School issue: Is this even legal?

ETA: What czycropper said is very on point. By having a policy that doesn't "allow" walking, they wouldn't be liable should something happen.


I disagree with this, policy or not, they could be held liable should a child (or anyone for that fact) is injured on their property. For example, you may have a no soliciting or no trespassing sign on your door, but if someone trips and hurts themselves on an uneven sidewalk on your property you can still be sued.
 
my guess is you have misunderstood. you can certainly walk your child to school. but, you can not send your child walking to school, that child would be considered a "walker". most elementary schools across the country are no longer allowing walkers because it just isnt safe.

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:confused3 Why isn't it safe? Millions of children walk home from school every day. I think it's so sad that that's the perception of people all over America. While I wouldn't let me Kindergartner walk home by himself...I would hope that I would feel comfortable letting a 3rd grader do it. I'm not sure why parents aren't given the authority to make that decision instead of the school.

I do agree with the other posters that said that the schools don't want the liability.
 
my guess is you have misunderstood. you can certainly walk your child to school. but, you can not send your child walking to school, that child would be considered a "walker". most elementary schools across the country are no longer allowing walkers because it just isnt safe.

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:confused3 Why isn't it safe? Millions of children walk home from school every day. I think it's so sad that that's the perception of people all over America. While I wouldn't let me Kindergartner walk home by himself...I would hope that I would feel comfortable letting a 3rd grader do it. I'm not sure why parents aren't given the authority to make that decision instead of the school.

I do agree with the other posters that said that the schools don't want the liability.

just because its safe where you live, doesnt mean its that way across the country. children get abducted, its a part of life we deal with. personally i think its safe in very few areas to send your child to walk to school. people prey on kids that dont have parents walk with them. if you want to let your 8yo walk alone to school, thats your choice. personally i would never do it. how would you ever know they made it?
i think its great that schools are saying,"hey stop letting your small children walk alone, and if you cant make the right decision, we'll do it for you".
im sorry, but seriously, youd let your 8yo walk to school alone? i hope you live next to it.
 
I get so digusted with the Mom's who can't be bothered to walk their kids into school. If it's not raining or you don't have little kids in the car, get yourself out and walk your kid into school! It seems to lazy to me. It's actually quicker too. I did the car lane once when it was raining and it took longer than walking into school.


Why would that make them lazy?
Walking my second grader into her classroom would make her feel like a baby, she doesn't need me to hold her hand through the school halls - I think she'd die of embaressment and I want her to learn independence. How is that lazy?:confused3
 


I don't understand that at all. I dispise the car line. I park my car and walk my daughter into school, I park my car and walk my daughter out of school. This gives me visability in the school and I get to say hello to her teacher twice a day. I visit the classroom in the morning so I get a few moments to see what she is working on.

I get so digusted with the Mom's who can't be bothered to walk their kids into school. If it's not raining or you don't have little kids in the car, get yourself out and walk your kid into school! It seems to lazy to me. It's actually quicker too. I did the car lane once when it was raining and it took longer than walking into school.

I teach in the largest school system in the state and NONE of our schools allow parents to walk a student to the classroom with the exception of the first week of K. It would be mass chaos if all the parents who dropped off walked their kids in. Jane is dropping of little Sally and she sees Mary dropping little Bobby and realizes she forgot to tell her about the neighborhood pool party so they stop in the hall to talk. Mutiply that times 200 parents and what you have is unmanagable.
 
So at my kids' Back to School night the principal starts ranting about how parents aren't using the carpool lane correctly and how their is bussing provided for all students, including those who live right across the street, so they do not "allow" walkers to the school.

As you can tell, I don't have a whole lot of respect for this principal. I totally understand her gripe about parents not using the carpool line correctly. It's not that hard, you enter in entrance A and leave through entrance B. But to say that you CAN'T wallk your kids to school? WTH? Is that even legal? It's all public property? Obviously, I ignore her and walk my kids to school anyway (we are talking about the equivalent of two blocks). I do watch them to make sure they don't get hit by a car or a bus or anything, same as I would if I was walking on any public road. Thoughts?

BTW, we aren't talking about a school on the middle of route I95 or anything. It's pretty much in the middle of subdivision on a dead end street. The road ENDS 100 feet past the school, you don't have people flying down the road 60 miles an hour because you are going to be hitting a huge SIGN real soon.

Great way to start the school year! Why do I have a feeling that you will have *many* little gems like this along the way? Good Luck!
 
just because its safe where you live, doesnt mean its that way across the country. children get abducted, its a part of life we deal with. personally i think its safe in very few areas to send your child to walk to school. people prey on kids that dont have parents walk with them. if you want to let your 8yo walk alone to school, thats your choice. personally i would never do it. how would you ever know they made it?
i think its great that schools are saying,"hey stop letting your small children walk alone, and if you cant make the right decision, we'll do it for you".
im sorry, but seriously, youd let your 8yo walk to school alone? i hope you live next to it.

Seriously? This is a little too "helicopter" for me. I live in Chicago and most kids walk to school - there is no busing unless you are special. Kids even take public transportation to schools.

I would never want to live somewhere that children could not walk to school - maybe you should move to a safer area?
 


Seriously? This is a little too "helicopter" for me. I live in Chicago and most kids walk to school - there is no busing unless you are special. Kids even take public transportation to schools.

I would never want to live somewhere that children could not walk to school - maybe you should move to a safer area?

actually i live in an extremely safe area. i live in a cookie cutter suburban neighborhood.
possibly it shows a difference between inner city schools and suburban schools. our kids dont walk, period. at least not in elementary school.
personally i would never allow my 8yo daughter to go to a school that had her walking to school. but hey, you want your child walk good for you. id much prefer to keep mine safe.
 
just because its safe where you live, doesnt mean its that way across the country. children get abducted, its a part of life we deal with. personally i think its safe in very few areas to send your child to walk to school. people prey on kids that dont have parents walk with them. if you want to let your 8yo walk alone to school, thats your choice. personally i would never do it. how would you ever know they made it?
i think its great that schools are saying,"hey stop letting your small children walk alone, and if you cant make the right decision, we'll do it for you".
im sorry, but seriously, youd let your 8yo walk to school alone? i hope you live next to it.

Wow...isn't this a bit hostile? I asked a pretty common question...why do people think walking to (or from) school is so unsafe? Especially people, like yourself (as you stated in another post), who live in safe neighborhoods? I would not assume that every place in the United States is safe, nor did I say that. I simply said that millions of kids do it safely. Only we, as parents, know what kind of place we live in.

Do freak things happen? Yes. But I hope not to let that consume me. I will say that I would be more likely to let them walk home...so that I am there waiting for them. But to imply that I need the school to make that decision for me because I don't have the skills to do it myself is a little extreme. I hope to make my kids independent, and walking four blocks home from school is a step that they will take when the time is right.
 
Wow...isn't this a bit hostile? I asked a pretty common question...why do people think walking to (or from) school is so unsafe? Especially people, like yourself (as you stated in another post), who live in safe neighborhoods? I would not assume that every place in the United States is safe, nor did I say that. I simply said that millions of kids do it safely. Only we, as parents, know what kind of place we live in.

Do freak things happen? Yes. But I hope not to let that consume me. I will say that I would be more likely to let them walk home...so that I am there waiting for them. But to imply that I need the school to make that decision for me because I don't have the skills to do it myself is a little extreme. I hope to make my kids independent, and walking four blocks home from school is a step that they will take when the time is right.

safe. what does that mean? i walk outside my house and there no drug dealers, gun fire etc. sure its safe. im realistic in the fact that im very lucky in the fact that i dont ahve to fear for my life. nor does my child. there are many places in the country where thats not true. i know because i grew up there. i grew up in an area that i couldnt walk to school in fear of gangs.

ok...but thats not what im talking about. there are predators out there waiting for your child, my child anyones child. did you happen to watch oprah the other day, maybe it was yesterday. if you have a chance watch it on line. this isnt a small problem and its happening in my neighborhood and your neighborhood. it happens everyday. sure the statistics say its happens most often whith someone you know, but they also say that internet porn is increasing, yes increasing the likelyhood that men will go outside the computer to satisfy their sickness. infact there are how to videos on the internet, how to find these young kids, how to get away with it over and over again. there are online support groups for these men. no not support groups to convince them not to do it, but support groups of their peers convincing them that this is normal and that society doesnt get, but that someday we will.
so yes millions of kids get to school safely, but millions dont. its a gamble which side your child will fall on. is it a gamble your willing to take with your 8yo? its not one im willing to take.

i will say that my husbands job unfortunately, or maybe fortunately who knows, puts me into this world. i get to see the piles and piles of cases they deal with. its never ending. and you know what the worst part is? there are just too mnay that they have to choose, thats right choose which ones they think are more dangerous. its laughable, but its life.

of course whenever anyone brings these topics up its always, "well thats extreme". i wish it was. its not. millions of children being violated is not a freak thing. oh how i wish it were.

like you say you cant let it consume you. thats very important. my kids, well my older 2, have the run of the neighborhood. i know these people and theyhahve rules about entering peoples homes. my daughter gets up in the morning and leaves and calls me when she finds a friend thats home to tell me where shell be that day. am i over protective? no. but something like walking to school you dont know the dangers. not only that but the dangers change. predators have cars, doesnt matter where you live. we need to start being realistic as a scociety and stop thinking "that doesnt happen here" because it does, everyday.

of course i agree with making children independant. but really, should an 8yo be that indepandant that they need to walk 4 blocks to school? at that age they need to be bused. we need to put funding into our schools to allow for this. im lucky i live in an area where everyone is bused, doesnt matter if you live next door, the bus picks you up.even at that the bus will not pick you up or drop you off unless there is someone there putting you on and taking you off. so it isnt just walking to school, my daughter isnt even allowed to get off the bus and walk home alone.and if you want to pick your child up from school, you need a pick up tag. every person everytime. but i for one think this is great! i would love to see this happen across the country through 4rth grade. is it going to happen, no. and unfortunately not all parents are home to get their kids to school, but at that age kids just shouldnt be left to their own defense.
 
Great way to start the school year! Why do I have a feeling that you will have *many* little gems like this along the way? Good Luck!

Are you joking? I definitely agree with the "pick your battles" philosophy, but putting my kids on the school bus for TWO BLOCKS is a battle I think is worth fighting. :scared1: Because they are sitting in the bus loop till they get the all clear, the bus ride is about 10-15 minutes. Not horrible, but extremely unnecessary when I can walk them to school in about 3 minutes.

BTW, my kids are in 4th grade and 2nd grade..it's not like I am a first time parent upset and threatening to call the superintendant because I want my kid to have Roseart crayons and the teacher insists on Crayola. This is a battle worth fighting, IMO.

Also, I am not sure if I want to make this a bigger issue by calling out the principal or the superintendant or anything. It was just a blurb in the BTS speech, after all. I figure if she calls me *personally* out on it or whatever I will definitely pursue. Right now, I can just pretend I never went to BTS night or I wasn't paying attention. :laughing:

As for the days-end procedures, all kids who aren't leaving via the bus must be signed out by a parent in the office. There is no carpool in the afternoons, you have to go in and sign out your kid in the office. So I do that, as a walker, just sign the kids out in the office.
 

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