rude people

[kailuagirl]

We were at DLR a couple weeks ago and we have never experienced such rude people in all our years of going there. It was just crazy sad.

Here's one situation and still trying to figure out how should I have handled this? We were waiting to see WOC. We waited and got in right when they opened up the area and got a great place right next to the railing. These 2 japanese girls (my husband is japanese so not profiling or anything here) came to where we were waiting and literally smashed up against us, spread their bags out and sat down. Mind you, it was not crowded and there was no one between us on the front railing and those against the back railing. Lots and lots of space. Whatever, DH just looks at me and shakes his head. He now was stuck and could not even turn or move his feet without stepping on them. We still had about 45 or so minutes to wait. Whatever, we are patient and just excited to be there as dd8 really wanted to see the anniversary show. So the show starts and one of the girls sticks out her arm with her camera right directly in my face, not even a foot away, inches and I could not see the show at all. All I saw was her arm going up and then her phone. I pretty much had to watch it through her phone. I could not see a thing with the angle we were at. It was crazy. She looked at me and saw that I couldn't see and didn't do anything at all, she just left her phone there. It was no where near in front of her, just pushed out in front of me. The show is just about over and I'm finally really mad and told DH loudly I think I'm going to accidentally bump into her so she drops her phone. It would have went into the water. She looks at me, moves it for a second then puts it back. She didn't care at all. I was stuck, couldn't move as I was in the triangle between her and her friend and the railing. I said several times loudly that I couldn't see as her phone was blocking my view and she did nothing. So frustrating.

People were just rude, I could go on and on with the stories. One lady literally walked right into me hard and I thought she was going to punch me and it was her fault. This was the week leading up to Gay Days. At last, the red shirts arrived and people were super happy, nice, friendly, polite, etc. We were so relieved that the crowd changed. Thank you Gay Days!

 

[theluckyrabbit]

I would chalk up the lack of personal space issue to cultural differences, perhaps? Japan is a pretty densely crowded country, so maybe the girls just weren't as sensitive to the issue as most Americans are. That said, I would have spoken up kindly and firmly right away to ask them to move over a bit, especially since you said your viewing area wasn't crowded. As far as the camera issue goes, again, I would have asked her kindly and firmly right away (usng gestures if necessary) to move her camera because you couldn't see. If that didn't work, I would have flagged down a CM to deal with her. We've experienced some pretty odd behaviors from fellow WOC guests (like the guy who was using his little girl as a weapon, swinging her legs hard back and forth to clear his path so he could be first in front -- hard enough that her shoe bruised my arm and then went flying off into the bushes!), but CMs have usually been good about either dealing with it or helping us move to a better spot. (We've also met some really fun people while waiting, so not everyone is a bad apple.) Unfortunately, the rude, selfish people like the woman who ran into you are all over, not just at Disney. We try to ignore them the best we can and not let them ruin the magic.

 

[Love Tink]

Here's one situation and still trying to figure out how should I have handled this?

I see threads like this all the time and they make no sense to me. You could have asked them to move over and not sit so close. You could have asked her not to put her camera in your face.

 

[mom2rtk]

I had someone stick a video camera (complete with video lighting) over my shoulder literally 2 inches from my ear. I asked them several times to move it back and they did not. I finally just stuck my hand in front of it and they got the message and backed off.

 

[Dentam]

It could be a cultural difference as a previous poster mentioned. But yeah, I would have said something as soon as they squished up against me and if that didn't work I would have found a CM or just moved a few feet away from them on the railing if that was possible.

 

[5forMickey]

girls sticks out her arm with her camera right directly in my face, not even a foot away, inches and I could not see the show at all

I swear this exact thing happen to me last December when we did BB Fantasmic! dining. It was an Oriental Man and he actually was using a selfie stick. I kept thinking the CM's would make him lower it. I was so glad when I heard that you couldn't bring the sticks on site anymore.

My DH (as the PP) tried to remind me that it was probably more because of the culture than that they are trying to be rude. And while I agree with him, it was sure frustrating.

**mom2trk* that is funny stuff -- I'm doing that if I ever have need to again

 

[Indiana Scott]

I would have stepped on their junk and asked them to turn off the phone by politely explaining that it's rude to do such a thing.

 

[Tyggress]

I would have put my hand in front of her camera, since she put her camera in front of my face!

 

[AcuraTL]

I swear this exact thing happen to me last December when we did BB Fantasmic! dining. It was an Oriental Man and he actually was using a selfie stick. I kept thinking the CM's would make him lower it. I was so glad when I heard that you couldn't bring the sticks on site anymore.

My DH (as the PP) tried to remind me that it was probably more because of the culture than that they are trying to be rude. And while I agree with him, it was sure frustrating.

**mom2trk* that is funny stuff -- I'm doing that if I ever have need to again

Maybe he did it on purpose because you called him an Oriental man?

 

[5forMickey]

Maybe he did it on purpose because you called him an Oriental man?

Actually I didn't call him anything he just pushed his way in front of everyone and ruined their view as is typical from his culture. I was only using that label on here for descriptive purposes, to try and explain/excuse why many people from that particular culture have a habit of exhibiting rude behavior. I could have called him a much more descriptive name but thought that to be the kindest term for these boards.

And just so you don't really over react, I had family (4 members to be exact) with us that are from Indonesia so it's wasn't meant as an insult it was meant to identify his culture and thereby traits exhibited from him that seem to be common with most people from that area of the World......geeze

 

[Mysteryincorp]

I don't understand why you didn't say something?

 

[grnflash]

Actually I didn't call him anything he just pushed his way in front of everyone and ruined their view as is typical from his culture. I was only using that label on here for descriptive purposes, to try and explain/excuse why many people from that particular culture have a habit of exhibiting rude behavior. I could have called him a much more descriptive name but thought that to be the kindest term for these boards.

And just so you don't really over react, I had family (4 members to be exact) with us that are from Indonesia so it's wasn't meant as an insult it was meant to identify his culture and thereby traits exhibit from him that seem to be common with most people from that area of the World......geeze

I believe the PP was pointing out that "oriental" is not properly (or politely) used to refer to people. Oriental vase, check. Oriental man, no. Go with "Asian" if demographic/ethnic designation is truly neccessary.

 

[AcuraTL]

Actually I didn't call him anything he just pushed his way in front of everyone and ruined their view as is typical from his culture. I was only using that label on here for descriptive purposes, to try and explain/excuse why many people from that particular culture have a habit of exhibiting rude behavior. I could have called him a much more descriptive name but thought that to be the kindest term for these boards.

And just so you don't really over react, I had family (4 members to be exact) with us that are from Indonesia so it's wasn't meant as an insult it was meant to identify his culture and thereby traits exhibit from him that seem to be common with most people from that area of the World......geeze

Just so you know, the term "Oriental" is considered offensive when you label the type of race. And for you to say "identify his culture and thereby traits exhibit from him that seem to be common with most people from that area of the World" is very prejudice of you.

 

[GatorChris]

Amazing. A post about rude people...and DISers start being rude to others and throw the race card around. Let's not become like the WDW side of DISboards. We're DL fans. We're a lot more relaxed over here.

 

[StormyCA]

I think the point needs to be that we need to politely speak up. We're all pretty much raised to 'not make a fuss' so we sit and fume in silence. There's nothing wrong with saying "Please move your things, I'm afraid I may step on them" or "You are blocking my view, please move your camera". In this case I probably would have simply touched her arm or camera and said "Please stop blocking my view". If that didn't work I would have blocked her camera view and said sternly "NO!".

 

[jammyjam25]

I feel you, I had a lady SIT on me during the Paint the Night parade when I was there the last week of September. We were on the curb in front of the Penny Arcade and there was maybe six inches of space between myself and the person next to me. A lady appeared out of nowhere from behind us right as the parade started (she had not been there the entire time leading up to the parade) asking if her granddaughter could sit there. I was annoyed but scooted over as much as I could towards my friend to make room for the girl, and then suddenly grandma sat in the tiny space AND halfway on top of me and pulled the granddaughter into her lap. What are you supposed to do at that point? I'm not going to scream and yell at an old lady but really????

 

[Indiana Scott]

I feel you, I had a lady SIT on me during the Paint the Night parade when I was there the last week of September. We were on the curb in front of the Penny Arcade and there was maybe six inches of space between myself and the person next to me. A lady appeared out of nowhere from behind us right as the parade started (she had not been there the entire time leading up to the parade) asking if her granddaughter could sit there. I was annoyed but scooted over as much as I could towards my friend to make room for the girl, and then suddenly grandma sat in the tiny space AND halfway on top of me and pulled the granddaughter into her lap. What are you supposed to do at that point? I'm not going to scream and yell at an old lady but really????

If possible, I would have placed my knee in such a position that it would have effected the way she walked for the rest of the night and perhaps the week.

 

[bumbershoot]

I would chalk up the lack of personal space issue to cultural differences, perhaps? Japan is a pretty densely crowded country, so maybe the girls just weren't as sensitive to the issue as most Americans are. That said, I would have spoken up kindly and firmly right away to ask them to move over a bit, especially since you said your viewing area wasn't crowded.

Yes and yes.

DH has described his visits to Korea, and they don't make me want to go. Getting into or out of an elevator, everyone stands right at the door and pushes through either way. There is no "let people out then get in" or opposite, it's just a scrum on both sides. And no one gets stressed about it, it just is how it is.

So...unless you're at Disneyland Tokyo, since they are (I assume) visiting, we can help them out with US culture and ask them not to do such things.

It was an Oriental Man and he actually was using a selfie stick.

Asian.

My MIL hasn't gotten the message and still calls herself Oriental, but those of us who are not of that descent (and I assume you aren't because you didn't say so) really should not do that.

 

[Mividadisney]

I would have asked her to move and if she didn't I would have made sure she had no footage of the show either

 

[5forMickey]

My MIL hasn't gotten the message and still calls herself Oriental, but those of us who are not of that descent (and I assume you aren't because you didn't say so) really should not do that

Lol.

And thank you bumbershoot for the kind correction. My apologies if my wording was taken personal. The funny thing is it wasn't meant to be an insult I was actually trying to justify/defend the different behavior because I really don't think most "Asians" mean to be rude and pushy..... but point taken.