Saratoga Springs Goes on Sale

[Rash]

I would guess that raising the point price of all other DVC resorts would address the issue you raised.

 

[CarolA]

I think there will be incentives which will bring the price down at first just because there is NO place to stay yet. So... they are pre-selling which would probably require some type of incentive maybe the discount or free nights we saw at BCV. I can see two price tiers though for the original and an extended.

As to the longer years. In the year 2054 I would be 94 years old so somehow this does not really seem too important to me. I figure I will be doing great if I am still alive, much less able to go to Disney! (Can you tell I don't really care what my heirs get! LOL!)

 

[Pinnie]

SSR with the additional 12 yrs will mean nothing to me. I'll be 102 yrs old by 2054

My kids will be in their 70s.....

Not a very good incentive for this family!!!


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[JLS]

Well, as for what FriendsofEeyore said, I don't think we can assume that Disney will be offering Magical Beginnings on the Saratoga Springs points. Maybe, maybe not. But if not, that would mean SS points are $15 per point more than the recently sold BCV points...... which seems about right for the additional usage years.

So for the additional time between the expiration of 2042 and the SSR expiration of 2052, would SSR be the only DVC resort people could stay in??? Would those owning SSR points be the only people who could then use their points (presumably?) That will be interesting!

 

[vernon]

They got the info from a guide on the Disney Cruise line? I'm not convinced. This would probably be the biggest news announcement about DVC since it first started. There is going to be a lot of very unimpressed people if it's leaked.

Why would a guide on the cruise line know the end dates been changed, and more important why would they let it out. Disney will be mighty pi$$ed if this gets into the main domain before they officially announce it. There are also going to be a lot of cross people like "friends of eeyore" who are going to be very annoyed they weren't given the chance to choose the longer contract. IMHO it would be very bad marketting to still be selling one type of lease and start selling another. They would be wiser to have a break between the two. Much of DVC sales are add ons, it doesn't make sense to upset part of your client base if you don't have to.

IMHO , It could be true, it could be someone flapping their gums so they sound like a big shot, it could be someone widing everyone up (because they find it funny, it's certainly got Y'all in a tizzy LOL), or it could be someone trying to put a spoke in Disney's wheel by ramping up expectations and leaving a lot of potential buyers feeling deflated and not so inclined to buy in.

I think I'll wait for an official announcement.

 

[luckytso]

vernon, I can't vouch on the price, because my guide would not confirm the $. However, he did confirm 2054 to be the date.

 

[ncligs]

Originally posted by luckytso
vernon, I can't vouch on the price, because my guide would not confirm the $. However, he did confirm 2054 to be the date.

My guide also confirmed tonight(7-18) the extra 12 years(2054) and $89 pt. He also said VB only has Oct use yr left(13,000 pts). He expects BCV's and VB both to be sold out by next month.They also haven't disclosed what type of incentive for pre-sales of SSR.

 

[tvwalsh]

Why couldn't DVC start selling all new contracts as of a certain date at $89 with the new end date? Any ROFR's could be rewritten to change the end date, too.

Resellers would, of course, not be able to offer the lease rewrite putting DVC in the driver seat.

We (present owners) would be offered the rewrite at say, 10-20 dollars per point. take it or leave it.

 

[Richyams]

Well, as for what FriendsofEeyore said, I don't think we can assume that Disney will be offering Magical Beginnings on the Saratoga Springs points. Maybe, maybe not. But if not, that would mean SS points are $15 per point more than the recently sold BCV points

????

Is that true?

The extra year's worth of points has some value. doesn't it?

Or was this actually...is this? The current deal, $10 off and you keep your first year's points?

I know I heard something like that, but I thought it was at a non-WDW resort. If I am not mistaken, its not $15, it is only $5.

 

[luckytso]

I am so intruged about this additional 12 years. What is the best way to price these additional points ? Then I can subtract it to come to comparable price per point to see how they compare to current resorts.

Also, how do you use the quote to include the poster's name. when I use quote, I do copy and paste under quote. but the name does not show up.

 

[JLS]

Richyams - what I was trying to explain was this:

The current price for BCV points is $84 per point. But, they offer Magical Beginnings, which is a $10 per point reduction in price if you "sell back" your first year's points. In May we bought 300 BCV points, December use year. We had the choice of paying $84 per point and having 300 points from the 2002 use year available right away, OR, "selling back" those points to DVC and dropping the price to $74 per point. So we end up with our first points coming on December 1, 2003.

FriendsofEeyore was saying, how can they charge only $5 more per point for SSR but give 12 more years of use on the lease? My response was that the price difference would only be $5 per point IF there was Magical Beginnings offered. If SSR does not offer Magical Beginnings, then the price is $89 per point, as opposed to $74 per point - a $15 per point difference. But yes, the "loss" of your first year's points certainly has value, too, if you take advantage of MB. If you assume you could rent those points out for $10 per point, then maybe MB doesn't really make a difference.

Anyway, now that I have confused myself..........It will be interesting to see what the sales incentives are for SSR.

 

[lehrsj]

Hmmm. It would seem to me that if BCV is selling for $84 a point for 39 years or so and SSR will be selling for $89 for 50 years that it would make sense to offer existing members the option to extend their points to 2054 for $5 a point.

 

[Geoff_M]

I asked this once on another thread, but it's worth asking here too...

If they do offer an extension, would it require another closing to change the deeds???

 

[ncligs]

Originally posted by luckytso
Also, how do you use the quote to include the poster's name. when I use quote, I do copy and paste under quote. but the name does not show up.

Instead of clicking on "post reply"......just click on "quote"........then then that person's post will appear at the top of your reply post. You can then edit or take out the part you don't need for your post.

 

[luckytso]

ncligs, thanks, of course it has to be the button staring right at me that I dont' see

 

[GOODFELLA]

Oh my God 2054 I can't think that far a head,I'll be lets say 80 something Lets not rush things people the extra 12 years sonds great, but I hope I'm still kicking

 

[sgtpet]

I would be 84. They should offer the current DVC folks the extra years for an extra $5 per point if they do that for SSR.

Time will tell. DVC isn't exactly fair.

 

[AnnaS]

We just came back from our July 5th West. Cruise and stayed at OKW for the first time for four nights. On Tues. July 15th when we attended the member day barbeque, I met with my guide. She also told me they would start selling Saratoga in August, scheduled to open May 2004. Selling price $89. Did not know incentives yet and will expire 2054 - she said they knew it the extended date would happen soon. (BTW - of course dh wanted an additional 50 BCV points). Very addicting.

 

[Caskbill]

2054? I'd be 110 years old then. I guess by then the Spa at SSr would be a medical necessity. Wonder if Medicare would cover buying points????

 

[Richyams]

The current price for BCV points is $84 per point. But, they offer Magical Beginnings, which is a $10 per point reduction in price if you "sell back" your first year's points. In May we bought 300 BCV points, December use year. We had the choice of paying $84 per point and having 300 points from the 2002 use year available right away, OR, "selling back" those points to DVC and dropping the price to $74 per point. So we end up with our first points coming on December 1, 2003.

That's what I thought...then how can you call that a $15 difference? Did you know that you could rent those 'given up points for $10 each?

You will still get a use year that starts several months ago.

I am sorry, but this is misinformation that is constantly bandied about. People saying 'resale is the same as direct with MB" and that is simply not a true statement. Just like saying that "If MB is not offered, then there is a $15 difference" this is just simply not true. It is a $5 difference no matter how you look at it.