Scooter issues again

[scuba]

There is really no one that can convince me that WDW policy on scotters is correct, myself an able bodied adult standing in a q-line for 15 minutes waiting on a resort bus with my DD4 sleeping in my arms and our DD2 sleeping in my Wife's arms looking like sherpas with bags and packs and strollers when a scooter and a family of 20 comes along and motors to the front of the line. I get that there are hundrends if not thousands of folks that would trade with me, but we are delt the cards we are delt.

This trip I actually witnessed a 40 something with a ace wrap to an ankle push her own wheelchair to a loading ramp in fromt of at least 50 or so waiting in line to board the same bus. same person was seen by us gimping along, walking behind her wheel Chair at AK. My guess is if she is able to wheel her chair around she should have waitied in line like the rest of us wheeling strollers. Sorry, It sounds alittle less compassionate but I still contend that if the scooter driver got there before me then fine but don't let me wait 20 minutes for a bus only to see a party of 20 + a scotter take up a whole bus.

in addition, this is the second time this has happened to us, we were sitting on the bus, in the seats that were folded down in the absence of a scooter only to be asked to stand because of a newly arrived scooter and a family. Some might say have compassion however to displace a mother and her sleeping 2 year old from a seat is somewhat uncompasionate as well. I might have told the bus driver that i'm sitting here in my motorized seat, i'll wait on the next bus as to not displace a sleeping child.

So here we were on the way to Pop Century with scooter woman securely on the bus and my wife and I holding our sleeping daughters while standing. Standing on a bus where had we been in a car on the same road and our children not in car seats we would go to jail or the very least be ticketed

here is my solution, put buttons at every bus stop, similar to those at crosswalks, the ones that control the crosswalk lights and traffic lights. that button is routed to a controler that dispatches a new fleet of lift capable smaller buses to the stops.

I've posted a few controversial threads, maybe it's because our last trip was less than magic, I don't know. I hear from alot of folks about ME not disrupting the enjoyment of others however it seems like I never get that in return......I'm tired. On a positive, our trip in October, we have already secured a rental car for the length of stay.......scooters are not allowed in our vehicle

 

[bavaria]

There is really no one that can convince me that WDW policy on scotters is correct, myself an able bodied adult standing in a q-line for 15 minutes waiting on a resort bus with my DD4 sleeping in my arms and our DD2 sleeping in my Wife's arms looking like sherpas with bags and packs and strollers when a scooter and a family of 20 comes along and motors to the front of the line. I get that there are hundrends if not thousands of folks that would trade with me, but we are delt the cards we are delt.

This trip I actually witnessed a 40 something with a ace wrap to an ankle push her own wheelchair to a loading ramp in fromt of at least 50 or so waiting in line to board the same bus. same person was seen by us gimping along, walking behind her wheel Chair at AK. My guess is if she is able to wheel her chair around she should have waitied in line like the rest of us wheeling strollers. Sorry, It sounds alittle less compassionate but I still contend that if the scooter driver got there before me then fine but don't let me wait 20 minutes for a bus only to see a party of 20 + a scotter take up a whole bus.

in addition, this is the second time this has happened to us, we were sitting on the bus, in the seats that were folded down in the absence of a scooter only to be asked to stand because of a newly arrived scooter and a family. Some might say have compassion however to displace a mother and her sleeping 2 year old from a seat is somewhat uncompasionate as well. I might have told the bus driver that i'm sitting here in my motorized seat, i'll wait on the next bus as to not displace a sleeping child.

So here we were on the way to Pop Century with scooter woman securely on the bus and my wife and I holding our sleeping daughters while standing. Standing on a bus where had we been in a car on the same road and our children not in car seats we would go to jail or the very least be ticketed

here is my solution, put buttons at every bus stop, similar to those at crosswalks, the ones that control the crosswalk lights and traffic lights. that button is routed to a controler that dispatches a new fleet of lift capable smaller buses to the stops.

I've posted a few controversial threads, maybe it's because our last trip was less than magic, I don't know. I hear from alot of folks about ME not disrupting the enjoyment of others however it seems like I never get that in return......I'm tired. On a positive, our trip in October, we have already secured a rental car for the length of stay.......scooters are not allowed in our vehicle

I don't believe that anything I or anyone else will post will change your opinion. I suspect that this thread won't be around for long however.

Perhaps someone else can better explain the ADA and the requirements for busses.

 

[jlewisinsyr]

There is really no one that can convince me that WDW policy on scotters is correct, myself an able bodied adult standing in a q-line for 15 minutes waiting on a resort bus with my DD4 sleeping in my arms and our DD2 sleeping in my Wife's arms looking like sherpas with bags and packs and strollers when a scooter and a family of 20 comes along and motors to the front of the line. I get that there are hundrends if not thousands of folks that would trade with me, but we are delt the cards we are delt.

This trip I actually witnessed a 40 something with a ace wrap to an ankle push her own wheelchair to a loading ramp in fromt of at least 50 or so waiting in line to board the same bus. same person was seen by us gimping along, walking behind her wheel Chair at AK. My guess is if she is able to wheel her chair around she should have waitied in line like the rest of us wheeling strollers. Sorry, It sounds alittle less compassionate but I still contend that if the scooter driver got there before me then fine but don't let me wait 20 minutes for a bus only to see a party of 20 + a scotter take up a whole bus.

in addition, this is the second time this has happened to us, we were sitting on the bus, in the seats that were folded down in the absence of a scooter only to be asked to stand because of a newly arrived scooter and a family. Some might say have compassion however to displace a mother and her sleeping 2 year old from a seat is somewhat uncompasionate as well. I might have told the bus driver that i'm sitting here in my motorized seat, i'll wait on the next bus as to not displace a sleeping child.

So here we were on the way to Pop Century with scooter woman securely on the bus and my wife and I holding our sleeping daughters while standing. Standing on a bus where had we been in a car on the same road and our children not in car seats we would go to jail or the very least be ticketed

here is my solution, put buttons at every bus stop, similar to those at crosswalks, the ones that control the crosswalk lights and traffic lights. that button is routed to a controler that dispatches a new fleet of lift capable smaller buses to the stops.

I've posted a few controversial threads, maybe it's because our last trip was less than magic, I don't know. I hear from alot of folks about ME not disrupting the enjoyment of others however it seems like I never get that in return......I'm tired. On a positive, our trip in October, we have already secured a rental car for the length of stay.......scooters are not allowed in our vehicle

Don't sweat the small stuff.

 

[Tozzie]

There is really no one that can convince me that WDW policy on scotters is correct, myself an able bodied adult standing in a q-line for 15 minutes waiting on a resort bus with my DD4 sleeping in my arms and our DD2 sleeping in my Wife's arms looking like sherpas with bags and packs and strollers when a scooter and a family of 20 comes along and motors to the front of the line. I get that there are hundrends if not thousands of folks that would trade with me, but we are delt the cards we are delt.

This trip I actually witnessed a 40 something with a ace wrap to an ankle push her own wheelchair to a loading ramp in fromt of at least 50 or so waiting in line to board the same bus. same person was seen by us gimping along, walking behind her wheel Chair at AK. My guess is if she is able to wheel her chair around she should have waitied in line like the rest of us wheeling strollers. Sorry, It sounds alittle less compassionate but I still contend that if the scooter driver got there before me then fine but don't let me wait 20 minutes for a bus only to see a party of 20 + a scotter take up a whole bus.

in addition, this is the second time this has happened to us, we were sitting on the bus, in the seats that were folded down in the absence of a scooter only to be asked to stand because of a newly arrived scooter and a family. Some might say have compassion however to displace a mother and her sleeping 2 year old from a seat is somewhat uncompasionate as well. I might have told the bus driver that i'm sitting here in my motorized seat, i'll wait on the next bus as to not displace a sleeping child.

So here we were on the way to Pop Century with scooter woman securely on the bus and my wife and I holding our sleeping daughters while standing. Standing on a bus where had we been in a car on the same road and our children not in car seats we would go to jail or the very least be ticketed

here is my solution, put buttons at every bus stop, similar to those at crosswalks, the ones that control the crosswalk lights and traffic lights. that button is routed to a controler that dispatches a new fleet of lift capable smaller buses to the stops.

I've posted a few controversial threads, maybe it's because our last trip was less than magic, I don't know. I hear from alot of folks about ME not disrupting the enjoyment of others however it seems like I never get that in return......I'm tired. On a positive, our trip in October, we have already secured a rental car for the length of stay.......scooters are not allowed in our vehicle

I think we have been down the scooter path more than once and it isn't pretty. I have always had respect for the disabled and after having to use a scooter over Christmas due to a broken foot I have a new respect for people who need and use them. The seats you were sitting in are clearly marked that they must be given up to a disabled passenger, you sat in thema nd had to get up you weren't displaced you had to stand but you had fair warning you might have to . Children are not a trump card, they were a choice.

 

[scuba]

I'm not trying to start an argument, I would however appreciate someone explaining the reasonings behind the practice. While waiting on a bus we watched the driver load a scooter, he did it without anyone else being on the bus, I thought that was policy but to load a bus with able bodies already on doesn't that trump the scooter? We asked a driver and he said that shouldn't have happened because he left the bus running with the driving position unoccupied. The reasonings behind loading a scooter first was because he could prevent someone entering from the front of the bus and tampering.

As for not sweating the small stuff. In the context of waiting for several buses and sleeping children in our arms, retrosepectively it might? be small stuff but it was pretty large watching someone wheel onto the first bus after watching 2 fully loaded buses to our resord drive by....i'll have an open mind if someone can explain the practice...help me see.

 

[Joan S.]

hi, We have been renting a car at WDW for 15 years, you will LOVE the EASY access it gives you especially with small children!! Joan

 

[livndisney]

There is really no one that can convince me that WDW policy on scotters is correct, myself an able bodied adult standing in a q-line for 15 minutes waiting on a resort bus with my DD4 sleeping in my arms and our DD2 sleeping in my Wife's arms looking like sherpas with bags and packs and strollers when a scooter and a family of 20 comes along and motors to the front of the line. I get that there are hundrends if not thousands of folks that would trade with me, but we are delt the cards we are delt.

This trip I actually witnessed a 40 something with a ace wrap to an ankle push her own wheelchair to a loading ramp in fromt of at least 50 or so waiting in line to board the same bus. same person was seen by us gimping along, walking behind her wheel Chair at AK. My guess is if she is able to wheel her chair around she should have waitied in line like the rest of us wheeling strollers. Sorry, It sounds alittle less compassionate but I still contend that if the scooter driver got there before me then fine but don't let me wait 20 minutes for a bus only to see a party of 20 + a scotter take up a whole bus.

in addition, this is the second time this has happened to us, we were sitting on the bus, in the seats that were folded down in the absence of a scooter only to be asked to stand because of a newly arrived scooter and a family. Some might say have compassion however to displace a mother and her sleeping 2 year old from a seat is somewhat uncompasionate as well. I might have told the bus driver that i'm sitting here in my motorized seat, i'll wait on the next bus as to not displace a sleeping child.

So here we were on the way to Pop Century with scooter woman securely on the bus and my wife and I holding our sleeping daughters while standing. Standing on a bus where had we been in a car on the same road and our children not in car seats we would go to jail or the very least be ticketed

here is my solution, put buttons at every bus stop, similar to those at crosswalks, the ones that control the crosswalk lights and traffic lights. that button is routed to a controler that dispatches a new fleet of lift capable smaller buses to the stops.

I've posted a few controversial threads, maybe it's because our last trip was less than magic, I don't know. I hear from alot of folks about ME not disrupting the enjoyment of others however it seems like I never get that in return......I'm tired. On a positive, our trip in October, we have already secured a rental car for the length of stay.......scooters are not allowed in our vehicle

I don't supose you saw the signs stating those seats were to be offered to the elderly and handicapped?

From the FTA:
Sec. 38.27 Priority seating signs.
(a) Each vehicle shall contain sign(s) which indicate that seats in the front of the vehicle are priority seats for persons with disabilities, and that other passengers should make such seats available to those who wish to use them. At least one set of forward-facing seats shall be so designated.
http://www.fta.dot.gov/civilrights/ada/civil_rights_3905.html

 

[scuba]

I don't supose you saw the signs stating those seats were to be offered to the elderly and handicapped?

From the FTA:
Sec. 38.27 Priority seating signs.
(a) Each vehicle shall contain sign(s) which indicate that seats in the front of the vehicle are priority seats for persons with disabilities, and that other passengers should make such seats available to those who wish to use them. At least one set of forward-facing seats shall be so designated.
http://www.fta.dot.gov/civilrights/ada/civil_rights_3905.html

Yes, I saw the signs. What I don't understand is Disney usually loads a bus with disabled folks first, we were already on the bus, nearly pulling away from the curb. Like I said earlier this driver loaded a scooter with a full bus not only displacing us but actually put folks off of the bus because of the families with the scooter folks.....still just doesn't seem right, I'm not the only one that feels this way

 

[crashbb]

On a positive, our trip in October, we have already secured a rental car for the length of stay.......scooters are not allowed in our vehicle

Hopefully no one in your family gets injured or ill between now and then.

 

[uva185]

Let me get this straight, you were sitting in the seats that are marked "Reserved for Handicapped" and you are mad you had to move??? Just because you claimed them first doesn't mean you can keep them. If they picked up a handicapped person at the next stop which forced you to move would you still be mad??

Some people abuse the scooters and some people legitimately need them. As far as I know the scooters still have to wait in the standard que for bus lines and are entitled to the seats reserved for them so they can be strapped in. You were still allowed to stay on the bus and technically seat belt laws are different for buses as they are designed differently.

If your real gripe is you didn't get more compassion because you were holding a sleeping child you need a reality check! Having a child and traveling with said child is a choice! Sorry, but I travel quite frequently and I have zero sympathy for parents who think they are entitled to special treatment because they have a child.

 

[bavaria]

If your real gripe is you didn't get more compassion because you were holding a sleeping child you need a reality check! Having a child and traveling with said child is a choice! Sorry, but I travel quite frequently and I have zero sympathy for parents who think they are entitled to special treatment because they have a child.

I have often had the bad taste here that some parents seem to equate having children with a disability of some sort, but I don't think that I have actually read it worded in quite the clear fashion that the OP did.

Some might say have compassion however to displace a mother and her sleeping 2 year old from a seat is somewhat uncompasionate as well.

If it is a competition, then I truly do not think that the person with the impairment (whether temporary or permanent) is the 'winner'.

I might have told the bus driver that i'm sitting here in my motorized seat, i'll wait on the next bus as to not displace a sleeping child.

As you don't seem to be aware, those using assistive devices often wait an hour or more for a bus, not just for the 'next' bus.

 

[kaytieeldr]

I'm not trying to start an argument, I would however appreciate someone explaining the reasonings behind the practice. While waiting on a bus we watched the driver load a scooter, he did it without anyone else being on the bus, I thought that was policy but to load a bus with able bodies already on doesn't that trump the scooter?

1) "The policy" - not always followed, for reasons that are not incomrehendible, is that the Guest in the wheelchair and up to five companions may board through the back door; additional party members are supposed to wait in the regular queue and board with everyone else. Doing this, though, frequently results in parties being separated, i.e. riding on separate buses, boarding and arriving x minutes apart depending on the queue.

No, a bus with able bodies aboard CAN, and SHOULD, allow Guests in wheelchairs to board if there is space - to maneuver, to park the wheelchair or ECV, and if the latter, for the assistive device's user to move to a safe seat.

Frequently bus drivers DON'T do that even when there's space because it's too much trouble - there's navigating issues (bus not full, but not designed correctly* or too many people standing loosely throughout the bus to enable the person to board safely, or even the fear of disgruntled, complaining "able" bodies already on board.

But if there's space? Can you really justify NOT allowing the person to board the bus and making them wait X minutes longer, when 'your' bus could easily accommodate them?

*There is, or was, one bus so poorly designed that you had to get onto the lift backwards, then once aboard, turn the ECV to face the back of the bus, and back into the tiedown area.

 

[kaytieeldr]

here is my solution, put buttons at every bus stop, similar to those at crosswalks, the ones that control the crosswalk lights and traffic lights. that button is routed to a controler that dispatches a new fleet of lift capable smaller buses to the stops.

: That's a really discriminatory "solution" - but thanks.

 

[scuba]

: That's a really discriminatory "solution" - but thanks.

Thank goodness the discrimination bus just pulled in, and hopefully no one in my family is injured or mamed...blah, blah, blah. If someone out there can find me a way to prevent misuse of the system then fine, i'm all ears....no one has to like my opinion, i'm not asking for it. It still frustrates the heck out of me when i've waited for 15-20 minutes and a scooter pulls up only to be the first one on the darn bus. as for the rules, i've never seen 1 family member wait in a q-line. I have however seen bands of 20 family members take up half a bus. How many times do I have to see a scooter rider virtually jump up from a scooter and skip to a ride only to get on before me? misuse, misuse, and more misuse.

I would hope that one day a scooter rider might see someone with a child sleeping in a mothers arms with a full bus and pass and say they will catch the next bus. As for scooter riders waiting hours, i've never seen it when i've been there......but the good news like I said was it will be far better for me to spring for the extra cash for a rental than see a scooter pull up minutes before a bus arrives after i've been waiting for 20. one of the first couple of replies a person had it right, ain't no one going to change my mind. I would like to believe that IF my family is challeneged with a disability that I would wait in line just like the rest. I wouldn't want the "extra"

 

[bavaria]

Thank goodness the discrimination bus just pulled in, and hopefully no one in my family is injured or mamed...blah, blah, blah. If someone out there can find me a way to prevent misuse of the system then fine, i'm all ears....no one has to like my opinion, i'm not asking for it. It still frustrates the heck out of me when i've waited for 15-20 minutes and a scooter pulls up only to be the first one on the darn bus. as for the rules, i've never seen 1 family member wait in a q-line. I have however seen bands of 20 family members take up half a bus. How many times do I have to see a scooter rider virtually jump up from a scooter and skip to a ride only to get on before me? misuse, misuse, and more misuse.

I would hope that one day a scooter rider might see someone with a child sleeping in a mothers arms with a full bus and pass and say they will catch the next bus. As for scooter riders waiting hours, i've never seen it when i've been there......but the good news like I said was it will be far better for me to spring for the extra cash for a rental than see a scooter pull up minutes before a bus arrives after i've been waiting for 20. one of the first couple of replies a person had it right, ain't no one going to change my mind. I would like to believe that IF my family is challeneged with a disability that I would wait in line just like the rest. I wouldn't want the "extra"

I said that we wouldn't change your mind because it is clear that you have misconceptions that you are not willing to change from your initial post. There were several assumptions which you made about other guests in that post.

Those using assistive devices wait far longer than other guests, both in the parks and for transportation. Perhaps you haven't chosen to see that, or read that, or understand that, because you have been too focussed on yourself and your family.

If you haven't had a family member require such a device, you are indeed fortunate, but one day that may change and you may understand what so many here have tried to explain.

Once again I am stunned but no longer surprised at people being jealous of those with physical challenges.

 

[kaytieeldr]

as for the rules, i've never seen 1 family member wait in a q-line.

Oh. You've never been in the same place as my friends and me.

How many times do I have to see a scooter rider virtually jump up from a scooter and skip to a ride only to get on before me? misuse, misuse, and more misuse.

Gee, I have no idea. How many times has it actually happened? Really, truly? You're sure? Because wherever a line is mainstreamed, the wheelchair/ecv user waits in line with all the other Guests and boards the attraction in turn; where the queue or attraction design does not allow for mainstreaming, well, you wouldn't SEE the handicapped person board, except entirely by chance. In these situations, they have to enter the attraction in an entirely different route, or board the attraction in a different location.

Perhaps you have some actual examples?

I would hope that one day a scooter rider might see someone with a child sleeping in a mothers arms with a full bus and pass and say they will catch the next bus.

See above; again, apparently you've never boarded a bus around the same time I have. If there's a long line, I'll hang back until after an arriving bus has started loading. If I've just gotten to the bus stop, I'll ride up to the front of the bus and TELL the driver I'm not boarding that bus, because I just got there.

But I bet my actions don't matter to you, despite what you claim to 'hope', because my party size never exceeds six, anyway.

You always have the option to wait for another bus if it appears you'll have to stand and don't want to. I, on the other hand, sometimes MUST wait for the second or third or fourth bus - because there's some problem with the mechanism and the lift won't open, or it won't go up, or there are already people in 'those' seats and the bus driver doesn't feel like making them move. And I don't have the option of renting a car, because I can't lift the disassembled pieces of the ECV into a car.

 

[scuba]

Oh. You've never been in the same place as my friends and me.

Gee, I have no idea. How many times has it actually happened? Really, truly? You're sure? Because wherever a line is mainstreamed, the wheelchair/ecv user waits in line with all the other Guests and boards the attraction in turn; where the queue or attraction design does not allow for mainstreaming, well, you wouldn't SEE the handicapped person board, except entirely by chance. In these situations, they have to enter the attraction in an entirely different route, or board the attraction in a different location.

Perhaps you have some actual examples?


See above; again, apparently you've never boarded a bus around the same time I have. If there's a long line, I'll hang back until after an arriving bus has started loading. If I've just gotten to the bus stop, I'll ride up to the front of the bus and TELL the driver I'm not boarding that bus, because I just got there.

But I bet my actions don't matter to you, despite what you claim to 'hope', because my party size never exceeds six, anyway.

You always have the option to wait for another bus if it appears you'll have to stand and don't want to. I, on the other hand, sometimes MUST wait for the second or third or fourth bus - because there's some problem with the mechanism and the lift won't open, or it won't go up, or there are already people in 'those' seats and the bus driver doesn't feel like making them move. And I don't have the option of renting a car, because I can't lift the disassembled pieces of the ECV into a car.

Why Katieelder, I've not gotten into a discussion with you since children flying alone...how are you? good I truly hope

actually your actions do impress me. If others would follow your lead then there would be peace.

My example that you asked for would be at Peter Pan's Flight On Tuesday, I actually had parked a sleeping child in our stroller near the standby-fastpass-handicapped entrance. I was talking to a manager and was waiting for my wife and daughter to exit because the manager had a pin on his lanyard i was sure Hannah would want to trade for when several scooters pulled up behind me. They all jumped out of their motorized thingys and entered through the handicapped entrance and into the fastpass line. Of interest, the manager I was speaking with asked the scooter riders if they felt they would have problems with the ride because the ride travels at a different speed and cannot be stopped/slowed down, and the scooter riders stated that they would be fine. I understand that short walking stints for folks that need scooters can be possible but they had the appearance to this grouchy old ER nurse to be fine. My second example only takes us across the walkwaly to it's a small world. folks in scooters travel down the exits and board the boats from the other side, well before folks waiting in line.

These things I have seen with my own eyes, I would applaud anyone sending an able bodied person to wait in line for scooter riders, I would love that. I have never seen a scooter ever in a standard q line. been every year since 96........Now if you are ever there when we are there I would surely buy you a beer at the Rose and Crown, You play a mean message board........seriously, hope things are well. regards scuba

 

[Sleepy]

You are viewing the world through the glasses of "tired parents with sleeping children". As long as the inconveniences are out of your sight, things are great, but then the kids are tired and cranky, your feet are hurting, and you see someone in a wheelchair whom you think is getting special treatment. Suddenly something is wrong with the system.....they are getting on the bus first, they don't have to wait in line, etc.

Have you ever gone into a restaurant during the busiest time of the day and had to wait on an open table? Inconvenient huh? Now pretend it is a busy time and just as you get your food, you spot a table in the far corner and go grab it. Did you notice the family in front of you just sort of standing there with the tray of cold food? You know, the group you passed as you entered the diningroom......the family that had a person in a wheelchair. Know why you sat down first? Because they have to wait on a table on the outer edge so they can accomodate the wheelchair.

I bet you have never noticed when you are getting a convenience at the expense of a family with a wheelchair. Maybe you can remember that the next time a wheelchair gets on the bus first and you think your sleeping child gives you room to complain about your unfair treatment and inconveniences handicapped people cause you in other aspects of your life in the parks.

 

[Sleepy]

They all jumped out of their motorized thingys and entered through the handicapped entrance and into the fastpass line.

Just because a person is in a scooter doesn't mean they can't get in and out of a scooter easily.

I understand that short walking stints for folks that need scooters can be possible but they had the appearance to this grouchy old ER nurse to be fine.

This is your perception. If you understand that a person may need a scooter because they can't walk long distances, you should understand that they might also not be able to stand for long periods as well. My father needed a scooter while at WDW. He is older and his balance is not stable. He recently had back surgery to remove a tumor. In addition, he can't stand for long distances due to leg problems associated with diabetes. Just looking at him in the scooter, you would think he is quite capable of waiting like everyone else.

These things I have seen with my own eyes

These are only the things you have noticed. There is much you are not seeing. The older rides have less capability of accomodating scooters and wheelchairs. Since you have small children, this could be why you think the entire park is worked to allow handicapped people immediately to the front of the line. Fantasyland is very different from the rest of the parks.

I have never seen a scooter ever in a standard q line

The next time you visit WDW, ask each CM at the entrance of the ride what the procedure for a wheelchair is. Not many rides allow the wheelchair person to jump ahead. We waited at Toy Story for over 2 hours. I just kept thinking I wish my dad would move over. My feet were killing me. We waited at Sorin for a equal amount of time. We all wished he would have moved over. Those are just some examples, but yes, we waited in lines everywhere like everyone else. Again, see the above response. You probably spent most of your time in Fantasyland.

Maybe part of the problem is that the parks are huge and the scooters are scattered everywhere. The only time you would have the opportunity to really observe one in your close proximity is when you are waiting on a bus.......because EVERYONE is using the busses. It is more likely that you will notice a scooter will pull up when you are waiting in line for a bus because they are out in front, rather than them being at Space Mountain while you are at Jungle Cruise. Or in the case of both families at one ride, you are in the middle of the line while they just entered the line in the back.

 

[goofieslonglostsis]

As always with these types of threads, I'm offering a 'ride along' for those thinking there are so many "perks" combined with doing WDW on wheels. I'll be down at WDW again this fall for 3 weeks.

As Bavaria already pointed out, some folks seem to view having kids and staying past their limits as a disability. I'm not the worst person around, so as a one time limited offer this time I will offer this 'ride along' without my usual one demand that the person 'riding along' does it on wheels. This time only; 'ride along' while walking, but we will do things the 'wheelie way'.

Oh come on, who can resist all of those lovely 'perks'? Nobody, right? My PM-box is open for willing takers.