School shooting in Parkland, FL

[Domo]

Our sheriff just announced there were 17 fatalities.

Just one is too many...

 

[jalapeno_pretzel]

OK, I'll bite. WHO is saying that? I'm referring to people on this board, in this thread and others like it, specifically ME. I don't know what can be done. I'd be happy to support a study. I'd be happy to listen to practical suggestions that could be implemented without unintended consequences.

The federal government. Passed in 1996 or 97, the CDC is banned from studying firearm violence. Google Dickey Amendment.

 

[texaslover]

Well they just said he was expelled for disciplinary reasons so he wasn't at alternative school just because he couldn't learn in a traditional environment.

 

[tarheelmjfan]

Just one is too many...

ITA! It's heartbreaking & totally unacceptable.

 

[Shutterbug]

17 dead
12 in the building,
2 people just outside the building,
1 person on a nearby road,
2 at the hospital.

Mixture of adults and students.

 

[longboard55]

AR15 with multiple magazines. Two items that have no use other than mass shootings. But there is nothing we can doooooooooo

 

[jalapeno_pretzel]

Our sheriff just announced there were 17 fatalities.

But, I'm sure those 17 families are feeling very comforted right now by all the thoughts and prayers going their way.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Well they just said he was expelled for disciplinary reasons so he wasn't at alternative school just because he couldn't learn in a traditional environment.

He may have been there for that reason but unless they state the alternative school is only meant for those deemed as troubled kids I wasn't going to label it as a school for troubled kids..that was the point of the back and forth discussion.

 

[Marchand63]

I spent time in one myself. I know the range of students that are there.

Not all are well adjusted; some are very troubled.

Not all alternative schools are for troubled. My son's school was for both academically & musically gifted. So again no. Blanket statements about alternatives are misleading.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Not all alternative schools are for troubled. My son's school was for both academically & musically gifted. So again no. Blanket statements about alternatives are misleading.

Ok. I'm guessing, though, that this kid was in the type for troubled kids.

 

[robinb]

ITA! It's heartbreaking & totally unacceptable.

So very sad . And on Valentines Day, a day of love. I'm sure that the day that a loved one is gunned down will never be forgotten but can you imagine being one of those families the second that the Valentines Day decorations come out in years to come? Everywhere you look, a reminder of the day they your teen son or daughter was murdered.

 

[Domo]

AR15 with multiple magazines. Two items that have no use other than mass shootings. But there is nothing we can doooooooooo

The three things that can most easily cause mass death are explosive devices, firearms and weapons of mass destruction (gas, bio, dirty and so on). Sadly you can get any of them relatively easily. Ever heard of the Dark Web co-morbid with BitCoin?

 

[MaryAnnDVC]

The local news said it was a former student (19 years old) not a currently enrolled student of the school. My local news has said they have formerly identified the student (chose not to write his name in this post).

Also the local article I was reading said the following:
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I'm wondering if the student interviewed notified anyone be it a parent, a faculty member, even as an anonymous tip. Did anyone else know? I'm just wondering because clearly the student interviewed saw the individual as...IDK off? It would make me very concerned if someone was showing me the guns they had on their phone paired with their behavior which exhibited warning bells.

Years ago, there was a series of bomb threats at my son's high school over several weeks, each time taking 2 hours to sweep the school with students evacuated. They eventually discovered the student making the threats. My daughter told me after his arrest, the kid posted on FB that he had done it, made a huge mistake and had ruined his life (he faced criminal charges and was expelled from school). Someone responded that they didn’t get to say goodbye to him, and he responded that he was going to sneak into the school the following Monday to say goodbye to everyone. Now, is it me or did that sound ominous? Because I called the police and spoke with the officer handling the case, and he pretty much brushed me off. He knew the kid from prior encounters, he was troubled but a nice kid, and he couldn’t get into the school anyway because there’s a security system that requires being buzzed in.” Really??? IDK, I thought I’d hear “thanks for calling. We'll keep our eyes open, warn the school...” Something!

 

[asta]

So sick of the immediate, mindless stomping on the idea of thoughts and prayers.

How can you hear of such tragedy and not have your thoughts and your hearts go to those directly affected? Heaven forbid we upset the great Twittersphere and commit the great offense of taking a beat to make a statement of support.

As for people of faith offering prayers, for the faithful it is quite possibly one of the most powerful actions they can personally bring to the immediate situation in which there is an overwhelming sense of powerlessness. For those who think that's nonsense, so be it. But why spit on what many see as a great source of strength and consolation, offered up with good intentions on behalf of those who are hurting?

I don’t think people are stomping on the idea of thoughts and prayers. Just reacting to the hollowness of that statement being made without the willingness to take any action to try to stop gun violence. Praying and good thoughts alone are not working.

 

[MaryAnnDVC]

Just seeing that the count rose.

 

[sam_gordon]

The federal government. Passed in 1996 or 97, the CDC is banned from studying firearm violence. Google Dickey Amendment.

So no one else can do a study? Start a GoFundMe to pay someone to do a study.

 

[JimMIA]

Thoughts and prayers for all families affected by this terrible incident. It's been horrible to watch on TV here in South Florida...and that's from a retired SWAT Team leader.

I also have to say that it's really pathetic to see everyone -- left and right -- jump in to get their 15 seconds of fame. There was a US Senator on the floor of the Senate making political talking points while this incident was still going on! What a slimy creep.

OK, now go ahead and post your own flavor of political talking points. Your thoughts are much more important than someone's dead child.

 

[TLSnell1981]

So sick of the immediate, mindless stomping on the idea of thoughts and prayers.

How can you hear of such tragedy and not have your thoughts and your hearts go to those directly affected? Heaven forbid we upset the great Twittersphere and commit the great offense of taking a beat to make a statement of support.

As for people of faith offering prayers, for the faithful it is quite possibly one of the most powerful actions they can personally bring to the immediate situation in which there is an overwhelming sense of powerlessness. For those who think that's nonsense, so be it. But why spit on what many see as a great source of strength and consolation, offered up with good intentions on behalf of those who are hurting?

Just one of many things wrong with our society. IMO

Thoughts and (on my knees) heartfelt prayers for the victims and their loved ones.

 

[jalapeno_pretzel]

So no one else can do a study? Start a GoFundMe to pay someone to do a study.

Sure, others can do studies. And they have. But they largely arrive at conclusions that the current federal government prefers to not believe.

 

[TLSnell1981]

So sick of the immediate, mindless stomping on the idea of thoughts and prayers.

How can you hear of such tragedy and not have your thoughts and your hearts go to those directly affected? Heaven forbid we upset the great Twittersphere and commit the great offense of taking a beat to make a statement of support.

As for people of faith offering prayers, for the faithful it is quite possibly one of the most powerful actions they can personally bring to the immediate situation in which there is an overwhelming sense of powerlessness. For those who think that's nonsense, so be it. But why spit on what many see as a great source of strength and consolation, offered up with good intentions on behalf of those who are hurting?

Just one of many things wrong with our society. IMO