ROFR Thread Oct to Dec 2025 *PLEASE SEE FIRST POST FOR INSTRUCTIONS & FORMATTING TOOL*

[gvel]

Who pays the $500 will likely vary depending on how desperate either the buyer or the seller are.

I think it will be paid by the buyer on most occasions, but the price per point will likely reflect some sort of adjustment to compensate for this extra fee.

 

[AstroBlasters]

All the more reason VGC are more attractive.

It also costs a lot more.

 

[gvel]

It also costs a lot more.

But no resale restrictions and will hold it's value a lot better.

 

[atthebeachclub]

But no resale restrictions and will hold it's value a lot better.

Based on buy in cost, if I wanted to own at VGC and thought I’d ever sell…I would probably just rent from Disney. VGC (in my opinion) is strictly a buy and hold, never use elsewhere, til death do us part contract. It may as well have resale restrictions because using those points elsewhere is painful!

 

[AstroBlasters]

But no resale restrictions and will hold its value a lot better.

I understand, I own both.

There are SO many factors when considering these resorts and the TOT is only part of it.

1) VGC resale is restricted from staying VDH inventory
2) VGC direct and resale are about $100pp more than corresponding VDH.
3) VGC point chart is worse for 1 bd’s most of the year.
4) VGC studio inventory is extremely difficult.
5) VDH resale is restricted from everything but VDH.
6) VDH has a low % in villas of inventory.
7) VDH has TOT.
Etc.

I actually think the thing to compare is VGC resale to VDH direct. VGC resale is likely still $50pp or more. VDH direct can be used at both resorts.

 

[Chili327]

A $500 transfer fee sure won’t ever be paid by this buyer lol. Soon sellers will pay us just to take it off their hands.

Congrats on all the “passes”…resale is the way.

Who pays the $500 will likely vary depending on how desperate either the buyer or the seller are.

I’m guessing it will be paid by the buyers more often on most resorts, but paid for by the sellers on the low value 2042, and restricted resorts.
But eitherway reflected in the price paid per point.

Based on buy in cost, if I wanted to own at VGC and thought I’d ever sell…I would probably just rent from Disney. VGC (in my opinion) is strictly a buy and hold, never use elsewhere, til death do us part contract. It may as well have resale restrictions because using those points elsewhere is painful!

Never really looked at it that way, but it is true I don’t plan to sell or use VGC points elsewhere, so resale VDH may not be terrible if the price is right.

 

[MagicalExpress9]

MagicalExpress9---$161-$17801-100-PVB-Dec-0/24, 0/25, 100/26- sent 12/8

 

[BruinEd03]

BruinEd03---$117-$26816-220-AUL-Mar-0/24, 0/25, 229/26, 220/27-Subsidized- sent 11/18

BruinEd03---$117-$26816-220-AUL-Mar-0/24, 0/25, 229/26, 220/27-Subsidized- sent 11/18, Passed 12/2

 

[Chili327]

BruinEd03---$117-$26816-220-AUL-Mar-0/24, 0/25, 229/26, 220/27-Subsidized- sent 11/18, Passed 12/2

You want to redo the whole thing (like so), so it gets picked up. Nice contract!!

 

[BruinEd03]

You want to redo the whole thing (like so), so it gets picked up. Nice contract!!

Thanks for the heads up on redoing the whole string!

 

[TheDailyMoo]

The wording on this email from the sponsor sure seems like it's setting up for the buyer to take on the cost.

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If you sign your resale contract on or before December 31, 2025, you will not be charged the new $500 fee.

This makes the next few weeks an excellent opportunity if you are:

Thinking about becoming a Member

Adding points to your Membership

Watching a specific listing you love​

Acting now allows you to secure today’s pricing and avoid additional buyer costs.​

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[BruinEd03]

The wording on this email from the sponsor sure seems like it's setting up for the buyer to take on the cost.

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If you sign your resale contract on or before December 31, 2025, you will not be charged the new $500 fee.

This makes the next few weeks an excellent opportunity if you are:

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Adding points to your Membership

Watching a specific listing you love​

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Acting now allows you to secure today’s pricing and avoid additional buyer costs.​

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They are setting it up as their default position. However, like anything in the contract, it's up for negotiation. One example, some sellers will want you to pay the dues for current or banked points. However, you may be able to negotiate that out. Some sellers insist on buyers paying closing cost. Other times, they may be willing to cover that.

A reasonable position might be that the cost is split. Or, the cost may be borne by the buyer, but there's a lower $ per point cost.

Realistically buyers will have to take the overall cost of the contract into account ($ per point, annual dues, closing costs, any middleman fees, etc.) and decide overall if the contract is still worth it. This will impact smaller contracts to a much greater degree than mid size to larger or more expensive contracts.

 

[TheDailyMoo]

They are setting it up as their default position. However, like anything in the contract, it's up for negotiation. One example, some sellers will want you to pay the dues for current or banked points. However, you may be able to negotiate that out. Some sellers insist on buyers paying closing cost. Other times, they may be willing to cover that.

A reasonable position might be that the cost is split. Or, the cost may be borne by the buyer, but there's a lower $ per point cost.

Realistically buyers will have to take the overall cost of the contract into account ($ per point, annual dues, closing costs, any middleman fees, etc.) and decide overall if the contract is still worth it. This will impact smaller contracts to a much greater degree than mid size to larger or more expensive contracts.

It's kind of funny because Disney just "Fidelitied" all the resale brokers. Even though their $225 fee is still there now all the other brokers will have a fee that can and will probably be negotiated more often than not. Though I do agree the default will go to buyer.

Me making an offer on a Fidelity contract starting January 1st:
Yeah I'd like to make an offer on that contract listed at $140...I'll offer them $110 AND they pay closing AND they pay Fidelity fee AND they pay Disney's fee AND they pay the dues on the banked points AND...

hello?...hello?

 

[VGCgroupie]

It's kind of funny because Disney just "Fidelitied" all the resale brokers. Even though their $225 fee is still there now all the other brokers will have a fee that can and will probably be negotiated more often than not. Though I do agree the default will go to buyer.

Me making an offer on a Fidelity contract starting January 1st:
Yeah I'd like to make an offer on that contract listed at $140...I'll offer them $110 AND they pay closing AND they pay Fidelity fee AND they pay Disney's fee AND they pay the dues on the banked points AND...

hello?...hello?

Yeah buying with Fidelity is now $725 right off the bat. Not amazing for buying small contracts. Although everything is negotiable, but I found that sellers were less willing to negotiate on Fidelitys fee than closing costs and dues for some reason.

 

[TheDailyMoo]

Yeah buying with Fidelity is now $725 right off the bat. Not amazing for buying small contracts. Although everything is negotiable, but I found that sellers were less willing to negotiate on Fidelitys fee than closing costs and dues for some reason.

That's an interesting insight. I know I paid it the three contracts I purchased through them. Definitely going to hurt the pricing on those small contracts, especially the near dated expiry ones. This fee could be the stake in the heart that finally drives VB contracts towards zero.

 

[BruinEd03]

Yeah buying with Fidelity is now $725 right off the bat. Not amazing for buying small contracts. Although everything is negotiable, but I found that sellers were less willing to negotiate on Fidelitys fee than closing costs and dues for some reason.

I've had sellers offering to pay closing costs and admin fees. That was part of my opening offer. They just countered with a higher point price. Realistically it didn't matter to me - I would've looked at total cost.

 

[Hubalorian]

That's an interesting insight. I know I paid it the three contracts I purchased through them. Definitely going to hurt the pricing on those small contracts, especially the near dated expiry ones. This fee could be the stake in the heart that finally drives VB contracts towards zero.

I’ve gotten them to waive the fee for one contract when I bought my two AK contracts awhile back. So if you do go through them, don’t be afraid to ask for them to waive the $225 fee if you are buying more than one contract at a time.

 

[airjay75]

One note on Fidelity. I believe their broker commission is quite a bit lower than the 9.5% charged by the site sponsor. I sort of view their "administrative fee" as a way of shifting some of the commission on to the buyer. I tried to negotiate it on one contract I bought through them (unsuccessfully) and didn't bother on the second one, although my offer was very low and I didn't expect it to be accepted (but it was).

 

[Amanda Oszczakiewicz]

Amanda Oszczakiewicz---$90.91-$23094-220-SSR-Mar-0/24, 0/25, 440/26, 220/27- sent 12/1, passed 12/9

 

[pzw90]

One note on Fidelity. I believe their broker commission is quite a bit lower than the 9.5% charged by the site sponsor. I sort of view their "administrative fee" as a way of shifting some of the commission on to the buyer. I tried to negotiate it on one contract I bought through them (unsuccessfully) and didn't bother on the second one, although my offer was very low and I didn't expect it to be accepted (but it was).

Also, they sell many more timeshares than DVC, many for a fraction of the price of DVC. The fee is to help offset the negligible commission on those.