just think people tend to forget that they have other options. yes the disney buses are free but they are not the only way you can get back to your resort. you can take a cab or pay to park your car. otherwise if you are using the free service you cannot complain about sometimes having to stand. you can either wait for another bus, take a cab, or stand up if no seats are available. i would say 99% of the time you are going to pay less than 10 bucks for a cab back to a disney resort. not bad imo.
 
This.
No, no, that's not the excuse! The real excuse is that they're nobly teaching those irresponsible standers a lesson. After all, old people, and people with babies, and pregnant women should know better than to get caught up in the magic and stay too late at the parks. It's their own fault for getting old, or choosing to have kids. And if we don't make them stand, how else will they ever learn?

Man, we're awesome, selfless people. We're making people into better parents and teaching oldsters to stop pushing their physical limits. And while we're doing all that, we get to take a load off our feet, too! There's no downside!

(I think I love this thread!)
 
We got on the bus after the fireworks at MK last January. I got a seat and held my 5 yo dd on my lap. 10 yo ds and dh were standing in the back of the bus. The crowds were horrendous. Hundreds of people trying to get on the buses back to POP.

A family boarded the bus after all the seats were taken. Hubby had two strollers. Mom had a small infant (like 3-4 months old) in her arms. Holding one leg was another child--about 15 months and the other leg was being held by a third child who was about 2.5 year old.

EVERY person on that bus stayed in their seats and were ok with that mother standing with 3 (THREE) babies.

Dd and I got up and let the lady have my seat.

There were a group of 3 young ladies from Brazil who were standing next to us and I positioned my dd so she could hold onto the rail. They were outraged and made a few comments out loud to the other passengers about how a "mom with a small child gave up her seat." It took us a good 25 minutes to get back to POP. Thee was no way that lady could have stood with 3 babies. Someone would have gotten hurt.

Amy

Okay. I'll be the bad guy and come out and say it.

Does ANYONE other than me look at a family like this (husband, wife, 3-4 month old baby, 1.5 year old, 2.5 year old and TWO strollers) and wonder what on earth possessed them to think a crowded, hyperstimulating location such as WDW was the perfect location for a family vacation? We only have ONE child and I refused to take her until she was 5. Just because I didn't want to deal with the strollers and the crowds and the STIMULATION AND EXCITEMENT.

If I'd had THREE children under the age of 2.5 years old, I'd have considered myself a glutton for punishment taking them to WDW. Geez, none of them will ever remember the vacation. Sometimes, when planning family outings, there comes a point of diminishing returns. The logistics of dealing with three VERY young children such as this (in line, on the bus, waiting for a table, spending long hours at the park) seems to negate the postives of the trip. It's as if they are begging for difficulties to assault them. And they did. On a bus back to the resort.
 
We only have ONE child and I refused to take her until she was 5. Just because I didn't want to deal with the strollers and the crowds and the STIMULATION AND EXCITEMENT.

In many cases it all depends on the child. Every child is different. Would I attempt WDW with 3 kids under the age of 3? No way. My child is 5 and this is her 2nd trip to WDW. Much like others are asking not to be judged on why they elect to sit vs. stand on a bus, I won't even begin to think I know why they decided to bring that many young kids with them to WDW.

Maybe they were with a bigger group that got on another bus, maybe one member of that group paid for them to come, maybe (hopefully not) one of their kids is ill and they wanted them to experience Disney.

I find it ironic that some (not all or even the majority, but some) that say they won't give up their seat and not to judge them for it will in turn say why would you even think about doing this kind of a trip with that many kids, in your condition, etc...when the fact is they have no idea why that person is on that bus at that moment, what life events have brought them to WDW, etc...

Why so many people have their panties in a wad over a 10-15 minute bus ride I just cannot understand? Were you not in a crowded park with these same people all day? If everyone that needed/wanted a seat took a cab how long would those lines be? How many threads would there be over the rudeness of the people in the cab lines? If you're going to ride the bus ride it. It's obviously going to be crowded and you might have to stand. If you are sitting and want to offer your seat to someone, thank you and good for you. If you decide you just can't/don't want to then don't and good for you. No reasons need to be given either way. Go back to your hotel room and for goodness sake get some rest and get up to enjoy another day.
 
In many cases it all depends on the child. Every child is different. Would I attempt WDW with 3 kids under the age of 3? No way. My child is 5 and this is her 2nd trip to WDW. Much like others are asking not to be judged on why they elect to sit vs. stand on a bus, I won't even begin to think I know why they decided to bring that many young kids with them to WDW.

Maybe they were with a bigger group that got on another bus, maybe one member of that group paid for them to come, maybe (hopefully not) one of their kids is ill and they wanted them to experience Disney.

I find it ironic that some (not all or even the majority, but some) that say they won't give up their seat and not to judge them for it will in turn say why would you even think about doing this kind of a trip with that many kids, in your condition, etc...when the fact is they have no idea why that person is on that bus at that moment, what life events have brought them to WDW, etc...

Why so many people have their panties in a wad over a 10-15 minute bus ride I just cannot understand? Were you not in a crowded park with these same people all day? If everyone that needed/wanted a seat took a cab how long would those lines be? How many threads would there be over the rudeness of the people in the cab lines? If you're going to ride the bus ride it. It's obviously going to be crowded and you might have to stand. If you are sitting and want to offer your seat to someone, thank you and good for you. If you decide you just can't/don't want to then don't and good for you. No reasons need to be given either way. Go back to your hotel room and for goodness sake get some rest and get up to enjoy another day.

I deliberately visit WDW during the LOW season. I am anti-crowd. And I still want my own car and avoid the bus like the plague. But sometimes we still get stuck taking it.

What I am saying is that WDW is not the easiest place in the world to navigate and manage when you are healthy and ablebodied, let alone when any complications exist. Right now a friend of mine is considering a trip to WDW for the first time. They have FOUR kids. She wants me to help her plan. My first piece of advice will be that she cannot plan the same way I do. What my family of 3, with one older child can do IS NOT what her family of 6, with four children ages 2-8 can do.

For one thing, we can fit comfortably in even a small hotel room. Not them. If we had to, we could take the bus. Taking a 2, 5, 7 and 8 y.o to WDW for your first time, no doubt with a stroller or two in tow, is NOT going to be fun if you try to take the bus. They don't even have enough hands to keep one of each child and the strollers. To me, getting on a bus under those circumstances is walking right into misery, so I am advising her against it and to instead rely on a car. Wrangling 4 little ones every morning to go to a restaurant for breakfast? Doable, but maybe staying in a condo right next to Disney would be a better fit. (Avoid the buses even more!)

Sure, you can bring 3 tiny kids under age 2.5 years to WDW, but you put yourself at the mercy of luck and on buses, someone giving up a seat for you. You cannot count on that. Some nights, you need an army of angels just to get out of MK after the fireworks. As a mom, it's one thing for me to put myself at risk for falling down, getting knocked over, etc., but when it comes to my little kid, (kids if I had more than one) it's just not worth it. IMHO, that is.

I am not comfortable depending on the mercy of other people, so to speak. Especially not when I'm on vacation. Most especially when I am trying to keep 3 little kids safe. Not worth the trouble to me. YMMV and clearly, for some it does.

That still doesn't mean that my reaction upon seeing something like a husband and wife with 2 strollers, a tiny infant, and a 1.5 and 2.5 y.o won't be, "What were they thinking?" :confused3 Are they entitled to chose to visit WDW? Sure thing? And I'm entitled to wonder what made them decide NOW was the time to go. Yeah, someone could be dying, but that's probably rarer than hidden disabilities, ya know? Or maybe they just expect others will get up and offer them their seats because they have 3 little kids............
 
Sounds like there needs to be separate busses that just take care of the women with a sleeping child and the elderly who are exhausted from spending a whole day in the park. Then everyone else can stand in line, choose to wait for a seat or stand, and then not worry about being judged by the chivalrous and more decent folks.

Chivalry is horrible, please let us not go back to that time! Read up on it if you think it means 'manners' etc. Judging someone else's ability to do something based on your own ideals does not make you decent either.
 
Do you give up FPs to the mothers with sleeping kids or elderly too? It is really the same thing (crowded area, lots of standing, about 30 minutes).

I have to say......... I've seen a lot of unusual threads here on the DIS.

But I honestly never thought I'd seen one where someone was criticized for giving up their seat on a bus.
 
final note: going to wdw with my teenage kids my DS and DD always gave up their seat to a young mom or child... I never asked them to they just did it. For me, I would of told them to stay put

Interesting! I wonder where they learned to do that? I'm guessing someone must have taught them it's good manners to do so.

In any case, thank you for not telling them to stay put. Someday when they're asked why they give up their seats for others, they'll probably say, "I guess that's how my mom raised me."

Do you give up FPs to the mothers with sleeping kids or elderly too? It is really the same thing (crowded area, lots of standing, about 30 minutes).

I don't see that as a comparable scenario. Those folks are in a different line. Which they can get out of easily, if there's a serious problem (unlike the bus which is hardly going to stop and let them off). At most all they miss is an amusement ride.

However, I DO sometimes let elderly or infirm people go ahead of me in the grocery store line, so they don't have to be on their feet as long. We've all standing in the same line and it's moving slowly. They need their dinner as much as I do. It's not much of a hassle to me to let someone else go ahead.

Plus, people did it for me, when I was very pregnant, so I figure I'm just passing along the courtesy.
 
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