Screaming kids thread on the adult board...

My thoughts exactly. I saw that a couple weeks ago and had to stop reading because my blood pressure kept rising :). And to think I posted on that board last year.
 
This also reminds me of the many posts I've seen where people were complaining about the "quiet" pools having kids in them...
WDW really needs to change that term to something else. It is misleading. Typically the "quiet" pools are just the non themed pools with no slides. I'm sure WDW didn't intend for all those pools to be for adults only!

If they want a kid free vacation then they probably need to go to another destination?!? ::yes::

Correct me if I'm wrong, but with the exception of V&A, aren't all WDW restaurants open to all ages with kid meals being offered?
 
Ok I go to page two of the tread and quit, because if I would have wrote something, I would be banned from the Dis Boards.
 

I certainly agree that you have to expect lots of kids at Disney and that if you can't deal with that, you should vacation elsewhere.

However, I also feel that, even at Disney, crying babies and screaming toddlers, etc. should not be allowed to disrupt other people's experienes.

Sure, take your baby or little one to Disney and have a great time! However, if you baby or toddler has a fit in the middle of dinner at Artist Point (or even Chef Mickey's) PLEASE remove yourselves from the situation until you can get your little sweetie back under control. If the little dear has a melt-down in the middle of the Festival of the Lion King, get up and leave!

Just becasue it's Disney World doesn't mean that everyone else in the restaurant should be forced to suffer while your two year old screams through the entire meal. Don't you agree?

Kids and babies get tired, hot, cranky, etc. It's just part of the package. It doesn't mean they are bad or shouldn't be taken out, etc. It just means that their parents need to get out of the situation and take care of their needs. If that means leaving your meal half eaten or missing a show, then so be it. That's part of being a parent.

Anyway, just wanted to post since I can see both sides. My little guy is a true sweetie. He is very laid back and easy going. We take him out all over the place and hardly ever have a problem, but we have also spent quite a few dinners taking turns eating while the other walked around outside with the baby. We would never dream of letting him disturb others for an extended period - and that goes for Disney World just as well as for our local Olive Garden.
 
If the little dear has a melt-down in the middle of the Festival of the Lion King, get up and leave!

This is funny...

Last trip during COP my youngest starts crying she has to go pee and NOW!!! I didn't know what to do so I just got up and took her out the emergency door. It took me to a back area at MK and I had to walk around the show building and unbuckle a few ropes before I could get around.

Meanwhile, my parents were totally clueless I had left. I guess as soon as the door opened the lights came on, audio stopped and a voice came on to please stay in your seats and not leave the theater in a very stern voice. Afterwords, my Mom was surprised to see I was the one who caused the interruption. OPPS!

I think I made the right decision - either have had her pee on the floor or leave the show. ::yes::
 
Hmmm . . . Well, COP is really more a ride than a show, and rides, of course, are hard to get out of - even if there's a meltdown or whatever. :p We just try to make sure everyone's been to the bathroom and everybody seems happy before we get in any lines! :crazy: However, on a trip a few years back we waited in a few lines only to back out at the last minute because my little cousin (two at the time we took him) was getting really fussy and we were afraid he would case a huge disturbance on the ride and we didn't want to be trapped with a screaming toddler. We've never really had that problem with our little guy. He is still nursing and that pretty much takes care of any meltdown type situation. ;)
 
Hey, I was one of those parents! :crazy: We were in Mickey's Philharmagic last May and our son decided he didn't like it. At the time we hadn't been in that attraction before and so didn't know what to expect (our mistake, I now admit). We ended up being seated in the middle of the theater, which of course was completely full. The noise and wind blowing through really scared my ds. I wanted to leave but it was too dark for me to see and I was afraid of tripping on people or stepping on toes, all the while trying to hold my squirming screaming little guy (who's quite strong for his size btw). I felt really terrible about it but honestly I couldn't see myself getting out of there so we just waited it out. So I'm sending out my humble appologies in case anyone here happened to be there. Of course we won't be taking him into that attraction again for quite a while! :D

putting my flame-retardant suit on now....
 
Originally posted by GEM
I certainly agree that you have to expect lots of kids at Disney and that if you can't deal with that, you should vacation elsewhere.

However, I also feel that, even at Disney, crying babies and screaming toddlers, etc. should not be allowed to disrupt other people's experienes.

Sure, take your baby or little one to Disney and have a great time! However, if you baby or toddler has a fit in the middle of dinner at Artist Point (or even Chef Mickey's) PLEASE remove yourselves from the situation until you can get your little sweetie back under control. If the little dear has a melt-down in the middle of the Festival of the Lion King, get up and leave!

Just becasue it's Disney World doesn't mean that everyone else in the restaurant should be forced to suffer while your two year old screams through the entire meal. Don't you agree?

Kids and babies get tired, hot, cranky, etc. It's just part of the package. It doesn't mean they are bad or shouldn't be taken out, etc. It just means that their parents need to get out of the situation and take care of their needs. If that means leaving your meal half eaten or missing a show, then so be it. That's part of being a parent.

Anyway, just wanted to post since I can see both sides. My little guy is a true sweetie. He is very laid back and easy going. We take him out all over the place and hardly ever have a problem, but we have also spent quite a few dinners taking turns eating while the other walked around outside with the baby. We would never dream of letting him disturb others for an extended period - and that goes for Disney World just as well as for our local Olive Garden.

I completely agree. I can see both side. I have an 8 month old "angel" and wouldn't dream of allowing her to ruin someone else's Disney experience. I enjoyed reading that thread. It helped me to understand that some of the things that my daughter does might annoy other guests and I would never want to do that.
 
Being a person of good manners, I won't even BEGIN to talk about the rude and immature things so many ADULTS at Disney have done that I have witnessed.

We cannot control the actions of others, we can only decide how we will react to them. If my children are out of line, I handle it the best I can (whether we are in the grocery store or at the Lion King show.)

What I cannot stand are some of the very rude things that the adults do; at least the children have the excuse that they are in fact children!!
 
We were in Mickey's Philharmagic during the soft opening. One of my DDs got so freaked I had to walk out with her. It wasn't the show that scared her, it was the obnoxious adult who was sitting next to her yelling, screaming, and waving her hands around trying to catch the 3-D images. What a jerk!:mad:
 
I read that whole thread and the majority of the posters to it were not saying they hate children or that they didn't want them allowed at WDW. The majority of posters, with children and with out children, had issue with parents who do nothing when their child misbehaves and it disrupts everyone around them.
 
We just try to make sure everyone's been to the bathroom and everybody seems happy before we get in any lines!

GEM, how old did you say your child is? ;)
I wish it was that easy with a three year old!


What I find interesting is the amount of people that comment on how bad kids are then go on to say my child is an angel and I've never had problems or even those who haven't experienced the twos and threes yet! :eek: You have to walk in my shoes to understand...

Let me say this - My oldest is an "angel" like many others say about their well behaving kids, then came my youngest.... Like I said on the other thread she was different from the moment she was born! It would be great to be blessed with two perfect kids, but my youngest requires alot more work. I raised them both the same, but yet they are completely different. It stinks to be judged and given dirty looks from others when they don't understand. We really don't go out much anymore.

I know alot of kids aren't disciplined, but there are some kids out there that are a little more high intensity than others. ::yes::
I certainly don't like older generations looking down at me cause I'm not using scare tactics like they did in the day with belts and switches. I also don't like those who don't have kids except for the occasional babysitting the niece or nephew giving out advice either.

I guess the odd thing to me is that we're talking about WDW! Kids, kids and kids! This isn't an adults only beach resort...
 
Originally posted by lenshanem
GEM, how old did you say your child is? ;)
I wish it was that easy with a three year old!


What I find interesting is the amount of people that comment on how bad kids are then go on to say my child is an angel and I've never had problems or even those who haven't experienced the twos and threes yet! :eek: You have to walk in my shoes to understand...

............

I guess the odd thing to me is that we're talking about WDW! Kids, kids and kids! This isn't an adults only beach resort...


He's 16 months old, not that I see how it matters at all. ;) We've taken many, many vacations (WDW and others) with extended family - little cousins, nieces, nephews, etc. I have traveled all over with my youngest cousin, including five or six major trips with him between the ages of two and three. If he was hot, cranky, overstimulated, etc. we found someplace cool and quiet to cool off until he was ready to go again. What we did NOT do was go right on with our plans to ride Small World or have lunch at the Brown Derby despite that fact that he was obviously headed for a meltdown. That' where many parents make a fatal misktake, in my opinion.

And, I'll say it again, yes, WDW is for kids - but it's also for everybody else. Nobody should have to endure a dinner, show, etc. with a screaming baby or toddler. The child should always be removed from the situation. Now, if you are on a ride and your previously happy child gets freaked out or whatever, then there obviously isn't much you can do but apologize and try to make the best of it.

We take our little guy all over the place. He's probably logged more vacation miles than kids four or five times his age. You can bet, though, that when he starts to cry, scream, just generally throw a fit (as all babies/toddlers do occasionally), and we can't get him quieted down right away, one of us takes him out so as not to disturb anyone else.

I do understand what you mean about some children being more "high intensity" than others. I already admitted that my little guy is generally very easy going and laid back. The little cousin that I mentioned traveling frequently with is NOT. He tends to be very nervous, clingly, extremely particular, etc. However, that still doesn't give us the right to let him disturb other people. We can't just say "oh, he's very intense," and expect people not to care that he's ruing their dinner or they can't enjoy a show because of him.

Now, I'm not saying that children should be expected to be perfect at Disney (or anywhere else). I'm just saying that parents need to be respectful of other people and do everything they can to make sure that their little darling doesn't create a huge disturbance for anyone else - and I think that's just as true at WDW as anywhere.
 
By the way, lenshanem, here is a little blurb from your last post on the other thread.

"So my three year old has a tantrum in a grocery store. I move the cart to the side and walk out quickly with her screaming . . ."

If that is how you handled the situation, you would definately not get any dirty looks or rude comments from me!! I would be thinking, "Way to go. What a great parent."

Now, if you continue to shop for half an hour while your little one shrieks and wails at the top of her lungs, that is another story. I wouldn't say anything, but I would be thinking, "Why on earth doesn't she take that baby out of here???"
 
I have a 2 1/2 year old son. I used to be one of those people that said "jeeze, MY kid is NEVER gonna be like THAT!" or "I'm not gonna raise my kid that way!!"

BOY, DID MY OPINION CHANGE ONCE MY SON HIT 2!!!!:p

I sympathize with all parents of toddlers. Especially in Disney World. Let me tell you, I understand!!! All those adults who turn their noses and give you dirty looks for your kids screaming can just.........go away.....!!!!
 
I have a 5 year old D. And I have a problem w/ screaming kids. Kids repeatedly kicking my chair. Kids running around a restaurant. I am in no way saying she's perfect. But she is not allowed to behave this way. Yes, kids try to get away w/ stuff. Plus they get tired. Now if a kid kicked my chair that's fine. But if it keeps going on and the parents just continue on like nothing is happening. I do have a problem w/ that. I guess my problem is w/ the parents for allowing, ignoring, not caring about how their child behaves. That being said of course it's Disney and kids are there. But so are their parents who are suppose to be taking care of them.

Of course there's also the big "kids" who act like brats. Ugh!
 
Originally posted by jobanana
I guess my problem is w/ the parents for allowing, ignoring, not caring about how their child behaves. That being said of course it's Disney and kids are there. But so are their parents who are suppose to be taking care of them.

Of course there's also the big "kids" who act like brats. Ugh!


Amen! I have 2 kids, DS14 and DD3, and I wouldn't dream of them doing some of the things that were said.

I think the weirdest thing I've seen as far as kids go was a little boy whose head got stuck in the safety railing on the upper level of the mall I used to work at years ago. Yes, his head was STUCK. He couldn't have been older than 6, poor guy. One of the hairdressers I worked with was coming back from her break when she found him. She ran in, yelled to call security, grabbed a bottle of leave-in conditioner off the shelf, and ran out to douse the kid's head in it. Lucky for him it worked! And where was his mom, you ask? Nobody knew. The security guy took him to the mall office and eventually she came looking for the little guy. Gee, I wonder how long it took for her to realize that he was missing? At least 15 minutes had passed after he was found by my old coworker!

You need a license to drive. You need a license to do certain types of work. Being a parent has to be the most challenging "job" (yet the most rewarding!) on the face of the earth. Kinda makes you think, doesn't it?

Sometimes I think that conversations about parenting rank right up there with conversations about religion or politics, since certain subject matter can incite such passion.

I must say though, that for being a newbie to this board, it seems like there are lots of good parents (read 'I don't think you'd forget your kids and have them end up with their heads stuck in the safety railing.' lol). If it does happen though, just remember the leave-in conditioner! :p
 
I started reading some of that thread one night too. It made me think about something I overheard on our last trip.

We were leaving MK after Wishes during our August trip when I overheard a young 20 something year old girl say (rather loudly) to a group of her friends:

"They shouldn't even ALLOW strollers in the parks!" :eek:

What??? I couldn't help but chuckle to myself then I thought . . . "Yeah, just wait, you'll change your mind in another ten years." :D
 
Originally posted by lenshanem


I know alot of kids aren't disciplined, but there are some kids out there that are a little more high intensity than others. ::yes::
I certainly don't like older generations looking down at me cause I'm not using scare tactics like they did in the day with belts and switches. I also don't like those who don't have kids except for the occasional babysitting the niece or nephew giving out advice either.

I totally agree! We have a high intensity very emotional child who was like that from birth (he even had colic!). His brother is a Zen master in comparison.

You cannot judge a family's situation by snooping from the next table or looking over a few heads in a line or at a show. I hate it when people assume my 4 year old is crying because of something I did or did not do as a parent. Sometimes he has inexplicable meltdowns, and it doesn't mean he is overtired, overstimulated, hungry or anything else. It also has NOTHING to do with being on vacation in WDW, because he's the same at home in slow-paced boring old Bangor Maine!

Of course, we deal with it appropriately, by leaving the scene if needed, but I must say, the disapproving looks always come from the people without kids. The moms and dads with kids in tow always give us a smile or a word of encouragement. :D
 


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