Rumors of Light (ROL discussion thread)

It's early access to three rides plus breakfast. Personally, I have FPs for two of the three included rides, and I have a CP ADR but I will be able to get the TiW discount on that, so this price isn't worth it for me.
Like you, I have fps for all three of the rides mentioned in their ad. (just in case - I know how Disney likes to throw a monkey wrench in the early morning ADRs so I planned accordingly) The good news is that we don't have to have the unpleasant experience (for us) of having to get the kids up so early and drag them to the park for their 8 am adr, we can just wait until our fp time. All I ask is that they announce the hours in time for me to cancel my 8 am BOG ressie.
 
Have they published the price? I can't believe that there would only be three rides?

Disney hasn't published the price, but it's stated in the post I copied from the Dibb (which usually comes from a reliable source).

I believe the three rides - there's really only an hour to ride before the rope drop crowd enters, and this way they limit the number of CMs they need to staff the early opening.
 
Honestly the early morning thing doesn't bother me in the least. I may get flamed for saying this but I think sharing one meal among 4 adults for $24 at BOG, and then dashing to get on to 7DMT, is wrong. This could be Disney's answer to all of this. You want to get on 7DMT 2 times before the rest of the crowds arrive? Fine, you'll pay for it.
I have the 8 am adr for the pleasure of walking through MK without the crowds. I never assumed it would give me an advantage to the rides. Would be nice but yes, I got fps anyway. Plus I wasn't going to ride 7DMT nor was my DGD3.
 

Disney hasn't published the price, but it's stated in the post I copied from the Dibb (which usually comes from a reliable source).

I believe the three rides - there's really only an hour to ride before the rope drop crowd enters, and this way they limit the number of CMs they need to staff the early opening.

That was my thought too. I mean maybe they'll add a 4th ride or something depending on the outcome of this, but maybe for the number of guests they're thinking, 3 rides keeps the operating costs down.
 
I have the 8 am adr for the pleasure of walking through MK without the crowds. I never assumed it would give me an advantage to the rides. Would be nice but yes, I got fps anyway. Plus I wasn't going to ride 7DMT nor was my DGD3.

Oh I totally hear you! I like CP for that reason and I'd maybe do a BOG reservation for some early morning quietness in the parks. I'm just referencing those who may take advantage.
 
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Disney hasn't published the price, but it's stated in the post I copied from the Dibb (which usually comes from a reliable source).

I believe the three rides - there's really only an hour to ride before the rope drop crowd enters, and this way they limit the number of CMs they need to staff the early opening.

Oh, no doubt it makes sense for them! Now I just have to worry if it will affect my days...
 
Honestly the early morning thing doesn't bother me in the least. I may get flamed for saying this but I think sharing one meal among 4 adults for $24 at BOG, and then dashing to get on to 7DMT, is wrong. This could be Disney's answer to all of this. You want to get on 7DMT 2 times before the rest of the crowds arrive? Fine, you'll pay for it.

People can flame me then, too, because this is *exactly* my thoughts as well. I partially blame Disney for this though since they opened the rides for those people but you should not take it for granted that any of these ADRs come with free access to rides before opening. Nowhere does it state officially "if you dine at BOG before park opening, you get to ride X before everyone else does". I think that was never the intention with these early ADRs. I always saw that as a way to actually get a nice breakfast that doesn't actually cut into your park hours. Disney has created a monster by opening certain rides earlier - and of course if they do this, then people will take advantage of it. And people will find a way to work the system to their advantage.
 
Well, when I looked yesterday on WDW dining I saw the EMH Fantasyland Breakfast placeholder. This morning, I can't find it. As promised a few (hundred?) posts back, I went and did a few reps with hand weights (first time in a looong time) in honor of the "mysteriously disappearing" information and of course the Morning Hootenanny*!


Disclaimer: Morning Hootenanny, phrase courtesy of TheFloatingBear. Shenanigans caused by the Morning Hootenanny are not necessarily reflections of the DIS, DISers, or people with generally adequate amounts of sleep. :cloud9:
 
So the early morning thing - is that just access to the park? I guess that will nullify my pre park ADR. If they designate the 5th of May there it goes. They already have the late night thing for the 5th. Disney is really starting to turn me off. $$$$$$$ not Magic.

If they designate either of my 8:00AM CP days I will just cancel CP. For me the whole point of that silly breakfast is to be ready to storm rope drop rope drop. If I'm sharing that "privilege" with a couple thousand more people than originally expected, the ROI goes way down.
 
People can flame me then, too, because this is *exactly* my thoughts as well. I partially blame Disney for this though since they opened the rides for those people but you should not take it for granted that any of these ADRs come with free access to rides before opening. Nowhere does it state officially "if you dine at BOG before park opening, you get to ride X before everyone else does". I think that was never the intention with these early ADRs. I always saw that as a way to actually get a nice breakfast that doesn't actually cut into your park hours. Disney has created a monster by opening certain rides earlier - and of course if they do this, then people will take advantage of it. And people will find a way to work the system to their advantage.

I totally agree. Like others have said some of us (probably most) are booking prepark reservations to eat before the park opens, and to maybe get in while it's still quiet and walk leisurely to the restaurant, maybe taking some pics along the way.
 
In addition to what @yulilin3 posted yesterday, I just found this posted on the Dibb (posted by SMAX - source unknown but SMAX's info generally seems to be reliable). At $69 for adults, I think I'm out, but I am glad to see a slightly reduced child price for this one.

Disney Early Morning Magic - Fantasyland

Fantasyland Fun Before the Park Opens
Make your Walt Disney World mornings more magical than ever with a first-access experience in the park!

Rising with the sun on select mornings, Disney Early Morning Magic gives you the chance to be among the first to enter Magic Kingdom park and experience a trio of Fantasyland attractions: The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh, Seven Dwarfs Mine Train and Peter Pan’s Flight.

Plus, in addition to the early-morning fun, you can get your fill of a fantastic continental breakfast at Pinocchio Village Haus—featuring such scrumptious breakfast fare as:
  • Chilled juices, coffee and teas
  • Seasonal fruit and berries
  • Freshly baked pastries
  • Cheese and cured meats
  • Scrambled eggs with assorted toppings
  • Vegetable frittata
  • Smoked bacon
  • Pork and turkey sausages
  • Fried potatoes with caramelized onions
  • Mickey Waffles
Available with the purchase of a separate ticket, Disney Early Morning Magic takes place on select dates from 7:45 AM to 10:00 AM. However, admission is limited—be sure to buy your tickets before it’s too late!

Purchase Tickets Online or Buy Phone
Don’t miss this all-new special event at Magic Kingdom park. Purchase your tickets today! Admission to Disney Early Morning Magic is available $69 per adult and $49 per child (tax not included).

For tickets, please make your purchase online or call the Disney Reservation Center at (407) 934-7639 for assistance. Guests under 18 years of age must have parent or guardian permission to call.

Know Before You Go
Learn all you need to know about this special event—including where to check-in and when you can enter the park.
  • Official check-in will take place near the far left turnstiles of the Main Entrance to Magic Kingdom park beginning at 7:30 AM. Ticketed Guests will receive an event sticker for identification.
  • Starting at 7:45 AM, Guests will be admitted into the park and guided into Fantasyland.
  • The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh, Seven Dwarfs Mine Train and Peter Pan’s Flight are the only attractions that will be operational during this special event.
  • Beginning at 8:30 AM, breakfast will be available at Pinocchio Village Haus.
  • At 9:00 AM, the theme park will open to Guests with standard theme park admission tickets and exclusive attraction access will end.
  • Breakfast will conclude at 10:00 AM.
  • Please note that standard theme park admission tickets are required for this event, in addition to a Disney Early Morning Admission ticket.
  • The number of tickets available is limited. In addition, all tickets are non-refundable, non-transferrable and are only valid for admission during the special event date and hours.
  • All attractions, entertainment and experiences are subject to change without notice.
This doesn't upset me as much as the evening event. I think because you still need to be a ticket holder. And if you figure there's breakfast in the price it is more reasonable. Still not reasonable but more reasonable. If they're going to open Peter Pan & serve breakfast at PVH, I think they should open Small World too. I know it's not as popular as the other three but it just seems logical since PVH is in the building and looks over the ride.
 

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