Say Goodbye to the Auction Scene in Pirates

[Gisele]

....and this thread is soon to end......

Lol
Curious how people love to rewrite history isn't it?
Pirates are not young or old republicans or democrats. Pirates do as they please and live to plunder, pillage, cavort and drink...rum....amongst other libations.

Just say NO to pc....

 

[Kender]

Ugh. Just no.

I'm of the opinion that you need things like this to help teach why it's not okay. Why we don't act like this. Why we've grown past such barbaric acts. And, most importantly to me, how we've grown past.

I've been annoyed by every change the past several years. It's always felt like someone is attempting to force a pair of rose tinted glasses in front of my eyes and assume they can make me forget the dark parts of history. Having Captain Jack saturated into the ride was just insult to injury. This makes me want to remove the ride from my list to ever go on again.

 

[Metalliman98]

You know, "political correctness" is often another word for "let's stop being jerks".

There's not being a jerk, and then there's attempting to sanitize/rewrite history.

This is a ride about pirates. Pirates were not nice people. They did awful things. We shouldn't want our children to be like them at all, right?

So we're going to remove a scene that demonstrates their cruelty and immorality, and replace it......with a scene that turns the read head into the next Disney princess? Someone for the little girls to look up to? How does that make sense?

I'm by no means a conservative, but everyday, with the increasing madness, I understand it more, and I get a bit closer.

 

[GatorChris]

Aren't pirates historically bad dudes??? The stuff they did was unspeakable. And now Disney's changing them into privateers earning an honest living. Black Beard is rolling over in Davy Jones locker.

Disney.....just walk away from this one.

 

[DDhunter]

I was never particularly offended by it but I have no problem with the change. Perhaps the depiction of the selling of women doesn't belong in a family park.

 

[rentayenta]

I'm a leftie socialist and I don't think they should change it. Its make believe. They aren't auctioning off a real woman. Whats next, the drunk pirate with the cat; do they change his scene to an AA meeting because addiction is a disease?

 

[Metalliman98]

I was never particularly offended by it but I have no problem with the change. Perhaps the depiction of the selling of women doesn't belong in a family park.

Then I guess the depiction of a bride who decapitated several husbands doesn't belong either.

 

[bdcp]

Whoever said pirates were good people? They should have left the original version with the male pirates chasing the women, because, gee, that is much more historically correct than where they are headed.

 

[lmhall2000]

Nuts....did auctions happen? Is it authentic to the period? Disney is all about immersion into cultures/experiences/fantasy....I would rather my kids understand being a scoundrel pirate is not a good thing. Heck, it was imagined in the 50s wasn't it? 60s? They were 10x more 'conservative' than our society is today....give those imagineers some respect.

 

[OldPyrate]

Not happy! This PC crap is getting ridiculous.

 

[DDhunter]

The more I read the hysteria about the change on this board and others, the more in favor of the change I am. The scene depicts human trafficking. I really hope we are better than this as a culture (though at this moment in time I really have my doubts). Glorifying human trafficking is not okay.

 

[Gisele]

The more I read the hysteria about the change on this board and others, the more in favor of the change I am. The scene depicts human trafficking. I really hope we are better than this as a culture (though at this moment in time I really have my doubts). Glorifying human trafficking is not okay.

As I roll my eyes and laugh......Bahahaha.....

 

[Shanti]

The more I read the hysteria about the change on this board and others, the more in favor of the change I am. The scene depicts human trafficking. I really hope we are better than this as a culture (though at this moment in time I really have my doubts). Glorifying human trafficking is not okay.

The more I read about people wanting to politically sanitize a theme park ride, the more I want the ride to not be sanitized. I want it to keep its theming and its artists' original intent. It's a ride, not a realistic depiction of anything. Leave it the way it is. Why? Because it is great as is, and any meddling changes will likely detract from the quality of the original design.

 

[Gisele]

I believe I shall add an extra day for Knott's and drop but yet another day at nutty corporate Disneyland. Lol

 

[Abbey1]

In regards to the ride being "historically accurate", I don't take my son to Disneyland for a history lesson. We visit museums and actual historic places for that.

At Disneyland, the only history I am concerned with is the history of the park itself. I think Disney does a good job of retaining the nostalgia and honoring its history while continuing to innovate and change with the times.

 

[alvernon90]

Pirates do as they please and live to plunder, pillage, cavort and drink...rum....amongst other libations.

You forgot rape. That's what the whole scene is about. If you have no problem with pirate rape and a theme park ride depicting pirate rape, why won't you put rape in the list of things pirates do? Pirates like rape! Rape is one of their favorite things, especially raping wealthy redheads. So just say it!

 

[WebmasterMaryJo]

Hey guys,

So far this thread has been relatively civil. It's okay to disagree with each other, but if you start insulting or post sarcastic comments towards each other I'm locking this thread.

 

[Azjenn]

I think that it is ridiculous. This PC world that many have decided we need to adhere to, is out of control. People need to put on their big girl/guy (Don't want to be insensitive to anyone )pants and realize that what happened in the past is history and that it happened. You cant just erase it. You can't pretend that it didn't happen and think if you remove any mention of it, it magically goes away from the history books. I have 3 kids, guess what, not once have any of them made a comment about the red head scene. Not once have they asked about the women being sold, nor has the thought about women being raped as someone mentioned previously, ever been a conversation about this ride. It's disney, we all go there to have fun, relax, and immerse ourselves in Walt's world of magic. If they really want to make it PC then the guns, canons, arson, drinking, and pirating should all be removed. So much for the ride! It's quite ridiculous IMO!

 

[HydroGuy]

The more I read the hysteria about the change on this board and others, the more in favor of the change I am. The scene depicts human trafficking. I really hope we are better than this as a culture (though at this moment in time I really have my doubts). Glorifying human trafficking is not okay.

I think you and others here bring up a good point for debate. The question is if they are in fact "glorifying it". As a PP brings up, is Haunted Mansion glorifying women who kill their husbands? Is it glorifying witchcraft with the seance scene? If one really wants to go for social/historical accuracy, in real life princesses came from nobility/royalty which survived on the backs of serfs who were allowed to work the land of the nobles and not treated well at all. Think guillotines in France on Louis the XVI and Marie Antoinette when the commoners finally took power.

You are of course free to interpret as you choose, but I would suggest "glorifying" is not the proper word or idea here. I would say that Disney is definitely romanticizing certain elements which have a historical basis in reality. Which is often what storytellers do. They are not attempting in any way to make serious statements about history or social commentary. They are trying to entertain.

 

[Gisele]

I think you and others here bring up a good point for debate. The question is if they are in fact "glorifying it". As a PP brings up, is Haunted Mansion glorifying women who kill their husbands? Is it glorifying witchcraft with the seance scene? If one really wants to go for social/historical accuracy, in real life princesses came from nobility/royalty which survived on the backs of serfs who were allowed to work the land of the nobles and not treated well at all. Think guillotines in France on Louis the XVI and Marie Antoinette when the commoners finally took power.

You are of course free to interpret as you choose, but I would suggest "glorifying" is not the proper word or idea here. I would say that Disney is definitely romanticizing certain elements which have a historical basis in reality. Which is often what storytellers do. They are not attempting in any way to make serious statements about history or social commentary. They are trying to entertain.

So are you for the change or not?