Runners - half marathon ?

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DS recently found out about a half marathon fund raising run that he'd really like to do.....it's in the later part of April. Now I used to like distance running but it's been years.......still active but not that active. DS is in good physical condition but not a huge athlete. He is 12.

I'm not sure if he is up to it really. I don't think he understands 13+ miles is a long way. I don't want to discourage him from ever doing it but I'm thinking if he really wants to do it we need to train for more than 3 1/3 months.

Any opinions?

Anyone else have kids this age that have done a half marathon?

Thanks!
 
My DH just ran a 1/2 marathon in October and I was surprised to see how many 12yos and up ran it!
My DS14, almost 15 is running in his first 1/2 marathon in April, but he started out in Cross Country and has been running since June of this past summer. The timeframe is doable, but may be tough depending on how dedicated he wants to be. There are links to running sites on the WISH board that might be helpful, and you can post there too.
Best wishes to him! I think it's awesome that he wants to do it!
 
Is it doable? Yep. Is it doable for your son? Depends on his training base. If he gets out and does some training runs he should know if he is able to do a half. I am of the opinion that if you can do a ten mile training run you can do a half marathon.

In the summer when my training miles are up I could decide the day of a race that I am doing a half. In the winter when my training base is down it might take me a couple of weeks to do it at a pace I would find acceptable for myself.

The biggest thing is to have your son get out there and do some miles to see if he is ready.
 
Thanks for the replies. Will try to get him to the track this weekend and do some distance or maybe out to the park in some different terrain might be better. It will be through Nashville so he should be prepared for it not to be a level running area for the course.

At least I know it's possible to reach that point and other kids this age are doing the same thing. He's hiked on many distance hikes with the scouts but never been in a race type thing like this.

We will discuss it more tonight and this weekend. He will also have to raise money the team he wants to run requires the runner to raise $1000.
 

Thanks for the replies. Will try to get him to the track this weekend and do some distance or maybe out to the park in some different terrain might be better. It will be through Nashville so he should be prepared for it not to be a level running area for the course.

At least I know it's possible to reach that point and other kids this age are doing the same thing. He's hiked on many distance hikes with the scouts but never been in a race type thing like this.

We will discuss it more tonight and this weekend. He will also have to raise money the team he wants to run requires the runner to raise $1000.

Is it the Country Music Marathon/half Marathon? I did the race twice and it is a hilly race. They actually reverted back to the original hillier course last year. It is a pretty tough race so he needs to be prepared. I am not sure where you live but if it is in the north there is a chance the race will be much warmer then your son is used to. Last year it was about 80 which wouldn't have been bad except that the warmest run I had that year up to that point was 51.

I don't want to scare you or him off of it. The race is great. Nashville rolls out the red carpet and there is a lot of support on the course. It is easy for Disney to put on the WDW race logistically because it is on their property and they control the traffic and everything (except the weather). The Competitor Group (which used to be Elite Racing) puts on a lot of races and every one that I have done has been top notch.

If it is the CMM I have a hotel recommendation. If it is not I hope you didn't waste too much time reading this response. :goodvibes
 
Is it the Country Music Marathon/half Marathon? I did the race twice and it is a hilly race. They actually reverted back to the original hillier course last year. It is a pretty tough race so he needs to be prepared. I am not sure where you live but if it is in the north there is a chance the race will be much warmer then your son is used to. Last year it was about 80 which wouldn't have been bad except that the warmest run I had that year up to that point was 51.

I don't want to scare you or him off of it. The race is great. Nashville rolls out the red carpet and there is a lot of support on the course. It is easy for Disney to put on the WDW race logistically because it is on their property and they control the traffic and everything (except the weather). The Competitor Group (which used to be Elite Racing) puts on a lot of races and every one that I have done has been top notch.

If it is the CMM I have a hotel recommendation. If it is not I hope you didn't waste too much time reading this response. :goodvibes

It's listed as Run for Hope I think.......he is a huge TobyMac fan and Toby has a team you can sign up to run with .....Run with TobyMac........

We've been in Nashville a lot and I was thinking it's probably going to be a pretty hilly race. We are in Tennessee as well....further south, closer to the GA line, not a whole lot of difference in temp....maybe 10 degrees at the most and Nashville is usually cooler than we are.

He wouldn't be so much concerned with winning the race, I just want him to be able to finish it if we decided to give it a go, even if he ends up walking part of the course. I think the biggest draw for him is team members get to have dinner with Toby the Friday before the race and there will be a small concert/performance.
 
My friend and I are doing a program called couch to 5k in 9 weeks, Google it, maybe that would help him...
 
It's listed as Run for Hope I think.......he is a huge TobyMac fan and Toby has a team you can sign up to run with .....Run with TobyMac........

We've been in Nashville a lot and I was thinking it's probably going to be a pretty hilly race. We are in Tennessee as well....further south, closer to the GA line, not a whole lot of difference in temp....maybe 10 degrees at the most and Nashville is usually cooler than we are.

He wouldn't be so much concerned with winning the race, I just want him to be able to finish it if we decided to give it a go, even if he ends up walking part of the course. I think the biggest draw for him is team members get to have dinner with Toby the Friday before the race and there will be a small concert/performance.

It looks like it is the Country Music Marathon according to the site. It looks like they run it as a group in the same way Team in Training Does.

It is a really well organized race and I recommend it. As long as he gets out there are trains so he knows what his body is capable of I think he can finish. The thing to caution him about is the speed at which he starts out. A lot of kids (and even adults) go out at the beginning like they are running a 5K but after they finish that first 5 kilometers they still have 10 miles to go and bomb out. The mental part of a full or half marathon is just as difficult as the the physical. At the beginning you have to run below you maximum to keep enough energy for the end and as you get to the end you have to have the ability to stay focused and concentrate on form and breathing and stuff like that.

As long as he starts now and gets a base in I think he can do it. If he doesn't get out and build up some base mileage he could be disappointed.
 
My friend and I are doing a program called couch to 5k in 9 weeks, Google it, maybe that would help him...

Thanks! I'll definately look into that. If he runs I guess DH or I will run as well, I definately need a game plan and this would give me a good excuse/good cause to get back into running......and better shape.
 
I'd recommend a good training schedule.

Runner's World has one available online here, for beginners, experts, and anyone in between:
http://www.runnersworld.com/article/0,7120,s6-238-244-258-6851-0,00.html

It is a 9 week schedule, so if he starts now, he should be ready.

Here's the recommended schedule for beginners:
Beginner

Profile
You've run for at least a year, but you're still a racing neophyte. You can run 5 miles at a time without distress, average 15 to 20 miles a week, and have finished a 5-K, perhaps even a 10-K. Now you want to go longer, though not yet to a marathon, and your race time is less important to you than finishing.

Schedule Tips
As a beginner, you're going to do two things: First, incrementally increase your weekly mileage and long run, which translates into more endurance. You'll need this in order to run for more than 2 hours. Second, you'll do some gradually longer bits of running at faster than your normal pace to build up your stamina and keep you strong over the last third of the race.

"Even for a beginner, two of your training days a week should be challenging," says Portland, Oregon-based coach Bob Williams (pacethyself.com), a certifiable wizard in getting results from novices. "The goal here," he says, "is to boost the endurance needed to run 13.1 miles." To this end, if you can handle it, make uphill running a part of your Thursday routine.

Note: That in week 7 or 8, you'll log 10 miles--your first-ever double-digit run--a worthy achievement in its own right. The runner's universal rite-of-passage.


Week M T W T F S S Total
1 Rest 2 miles. 5-7x1:00 AI, 2 miles Rest 4 miles + 4 GP Rest 3-4 miles 6-7 miles 19-21 miles
2 Rest 2 miles, 5-7x1:00 AI, 2 miles Rest 4 miles + 4 GP Rest 3-4 miles 6-7 miles 19-21 miles
3 Rest 2 miles, 2x[1:00, 1:30, 2:00] AI, 2 miles Rest 4 miles, incl. 4x1:00 AI + 5-6 GP Rest 5-K race 4-5 miles 22-24 miles
4 Rest 3 miles,3x[2:00, 2:30] AI, 2 miles Rest 5-6 miles, incl. 4x1:30 AI + 6 GP Rest 3-4 miles 7-8 miles 24-26 miles
5 Rest 3 miles, 3x[2:00, 2:30] AI, 2 miles Rest 5-6 miles, incl. 4x1:30 AI + 6 GP Rest 3-4 miles 7-8 miles 24-26 miles
6 Rest 3 miles, 2x2:00 AI, 2x2:30 AI, 1x3:00 AI+6 GP, 2 miles Rest 5-6 miles + 4 GP Rest 10-K race 4 miles 27-30 miles
7 Rest 3 miles, 2x[2:00. 3:00, 4:00] AI, 2 miles Rest 6 miles, incl. 4x2:00 AI + 6 GP Rest 5-6 miles 9-10 miles 32-34 miles
8 Rest 3 miles, 2x[2:00. 3:00, 4:00] AI, 2 miles Rest 6 miles, incl. 4x2:00 AI+ 6 GP Rest 5-6miles 9-10 miles 32-34 miles
Taper Rest 2 miles, 4x1:00 AI Rest 2 miles easy, 4 x GP Rest 2miles Half-marathon race


Aerobic Intervals (AI): You push the pace. But just a little. Find a tempo that feels somewhere between comfortable and "Hey, I'm workin' a little here." Don't run this too hard. Trying to add too much intensity while you're also increasing mileage spells I-N-J-U-R-Y. When you finish the timed AI, jog very slowly until your breathing returns to normal, then work back into your regular pace. On all other days, just run your assigned miles as you feel.

Gentle Pickups (GP): At the end of your run, walk for several minutes, then slowly increase your leg turnover on a flat stretch for 100 meters--the straightaway on a track--up to the point where you start to breathe hard. Hold it there for 10 to 20 meters, then gradually slow down. Walk to full recovery before you start the next one. The purpose of both AI and GP is to improve your stamina, leg speed, running efficiency, and to make your normal pace feel more comfortable. What's more, this kind of up-tempo running adds variety to your training. Always a good thing.

Race Day Rules Start at the back of the pack, and run more slowly than you think you should for the first few miles. Keep it reined in. Stay completely, totally comfortable. Work your way into a controlled rhythm as the race proceeds, and stop at every aid station. Don't slow down, stop. Drink plenty, eat some, rest a bit (but no more than 30 seconds), stretch your legs if you need to. Then get going again. With a well-rested body from your taper week, and thanks to race-day adrenaline and the energy of the field, you'll get through the last 3 miles fine, perhaps even enjoy them.

Well the formatting on the chart did not come out right, but if you go to the website, you can see it.
 
Thanks Deb! I found a 12 week schedule that looks very similar. Also found some info from a running coach though that said that young runners should have a day off between every 2 running/training days so I guess we need to look at it and maybe modify it a bit.
 
For those of you who have done these before.....are there many walkers who participate in the marathons?
 
For those of you who have done these before.....are there many walkers who participate in the marathons?

Yes. In fact we had a very big WISH meet at the race last year and many of the people in our group walked the race.

There is essentially no time limit for the half, only the full.

Course Time Limits

Due to road closure time constraints, all Marathon participants who reach the 11-mile mark (the location where the Marathon and Half Marathon courses separate) at 10:40 am or later (16:30 per mile pace / 7:12 marathon) will be directed to finish the ½ Marathon course. All participants planning to run the Marathon are encouraged to train to complete the race in less than 7 hours – the official course time limit.


Even if you reach the split after the allotted time you will still be able to continue to the finish along with the full marathon runners who get there after 10:40.
 











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