SDFP: CHANGES COMING!! Beware the 7th of June?!

[MINNIEANN MOUSE]

Is each magic band unique, no clones in your grouping of 4? Also verifying each band was previously linked to someone else's account and used? Then you should be able to make 3 FP for each band! Have a wonderful time

Yes, each magic band is unique and were previously linked and used. They belong to friends of ours. Thank you so much for replying! I can't wait until August!

 

[biochemgirl]

Thank you SO much for the detailed review on how you used SDFP. I was especially concerned with DHS because DH is a RnRC fan, but we love TSMM, I have TSMM booked already and sounds like we'll have a decent shot at a SDFP for RnRC. Our main goal at Epcot is to try and get one for Test Track-any luck with that?

We did two days at Epcot and did TT 3 times total, two with SDFP. If you are willing to go to a kiosk and check frequently, it does have some shifting availability. Even though DS loved it, the problem was the size of Epcot and wanting to spend time across the lagoon and not trek all the way back for a ride.

 

[LucyBC80]

I've read the first page more times than I can count now and I feel I'm ready to undertake this task!

So, I have a second MDE account that I don't use. We're not going to just one but three different MVMCP. The first one will be when we're off site and the other two when we're on site.

Here's the plan:

Buy the first set of tickets to the party using my primary account, no SDFP benefit since all my bands and cards are on my primary account. 30 day FP since we're staying off site.

Buy the second and third set of tickets using my secondary account, we'll be on site for both parties. Make 60 FP on my main account using my regular MB and regular park ticket. Make 30 day FP using the tickets on the other account. Use the cards for the 2nd and 3rd parties to make SDFP both before and after the parties. I plan on creating three phantom visitors on my secondary account and assign each one a different ticket so me and my can actually have two sets of rogue cards each.

I understood I can actually transfer the entitlement for the tickets I buy using the second account but it's a bit complicated and I don't wanna mess up my tickets.

Sounds like a good plan?

 

[castle4us]

Yes, that's right. Guest services will give you plastic cards for those tickets. Depending on the officiousness quotient of the CM who assists you, they might want to link the cards to profiles on your account for you -- since those tickets are not transferable. They might not want you to walk away and link them later.

Are there names written on your paper tickets? If so, your phantom names will need to match. And remember that once linked, partially used tickets *cannot* be reassigned. So if they are mistakenly linked to your own real profiles, there will be no SDFP with those cloned cards. Possibly set up a separate MDE - and don't make a mistake and give the CM the wrong email address! Don't trust anyone to do this for you - do it yourself, with a list of instructions for yourself to avoid error. Be sure that they give you an adult ticket in place of former child tickets - since a child in 2005 could be over 18 now. Ask for this. Even if the original user is still under 18.

Thanks. That helps so much! On our last trip, at once GS, I converted my husbands 10 day hopper paper ticket to a hard ticket. it was not assigned. Then I went to convert mine at a different GS and it was linked to my account (which I didn't want it to be being I was using my AP) so I understand what you are saying.

 

[AngelDisney]

Since we have experts here about WDW's TOS, I hope someone can help me with this situation. I understand that you can only use prebooked FPs if you enter the park with the associated tickets. I am planning to buy MNSSHP ticket and prebooking FP for 3:30 to 6:30. If I am already in MK, do I have to get my wristband before using my MB for FP access? I would not have entered MK using the party ticket in this case. Will I be violating TOS if I use my FP then get the wristband? Thanks in advance for any kind assistance!

 

[hiroMYhero]

If I am already in MK, do I have to get my wristband before using my MB for FP access?

No. Just use your FPs as booked.

 

[AngelDisney]

No. Just use your FPs as booked.

 

[Mrs. Ciz]

Thank you all so much for the detailed explanations of SDFP!!!!!

We were in WDW for my DD's high school softball spring training and did 3 park days over Easter Week (4/11 AK & HS, 4/12 EP & HS, 4/13 MK). The park crowd levels were *10s while we were there. We booked our FP+ in advance for our 2nd park of the day and did SDFP for the parks we hit first. All in all I felt like it worked pretty well, especially considering the crowd levels.

4/11: We started at AK. We got SDFPs at park opening for a morning Kilimanjaro Safari ride and Dinosaur and an evening FP for Primeval Whirl. We had a PPO ROL Tusker House breakfast and rode EE at rope drop. We used our prebooked FPs at HS starting at 12:30 for TOT, RnR and Star Tours. We checked the kiosk for TSM when we were done, but those FPs were long gone. We did manage to see the 3D Muppet Movie after waiting about 20 minutes. Every show was packed...every single seat filled with tons of people waiting in line. I have never seen the Muppet theater at capacity before. We left the park at 3:30 for a softball game and returned to AK for Primeval Whirl, dinner at Flame Tree and ROL.

4/12: We had a double header softball game in the morning, so we didn't get to Epcot until 12:30. We used our prebooked FPs for Soarin, Mission Space, and Spaceship Earth. We used single rider for TT (only a 25 minute wait at 1:30 PM). We did SDFP for Living with the Land and Nemo. You may think "Really...you needed a FP for Living with the Land and Nemo???" YES we really did if we didn't want to wait in line for 60 minutes! Wait times mid day at all the parks were insanely long! We spent the late afternoon/early evening snacking around the World Showcase at the F&G food kiosks, then left at 6:00 to head to HS for Sci-Fi milkshakes and Star Wars Galactic fireworks.

4/13: We had prebooked FPs for 7DMT, Splash Mt and Big Thunder Mt. At park opening we rode Space Mt, Under the Sea, Small World, and Haunted Mansion. We tried Peter Pan right after Space MT but the wait was already at 40 minutes (too long for me, I did try SDFP but could only get 11:15 PM - too late, so we skipped it this trip). I got SDFP that morning for Pirates, Jungle Cruise and Buzz in the early afternoon & early evening. After we finished with all our FPs, I booked 4th FPs for Pooh and Dumbo. In between FPs, we did Country Bears Jamboree, Carousel of Progress, Tiki Room, Incredibles Dance Party, Monster's Inc Laugh Floor and Wishes. We also left the park at around 3:00 for naps and came back at 6:00 PM.

We did all this without a smart phone or the app, just used the FP+ kiosks. I do want to have a smart phone for our next visit because it would be easier to change things once I have the SDFPs booked. We met a dad at Epcot who was able to get a 4:30 FEA for his family that afternoon by stalking it on the app! I felt like we did the best at MK and the worst at HS. HS is just so small now with not many offerings to disperse the crowds. BUT we got a lot done on our 3 park days and didn't wait longer that 25 minutes (for TT) over Easter Week when crowd levels were *10s! Success!!!!

*Crowd levels:
4/11: AK - 10 out of 10, HS - 9 out of 10

4/12: EP - 10 out of 10, HS - 10 out of 10

4/13: MK - 10 out of 10

 

[ScrapYap]

Thanks. What if they are in MDE but are listed as nonactive?

Just so you know, everything is spelled out in detail in the first post. Probably a good idea to review it.

 

[ScrapYap]

I have old KTTW cards linked to my current MDE that I would like to use as SDFP. I don't like the idea of having to set up a 2nd MDE for my upcoming trip because I would need to use my wife's email address which would mean I would lose some control, as emails associated with the 2nd account wouldn't be coming to my phone. I'm also afraid I might lose ADRs that I have already set up on the current MDE. Any suggestions?

Change the first names on the profiles that the old KTTW cards are linked to. Now those profiles are phantoms.

Set up new profiles for the real guests, using the real names. Link the tickets for your upcoming trip to your new real profiles, and obviously put the real people on any resort reservations.

Use the KTTW cards for SDFP. The phantom last name should be the same as your real last name since your phantoms are on your ADRs. If you are eating somewhere like BOG and need to tap your band or card to check in for the reservation, use the KTTW cards. Or look into changing the names of the guests on the ADR to the real guests. Reservations can be looked up at check-in by your phone number - so you can always just stick to giving them the phone number.

 

[gumbo1009]

Can you schedule SDFPs for two different parks? Looking at a day where I would be at HS for morning EMH - can I grab one SDFP for midday, then hop to MK and grab two SDFPs for use at night? (Or will the system balk because I have a FP at HS that I have not used yet?)

 

[AngelDisney]

I have re-read the first post and still have a question about used tickets with Mickey head in a circle from 2011. It seems that these would work without linking to a profile. Since we are a party of two people, I am ok with not having all my profiles linked to my MDE. I am planning to write all SDFPs and FPs down while booking then later input info into my iPhone in addition to a picture of the kiosk screen.

My question: If I don't link the 2011 tickets to any profile, wouldn't the kiosk ask for a name when tapping the ticket for SDFP? Or the screen will show either a generic icon or the number code of the ticket on the screen? I hope to know what process I should anticipate when using a 2011 ticket that is not linked to any profile. So I wouldn't look so lost and end up with a kind CM trying to approach me in an attempt to assist me.

Thanks in advance for any kind assistance!

 

[ScrapYap]

I have re-read the first post and still have a question about used tickets with Mickey head in a circle from 2011. It seems that these would work without linking to a profile. Since we are a party of two people, I am ok with not having all my profiles linked to my MDE. I am planning to write all SDFPs and FPs down while booking then later input info into my iPhone in addition to a picture of the kiosk screen.

My question: If I don't link the 2011 tickets to any profile, wouldn't the kiosk ask for a name when tapping the ticket for SDFP? Or the screen will show either a generic icon or the number code of the ticket on the screen? I hope to know what process I should anticipate when using a 2011 ticket that is not linked to any profile. So I wouldn't look so lost and end up with a kind CM trying to approach me in an attempt to assist me.

Thanks in advance for any kind assistance!

The cards definitely don't need to be linked. Just tap away. Disney sells thousands of "day tickets" every day -- people don't bother to link them - they just tap. So you'll just be one of those thousands.

 

[AngelDisney]

The cards definitely don't need to be linked. Just tap away. Disney sells thousands of "day tickets" every day -- people don't bother to link them - they just tap. So you'll just be one of those thousands.

Ok, I would just tap both cards to book SDFP as a group of two then pick time and attraction as prompted.

 

[jeffg4]

Change the first names on the profiles that the old KTTW cards are linked to. Now those profiles are phantoms.

Set up new profiles for the real guests, using the real names. Link the tickets for your upcoming trip to your new real profiles, and obviously put the real people on any resort reservations.

Use the KTTW cards for SDFP. The phantom last name should be the same as your real last name since your phantoms are on your ADRs. If you are eating somewhere like BOG and need to tap your band or card to check in for the reservation, use the KTTW cards. Or look into changing the names of the guests on the ADR to the real guests. Reservations can be looked up at check-in by your phone number - so you can always just stick to giving them the phone number.

Thank you - I assume I should be doing this on my primary MDE. We are a family of 4 and I only have 3 KTTW cards (can't find the 4th). But I do have an old RFID ticket that is not linked. If I deactivate the 4th KTTW and add the unlinked card, then change the names on all of them, I should be set up for SDFP. I do not have ADRs at BOG, however, the KTTW cards have names and 2013 dates printed on them. I hope I won't get any friction from CMs who might happen to see the cards. I will also have to go through the extra step of deselecting the phantoms when I pull up my MDE for FP+ selections, correct?

 

[g-dub]

In everyone's experience - what is the best priority in the morning for rope drop using SDFP? If I arrive with the family 45 minutes before opening and wait for rope drop - the thought of hitting a FP+ kiosk and waiting in a line to book FP+ while missing out on those precious rope drop short wait times is painful. Is it better to hit 1-2 rides for the rope drop lines and then make SDFP after that? Or better to hit the kiosk right after walking in - make those SDFP and then go the first ride - knowing that by that point I might be behind a 30-45 minute wait at things like Test Track or SDMT...

 

[Mrs. Ciz]

In everyone's experience - what is the best priority in the morning for rope drop using SDFP? If I arrive with the family 45 minutes before opening and wait for rope drop - the thought of hitting a FP+ kiosk and waiting in a line to book FP+ while missing out on those precious rope drop short wait times is painful. Is it better to hit 1-2 rides for the rope drop lines and then make SDFP after that? Or better to hit the kiosk right after walking in - make those SDFP and then go the first ride - knowing that by that point I might be behind a 30-45 minute wait at things like Test Track or SDMT...

I did rope drop, rode a couple of rides first, then hit the kiosks.

 

[ScrapYap]

Thank you - I assume I should be doing this on my primary MDE. We are a family of 4 and I only have 3 KTTW cards (can't find the 4th). But I do have an old RFID ticket that is not linked. If I deactivate the 4th KTTW and add the unlinked card, then change the names on all of them, I should be set up for SDFP. I do not have ADRs at BOG, however, the KTTW cards have names and 2013 dates printed on them. I hope I won't get any friction from CMs who might happen to see the cards. I will also have to go through the extra step of deselecting the phantoms when I pull up my MDE for FP+ selections, correct?

You'd obviously be using whatever MDE has the linked KTTW cards. You only have one MDE, right? You'd rather not create a second. So this is a way to keep everything on the one MDE.

Deactivating cards has no effect on a card with no ticket entitlements. Just link the old RFID ticket to the fourth person (whose KTTW card you can't find). Change those four names to phantom. Use the cards for SDFP.

You're not using those KTTW cards for admission, so there is no possibility that a CM will look at any names written on them. For your own reference, Sharpie the new phantom names onto the front of the corresponding card.

When you make FP selections, you always have to select the guests you are booking for. It's not deselecting, just selecting. I think you're confusing this with guests visiting kiosks for SDFP - who have to deselect the real guests before booking SDFP for phantoms.

For your own sake, if I were you, I'd reread the first post. Twice.

 

[ScrapYap]

In everyone's experience - what is the best priority in the morning for rope drop using SDFP? If I arrive with the family 45 minutes before opening and wait for rope drop - the thought of hitting a FP+ kiosk and waiting in a line to book FP+ while missing out on those precious rope drop short wait times is painful. Is it better to hit 1-2 rides for the rope drop lines and then make SDFP after that? Or better to hit the kiosk right after walking in - make those SDFP and then go the first ride - knowing that by that point I might be behind a 30-45 minute wait at things like Test Track or SDMT...

To paraphrase Lin-Manuel and Hamilton:

We sign up for random FP, tossing dice in a basket.
Would you like to take it out and ask it?
Should we book you now or later, SDFP?
Uh, do whatever you want, what will be, will be.

 

[jeffg4]

You'd obviously be using whatever MDE has the linked KTTW cards. You only have one MDE, right? You'd rather not create a second. So this is a way to keep everything on the one MDE.

Deactivating cards has no effect on a card with no ticket entitlements. Just link the old RFID ticket to the fourth person (whose KTTW card you can't find). Change those four names to phantom. Use the cards for SDFP.

You're not using those KTTW cards for admission, so there is no possibility that a CM will look at any names written on them. For your own reference, Sharpie the new phantom names onto the front of the corresponding card.

When you make FP selections, you always have to select the guests you are booking for. It's not deselecting, just selecting. I think you're confusing this with guests visiting kiosks for SDFP - who have to deselect the real guests before booking SDFP for phantoms.

For your own sake, if I were you, I'd reread the first post. Twice.

When I linked the extra card, my MDE put it in the "My Other Family and Friends" section, and I can't seem to move it to the "We're Planning Together Section." Does it matter?