Rumor: Fast Pass Restrictions?

[Hoopfamily]

It's about time. The FP window gives you a wide enough Berth to be able to get back. We always stick to the window time. More than likely letting people use them outside of the window jacks up the whole system throwing of return times for others.

 

[Cyrano]

Disneyland Paris have always been very rigid about the operation of FP where guests had to arrive within their window.

For WDW holidays though we have got very used to the flexibility of FP. It is great to pick up a FP for a ride and when you are back in the parks for fireworks/evening parades later to have the bonus of knowing you can get on your favourite ride, without having to wait a long time.

The biggest concern I have about this rumour is the suggestion that this is related to the nexgen updates. The ability of those guests paying for deluxe stays will be able to pre-book their FP times.
So in order that the "premium" guests times are not corrupted by the great unwashed the FP times will be more rigidly enforced.

IMHO this changes the whole flavour of Disney being a park for all families.
In recent times many of the changes e.g. increase in stroller rentals are making an already expensive holiday beyond the reach of many families.

As has been stated many times on the Podcast, Disney will continue to push the income generation for the benefit of the shareholders until such time as the guests say no more

I foresee the poor CMs at City Hall being given a hard time if the FP rumour is true.
So my plea is don't take it out on the CMs. Tell them clearly that you want them to give your message to management.

 

[mjaclyn]

I hope this isn't true. I haven't seen any problems with fastpass line backup because too many people were coming late. I can understand not allowing guests to enter early, but it's going to be really difficult to go to an attraction during that one hour period if you have dining reservations, or if something comes up with your kids (which a lot of the time for us it does) and we just don't get there in time.

 

[emilymad]

The biggest concern I have about this rumour is the suggestion that this is related to the nexgen updates. The ability of those guests paying for deluxe stays will be able to pre-book their FP times.
So in order that the "premium" guests times are not corrupted by the great unwashed the FP times will be more rigidly enforced.

IMHO this changes the whole flavour of Disney being a park for all families.
In recent times many of the changes e.g. increase in stroller rentals are making an already expensive holiday beyond the reach of many families.

As has been stated many times on the Podcast, Disney will continue to push the income generation for the benefit of the shareholders until such time as the guests say no more

I think this is exactly why they are making this change. Disney made a big investment in the nexgen thing and need it to work.

If this now allows fastpass to not sell out early in the day than it could be a good thing. I guess we won't know until we see it in action.

 

[kermit116]

I think the same might be true once this new FP system rolls out. How great would it be to arrive at DHS past noon and find you can get a FP for TSM to use before dinnertime?

I agree! I find it frustrating that so many of the newer attractions "sell out" of Fps first thing in the morning. I understand you can plan to get to the park first thing in the AM and grab FPs. But, this presents a problem if you are only in WDW for a couple of days, and for example, you have decided DHS is a half day park and you'll be going there for an afternoon/evening.

 

[ADP]

Just my 2 cents, but I wonder if this policy will be similar to when Disney said they were going to start enforcing the 7:00PM hard-ticketed party entrance time. It had always been 4:00PM and when Disney made the statement about the 7:00PM time a lot of people went nuts (me included)only to find later that it wasn't enforced. Disney just wanted to make sure guests knew it should be 7:00PM, but since they let you in at 4:00PM they were giving you a dose of pixie dust.

This could be the same situation where they are stating a policy and just kind of reminding us what should be enforced, but still allowing guests to use their Fastpass throughout the day. I guess only time will tell.

 

[sayhello]

The biggest concern I have about this rumour is the suggestion that this is related to the nexgen updates. The ability of those guests paying for deluxe stays will be able to pre-book their FP times.
So in order that the "premium" guests times are not corrupted by the great unwashed the FP times will be more rigidly enforced.

IMHO this changes the whole flavour of Disney being a park for all families.
In recent times many of the changes e.g. increase in stroller rentals are making an already expensive holiday beyond the reach of many families.

As has been stated many times on the Podcast, Disney will continue to push the income generation for the benefit of the shareholders until such time as the guests say no more

I foresee the poor CMs at City Hall being given a hard time if the FP rumour is true.
So my plea is don't take it out on the CMs. Tell them clearly that you want them to give your message to management.

This is exactly what I was thinking as I read this thread. If "premium guests" are getting Fastpasses for 4pm, and all those folks who got FPs at 8am are now using them at 4pm, it's going to make that "premium" guest's experience not quite so premium. The idea of FP is to spread out when people go on the rides, but if you can go at any time after your FP window, rather than within that window, it kind of mucks up the process.

Personally, I'm torn about it. It's nice to have a FP, and know that I can use it to get on the ride later on in the day, regardless of when the window is. But it's REALLY frustrating to Park Hop, and find that by the time you get to the second park, all the FP are gone, and you are stuck for the rest of the day.

But I do agree it's the CMs who are going to get the brunt of the crap for this. And that's really sad. I hope they plan to put up SERIOUS signage about this change, as well as having the CMs explain it to folks.

Sayhello

 

[monkeyknuckler]

I agree with pxlbarrel. How difficult is it to follow the instructions on the FastPass that tell you to come back within a certain timeframe? You know what the time to come back will be because its posted on the clock above the FastPass ticket machines.
I would like the FP ticket policy to go a little further: Anyone who stands infront of the FastPass entry, blocking the entry way while holding a ticket with 5 minutes before the start time, to give the CM the authority to hit them on the head with a shovel to clear the way.
I would then stand in front of Toy Story Mania, videotape it, set the background music to Yakety Sax and slap it up on Youtube.

 

[disney david]

I agree with pxlbarrel. How difficult is it to follow the instructions on the FastPass that tell you to come back within a certain timeframe? You know what the time to come back will be because its posted on the clock above the FastPass ticket machines.
I would like the FP ticket policy to go a little further: Anyone who stands infront of the FastPass entry, blocking the entry way while holding a ticket with 5 minutes before the start time, to give the CM the authority to hit them on the head with a shovel to clear the way.
I would then stand in front of Toy Story Mania, videotape it, set the background music to Yakety Sax and slap it up on Youtube.

With the new policy those guest would be allowed through to clear the clutter that forms at the entrance. Now you will have guest coming ten min before hand and trying to get on. Disney makes rules and policy's and guest focus on bending them and finding loop holes instead of just following them.

 

[DrummerBoy523]

People can sugar coat this all they want but to me it just proves how greedy Disney is becoming. Sure, if you pay more, you can ride anytime you like! Greedy *******s.

 

[Metro West]

Speaking as a local and someone who only bothers with FP when family/friends visit, there are two options Disney should consider. Get rid of return times completely and let people come back whenever they want...Universal's Express works that way. Or...just get rid of FP completely and go back to the old days before anyone knew what a FP was. I also think making ADRs six months in advance is ridiculous but that's another thread.

 

[WaltD4Me]

I agree with pxlbarrel. How difficult is it to follow the instructions on the FastPass that tell you to come back within a certain timeframe? You know what the time to come back will be because its posted on the clock above the FastPass ticket machines.

The thing with FP's is that you have no control over what time you get. I do not go commando when I go to the parks, but I do have a general plan, especially in show heavy parks like AK and DHS and we usually have one ADR per day. So now I get an FP for the same time as my ADR or at the same time as FOTLK and it throws my plan for the day all out of whack. Who wants to get out of FOTLK and run over to EE? Or be at the far end of World Showcase and have to go all the way back to Future World for a Soarin or TT FP?

 

[disney david]

People can sugar coat this all they want but to me it just proves how greedy Disney is becoming. Sure, if you pay more, you can ride anytime you like! Greedy *******s.

fast passes are included with park admission they don't sell fast passes to anyone. i never saw anywhere saying that if you stay in deluxe you get to do fast passes from home they are letting everyone do it from home when they roll it out.

 

[kerrym417]

Why do people get so angry about following the rules?

 

[WaltD4Me]

Why do people get so angry about following the rules?

Because I go on vacation to get away from most rules and because Disney itself basically made it a "non-rule" themselves. Anytime I ever asked a CM about an FP return time the reply was not to worry, you can come back anytime after the return window.

 

[k5jm]

Why do people get so angry about following the rules?

I would not call this, "getting angry about following the rules." I would call it, "confusion about rumor." There are a bunch or questions about "why," which we can speculate about all day long, but until we see a memo or a press release, this is still speculation.

 

[monkeyknuckler]

With the new policy those guest would be allowed through to clear the clutter that forms at the entrance. Now you will have guest coming ten min before hand and trying to get on. Disney makes rules and policy's and guest focus on bending them and finding loop holes instead of just following them.

Fine then. I will adjust my Shovel to the Head Policy to the 10 minute mark.

 

[templed]

Well... my hope is that this curtails some of the problems we ran into the last time we visited. When we were there... Brazilian tour groups had effectively monopolized the ENTIRE Fastpass system. The tour guides would collect everyone's tickets from their group and go from FP to FP collecting Fastpasses for the group.

Hundreds at a time. It would make it impossible for the regular Joe to get a Fastpass for the popular rides.

 

[WaltD4Me]

With the new policy those guest would be allowed through to clear the clutter that forms at the entrance. Now you will have guest coming ten min before hand and trying to get on. Disney makes rules and policy's and guest focus on bending them and finding loop holes instead of just following them.

Well, maybe Disney should take a few minutes to find out why their guests are finding a need to bend them or find loopholes. Disney creates these situations and then they just seem to say "We don't feel like finding a good solution, so we are going to make this rule."

 

[disney david]

Fine then. I will adjust my Shovel to the Head Policy to the 10 minute mark.

i am sure it wont last long before disney revises this policy to something else.