Running late

[Nancyg56]

Within 15 min, they will not turn you away. They have the *right* to turn away anyone for any reason other than protected classes. They don't do it.

I give up.

 

[kaytieeldr]

I'm still waiting for the example of the person who was 1 minute late and was told to leave the restaurant. Doesn't exist...

One minute us entirely different from the 15 minutes originally stated.

 

[kaytieeldr]

Within 15 min, they will not turn you away. They have the *right* to turn away anyone for any reason other than protected classes. They don't do it.

 

[rdaky]

Why not just change your FP or fix your dining reservation? Having your bus break down or a ride breaks down or something that causes you to be late is one thing. Showing up to an ADR 15 minutes late when it was completely preventable is pretty rude.

We've never needed a FP for the Frozen show. Even in the first year when it came out. Just go at a different time.

 

[LilyWDW]

Within 15 min, they will not turn you away. They have the *right* to turn away anyone for any reason other than protected classes. They don't do it.

I have personally seen someone get turned away after being less then 10 minutes late. I even asked the CM about it. The restaurant was already behind, they were taking no walk ups, and the person was late. They reserve the right to turn you away if you are late. Period.

 

[maxiesmom]

Within 15 min, they will not turn you away. They have the *right* to turn away anyone for any reason other than protected classes. They don't do it.

Not true!!!!!!

 

[Nancyg56]

I have personally seen someone get turned away after being less then 10 minutes late. I even asked the CM about it. The restaurant was already behind, they were taking no walk ups, and the person was late. They reserve the right to turn you away if you are late. Period.

Not true!!!!!!

Sometimes you run into someone who just will not let facts interfere with his opinion. You know it happens. I now it happens. However some people insist it does not, and I have no idea what that is based on. I gave up earlier in the thread.

 

[LilyWDW]

Sometimes you run into someone who just will not let facts interfere with his opinion. You know it happens. I now it happens. However some people insist it does not, and I have no idea what that is based on. I gave up earlier in the thread.

I just don't want other readers to think they will be okay showing up late because someone wants to argue and give incorrect advice.

 

[rdaky]

I just don't want other readers to think they will be okay showing up late because someone wants to argue and give incorrect advice.

I'll say it again. Maybe people could just be considerate and plan to show up ON TIME for their ADR. Then this discussion wouldn't even taking place. Amazingly, we've booked countless Fast Passes and ADRs and watched parades and shows and park hopped, and we've NEVER been late to an ADR due to our own poor time management.

 

[freshmanjs]

One minute us entirely different from the 15 minutes originally stated.

The period being discussed was from 0-15 min late. I agree that after 15, they may turn you away (but often they won't).

Within tha trange, where is the point at which it switches, if 1 is totally different from 15? (hint: it's 15).

 

[freshmanjs]

I'll say it again. Maybe people could just be considerate and plan to show up ON TIME for their ADR. Then this discussion wouldn't even taking place. Amazingly, we've booked countless Fast Passes and ADRs and watched parades and shows and park hopped, and we've NEVER been late to an ADR due to our own poor time management.

There is no way to create 100% certainty you will be on time. Everyone makes a tradeoff whenever they go somewhere about what risk they are willing to take to be late. This calculation is based on the cost of being late vs. the inconvenience of being early. It's a classic operations issue called "the newsvender problem." There is no such thing as planning to be "ON TIME." Only planning for a certain likelihood of being on time.

 

[rdaky]

There is no way to create 100% certainty you will be on time. Everyone makes a tradeoff whenever they go somewhere about what risk they are willing to take to be late. This calculation is based on the cost of being late vs. the inconvenience of being early. It's a classic operations issue called "the newsvender problem." There is no such thing as planning to be "ON TIME." Only planning for a certain likelihood of being on time.

No, you can't create 100% certainty that you'll be on time because there are factors that come into play. But planning to watch a show that happens at the same time as a dinner reservation is not a risk. It's completely planning to be late.

 

[freshmanjs]

They reserve the right to turn you away if you are late. Period.

Why are you talking about rights? Of course they have the right to turn anyone away for any reason (with a few well known exceptions).

Here's an equally true statement: "They reserve the right to turn you away if they don't like your haircut. Period."

 

[ENJDisneyFan]

There is no way to create 100% certainty you will be on time.

Just like there's no way to say with 100% certainty that you won't be turned away if you are late for a reservation.

 

[freshmanjs]

Just like there's no way to say with 100% certainty that you won't be turned away if you are late for a reservation.

Wow, that is just incorrect logic. The fact that one thing is not 100% certain does NOT imply that nothing is 100% certain. lol.

 

[freshmanjs]

I have personally seen someone get turned away after being less then 10 minutes late. I even asked the CM about it. The restaurant was already behind, they were taking no walk ups, and the person was late. They reserve the right to turn you away if you are late. Period.

If they were turning away and charging no-show fees for folks who were 10 minutes late, we would see people posting and complaining about that on these boards. There would be massive discussion about it.

 

[ENJDisneyFan]

Wow, that is just incorrect logic. The fact that one thing is not 100% certain does NOT imply that nothing is 100% certain. lol.

I'm not sure why you are continuing to argue about this. Lots of "newbies" come to this board looking for advice. To state that "Within 15 min, they will not turn you away." is bad advice, because they certainly could and do turn people away for being late. Multiple people on this thread have stated that you are incorrect, yet you continue to argue?

 

[GillianP1301]

Regardless of a 15 minute grace period or not (my opinion is this is not official, likely okay, but not guaranteed), I personally would not be comfortable with a plan that had me showing up at an ADR late and I would change something. I just know how I am and I would just worry about it the whole time and if I can find a way to remove stress from my life I take it, so in the OP's case I would look for a slightly later ADR or consider a different show time for Frozen.

 

[Nancyg56]

If they were turning away and charging no-show fees for folks who were 10 minutes late, we would see people posting and complaining about that on these boards. There would be massive discussion about it.

Okay, you are continuing to insist Disney restaurants will never turn away late folks, and refuse to acknowledge that some of us have either observed this or have actually encountered it ourselves, The problem with your arbitrary statement is that per Disney, there is NO grace period. Not one minute....although I would imagine a minute late is not the same as 15 minutes late in the eyes of a restaurant host. The reality is that since the advent of FP booking in advance, guests have been trying to squeeze FP times into timeframes that have ADR's that were made in advance of the FP, and some restaurants that are notoriously busy or filled have been refusing to accommodate the late arrivals. Should you arrive late to Olivia's I bet a buck the greeter will seat you in a timely manner, but late to BOG dinner? Not likely any more. 'Ohana? If they are backed up 45 minutes, you may be turned away.

Newbies look here for accurate information, and if we continue to sell the news that it is fine to show up late so that they can try to manage plans that are not at all logistically possible, no harm no foul, we are doing them a disservice. Just as Disney has become wise to the "Oh dear, there is a mistake on our ADR, we have 2 more people than you have" strategy when an ADR for 6 was not available, and will on occasion turn the additional 2 folks away, they are also making changes to the leniency they once accorded late arrivals.

While you are comfortable selling news that all will be well if a guest is booking two places at the same time, and arriving late to one in order to have it all, most of us are not. WE have observed what yo insist is never going to happen, and we want to avoid potential disappointment. Better to make an adjustment in advance when it is possible, rather than try to regroup if your ADR has been passed over and you are sent to a CS for dinner.

 

[Catvondita]

This happened to me once and I in my ignorance thought I could call the restaurant and give a heads up like "were on our way just running late" like you could anywhere else. I went crazy trying to find the number for the restaurant, calling the dining number and asking if they could transfer me to the restaurant (they couldn't). Finally I got a hold of someone who told me I get 15 minutes and if I come after that I'll still get seated but it may take longer. This is after I kept trying to push the reservation time back on the app.