Sales of SSR effect booking availability for other DVC resorts?

[lenshanem]

I see many posts about people buying at SSR and that is great! I hope it does well, but it makes me curious...
Are many of these people ever going to stay at SSR or are they buying at SSR manly to get into the other DVC resorts?
In other words, are we going to be seeing the importance of the 11 month window more so in the next couple years?
If so, has this ever been a concern before?
Or did all the other new DVC resorts just seem more appealing due to location?
I could be happy having to stay at BCV every trip, but it is nice to have the option of some variety. Personally, VWL will be one we'll want to stay at (I know.. I know...) and I wouldn't mind BWV and maybe even SSR from time to time. The pool there looks promising, theme pools with slides we like!
Any thoughts?

 

[Happy Birthday Cat]

With over 75,000 members already, the 11 month window will be more important than ever as SSR gets going strong. It is obvious from other posts that guides are selling it based on being able to try out the other resorts.

I think this will heavily impact the two smaller resorts the most, (VWL and BCV). When the 7 month window opens for a date it will be very competitive. It will probably become harder to get dates once you get inside the 7 month window than it is now.

HBC

 

[Granny]

The "hard to get at 7 months" theory depends on the assumption that people who are buying SSR will mostly, or in large part, want to stay elsewhere. I'm not so sure that will be true.

First of all, SSR looks like it will be another first class DVC resort. And those who own there are likely to stay there the first trip. We all know that if you have a "magical" trip your first DVC trip, that will make that resort very special to you.

And don't forget that BWV, BCV and VWL have the highest point requirements for a stay...that will dissuade many from staying there, especially if the BWV standard view becomes more difficult to obtain.

Still, I think that the 7 month window may become a little tougher. But you have to remember, the other 74,000 members don't live, eat and breath DVC the way we do on these boards. And likely, they don't call MS at 9:00 a.m. on the first available day.

It will be interesting to watch. And of course, that's why we continue to counsel to newcomers to always buy where you want to stay the most!

 

[arminnie]

I just bought at SSR, and I can't wait to stay there. The location near PI and DTD was very appealing to me. I love to shop.

I might like to try VWL and OKW some time in the future just for variety - but I have a tendency to like to stay at the same place so I might not ever get around to it.

I'm not a big fan of the Boardwalk. Part of it has to do with staying at BWI when it was fairly new and the service was just awful. I first looked at BWV while I was there.

Before you BWV and BCV owners start to disagree with me let me explain that the other part has to do with my mother being diagnosed with a recurrence of breast cancer while I was there. She thought she had beaten it after 10 years but discovered that it had spread to her liver and lungs. She managed to live another 2 1/2 years, but it was not a good time in my life. When I think of the Boardwalk it just doesn't bring back happy memories because of my personal situation.

 

[KANSAS]

i think the 7 month window, becomes more important at OKW, because of SSR&S.
So many less points, especially for grand villa

 

[disneycrazed139]

Arminnie, sorry to hear about your loss. It is understandable how you feel.

Likewise, I can't wait to stay at SSR. I also thought that maybe with all the rooms that will be available at the new, bigger resort, and all the people wanting to try SSR, that there might actually be more space availability at other DVCs than usual? (at least until everyone's had a chance to try SSR out)

 

[DrTomorrow]

Personally, we plan on spending most of our points at SSR&S; of course, we'll be trying out the others, too!

I'm with disneycrazed139; I figured that "the new place" would get a lot of interest in the first few years from owners at other resorts, freeing up some room there.

And KANSAS - way to remember the "&S"! Let's remind the world, We've got a SPA! (But I fear that the need for TLAs will doom the &S to a lonely fate....)

 

[RweTHEREyet]

I think it will work just the opposite way. I think anytime a new resort opens, that non-owners are trying to reserve time there. I think it may open up some availability at the DVC resorts that already exist.

Just because SSR may not appeal to some existing DVC owners doesn't mean it won't appeal to anyone else.

My family almost always ends up at Downtown Disney in the evenings and I think that the new SSR location is a good one.

 

[lenshanem]

I really do hope SSR is great. The pool lokks very promising and I liek the idea of the food court. I actually hate the way BCV is so limited in food, especially for rainy days!

(On a side note - how is BWV in thsi respect? I know it ahs restaurants on the outside, but if it is raining....? And do they have anything there for breakfast except the bakery?)

Things I don't think i'll liek at SSR is the parking in front of your buliding. I know to most this is wonderful, but I like the idea of not seeing my car or getting in it for liek a week. I also like the more hotle type layout where you can walk alla roudn inside and to the lobby on rainy days without ever getting wet.
I wonder if SSr will have covered walkways?

Really I don't mind being at BCV each trip with the exception of VWL. I guess our future might consist of waitlisting there or trying to trade out our BCV points for VWL points to amke ressies alter down the road.

But, I do get the feeling many guides tempt with the idea you can stay all over no problems as a selling point. I know I was told this even when i was trying to add on and wnated VWl so badly. I ended up just adding on at BCV cause I coudln't stand the wait and not knowing if any VWl poinst woudl ever coem through for us. I really liek my guide, but I think you've got to understand that they are trying to sell you soemthing and you will get advice on thsi board such as buy where you most want to stay more than you'll ever hear a guide tell you.

My family almost always ends up at Downtown Disney in the evenings and I think that the new SSR location is a good one.

Actually, you bring up a good point. SSr will be nice during thsoe times of year that the parks close early. You cna walk over to shop or eat at DTD in the evenings.

 

[lenshanem]

Still thinking...
I woudl think DVc would really wnat SSr to be very appealing, thus they make a really nice resort.
It si really the only resort to buy through them right now, plus let's face it -
They must have thought they needed an edge to sell it, so longer contract date than BCV had (Even though contract date was getting shorter they knew they coudl sell out BCv with it.) and the lower points.
Surely, they will not disappoint. I really hope it looks nice land not a hodge podge of the former DI like a "let's try to save this place by changing it into a DVC resort".

 

[Laurabearz]

We spread our points out to 3 differernt onsite home resorts, because we feel the 11 month window will become very important in the near future.

With that said.... I cant wait to stay at SSR&S and we are even toying with the idea of trying to book it for next November.....

 

[RoutemanDan]

I bought SSR to stay at SSR.

Originally posted by KANSAS
i think the 7 month window, becomes more important at OKW, because of SSR&S.
So many less points, especially for grand villa

In a dream maybe. I don't think it will ever be hard to get a room at OKW.

 

[lenshanem]

In a dream maybe. I don't think it will ever be hard to get a room at OKW.

Why is this? It is confusing, cause I read how much everyoen loves OKW, but then there is always availability there. Is it because of the pool and lack of slide and theme? And/or location?
Personally, I don't ahev a desire to stay there cause my kids are fish and we spend a lot of time midday at the pools.

 

[LIFERBABE]

I visited SSR model Labor Day Week and it looks great and we may like to stay there one day but I bought BCV thinking If that was the only place we could stay for the next 38 years we would be happy.

SSR will be large and if they can sell out shares in each unit, membership will surpass 100,000 easily.
Every DVC but OKW is in the same boat pointwise with a few exceptions.

I do think with so many members added, it will be more difficult to book the smaller resorts and OKW at 7 mos.

I know I looked at all the DVC Point Charts to see how I could maximize our points, when making my decision to buy and Im sure others do also. If it had not been for these boards, I would not know how difficult it is to book Std. Views at 7 mos. and would be planning my points around that. Many new members will.

 

[CRobin]

Originally posted by lenshanem
It is confusing, cause I read how much everyoen loves OKW, but then there is always availability there. Is it because of the pool and lack of slide and theme? And/or location?

Those probably are considerations for some (not me) but having 531 units gives OKW almost a 40% higher potential occupancy than the next largest resort (BWV). If at any given resort, X% of the units are made available due to trades for DCL, DC, etc., and OKW is representative of the population, then they will always have more units available.

JMHO.

 

[pumpkinboy]

Maybe I am thick or distracted by the approach of pumpkin season and all, but I don't think I have seen a point chart for SSR&S. Yeah, the 7 month window is not yet open (being a BWV member) but just for planning purposes I think I would want to know. And those of you who have bought in there, I cannot imagine that they would not have given you some expectation of what your points would buy. Is there a URL someone could point me to?

 

[OneMoreTry]

If more SSR members are trying to book other resorts than "outside" members are trying to book at SSR, then it will be harder to book at the other resorts.

Supply and demand.


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I think the pool becomes less important once you've stayed at a resort a few times. There's only so many times you can go down a slide or float around on a tube. For pool fun we use the water parks. For a dip it doesn't matter which resort we're at.

 

[tjkraz]

Originally posted by pumpkinboy
And those of you who have bought in there, I cannot imagine that they would not have given you some expectation of what your points would buy. Is there a URL someone could point me to?

You are correct. Points have been determined and were detailed in the SSR purchase documentation. Here's a link to a post that compared the DVC resorts:

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=416317

Gotta love the 50 yrs, plus point costs second only to OKW.

 

[tjkraz]

I can't honestly say that I will ever feel disappointed at having to "settle" for SSR. Sure, we'll want to try out some of the other resorts, availability permitting. But we bought SSR because we love SSR--at least as much as you can based upon artist renderings.