ROFR Thread July to Sept 2022 *PLEASE SEE FIRST POST FOR INSTRUCTIONS & FORMATTING TOOL*

[Sunnyore]

Argh looks like all the longer wait times contracts have indeed been taken. I’m at day 45 so it doesn’t look good for me. I feel like there’s quite a bit less out there to bid on right now too. I might have to be brave and venture to multiple uys…

 

[JCHDisney]

Perusing the latest auction from one of the voldemort brokers (must not be named). Only one of their listings has a reserve price that's met (an AKL at $145/point--which doesn't include the $250 they charge the winning bidder). Was looking at the history of the bids and the person outbid themselves from $140 to $145/pt lol. Those gotta be some drunk bids or something because they were done within 2 minutes of each other at 2am!

Guilty

Not 2am for us though...we are in the UK haha! We wanted to meet reserve so we knew it would be accepted by seller & then really just wanted to increase our chances to pass rofr so know we haven’t got the best deal. Tried once with a good deal & the rofr sniped it

 

[NVDISFamily]

CCV seems to be on the chopping block a lot lately.

Sucks, but a good thing for my sanity and my dues budget. I have this dream of going in for a ninja purchase of a stripped CCV contract at 140 a point....... But I can wait a few more months.

Team - if I don't need the points soon. It's better to buy a stripped contract in Q1 (assuming I get little points and/or ask the buyer to pay the dues)? Waiting until Q1 will be negotiating the dues for 2023 right?

 

[JCHDisney]

JCHDisney---$145-$14500-110-AKV-Feb-68/21, 95/22, 110/23, 110/24- $250 auction fee. 8/26

Here we go again! Wasn’t really trying to get a deal this time just want to get past ROFR & really want AKV! Works out about $147 a point if you take into account auction fee!

 

[TinkB278]

Is Disney rofring most AKV contracts still? I found one I’m very interested in but if the timing isn’t great. I was planning on adding on more direct RIV points before end of September so I could get the extra 2021 points but having a contract awaiting riff might mess this up for me. I could miss out on the AKV contract and would also miss out on the bonus points if I heard back and bought direct after 10/1.

 

[discreet]

ROFR passed my AKV $140/point a few days ago. While browsing this thread I noticed ROFR grabbed at leat 3 other AKV contracts in the same batch. They were all slightly lower than 140. I don't know if $140 is Disney's line in the sand for AKV or if I was just lucky.

 

[TinkB278]

ROFR passed my AKV $140/point a few days ago. While browsing this thread I noticed ROFR grabbed at leat 3 other AKV contracts in the same batch. They were all slightly lower than 140. I don't know if $140 is Disney's line in the sand for AKV or if I was just lucky.

I was really hoping to pay around $130 for AKV so maybe just adding on some direct at riviera is the way to go. Doesn’t sound like $130 would stand much of a chance.

 

[Nursemanit]

Sucks, but a good thing for my sanity and my dues budget. I have this dream of going in for a ninja purchase of a stripped CCV contract at 140 a point....... But I can wait a few more months.

Team - if I don't need the points soon. It's better to buy a stripped contract in Q1 (assuming I get little points and/or ask the buyer to pay the dues)? Waiting until Q1 will be negotiating the dues for 2023 right?

I will only do stripped contracts in the future - my PVB contract is fully stripped and it is stress free - when it shows up it shows up. I don't get points on it until Oct 2023 anyway. But getting a seller to.come down the value of the stripped points is hard.

 

[The_MT]

Sucks, but a good thing for my sanity and my dues budget. I have this dream of going in for a ninja purchase of a stripped CCV contract at 140 a point....... But I can wait a few more months.

Team - if I don't need the points soon. It's better to buy a stripped contract in Q1 (assuming I get little points and/or ask the buyer to pay the dues)? Waiting until Q1 will be negotiating the dues for 2023 right?

You could make an offer on a contract before Q1 and negotiate the 2023 dues, especially if the contract is stripped. Seller could give you a credit for the dues and then you use that to pay the dues in January. That’s what I did a couple months ago on an AKV contract that had only 57 out of 100 of the 2023 points.

 

[Ginamarie]

Sucks, but a good thing for my sanity and my dues budget. I have this dream of going in for a ninja purchase of a stripped CCV contract at 140 a point....... But I can wait a few more months.

Team - if I don't need the points soon. It's better to buy a stripped contract in Q1 (assuming I get little points and/or ask the buyer to pay the dues)? Waiting until Q1 will be negotiating the dues for 2023 right?

I think some of the best deals come about from November to January because people want to unload the contracts before they have to pay any more dues.
You can always negotiate on the dues depending on whether you’re stripped or not and how badly. my resale contracts have always been loaded and I try to get sellers to be responsible for the old dues so it’s basically free points in my pocket.

 

[Jimmy Geppetto]

I think some of the best deals come about from November to January because people want to unload the contracts before they have to pay any more dues.
You can always negotiate on the dues depending on whether you’re stripped or not and how badly. my resale contracts have always been loaded and I try to get sellers to be responsible for the old dues so it’s basically free points in my pocket.

Preach it sister! The best values are always in the loaded contracts.

 

[HIRyeDVC]

Even on vacation, I love reading this thread, all 12 catch-up pages while having coffee and watching DCA wake up. I love this ROFR group!

 

[NVDISFamily]

Even on vacation, I love reading this thread, all 12 catch-up pages while having coffee and watching DCA wake up. I love this ROFR group!

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NICE! But..... please trim those trees Disney

I think we have our first stay in that general area in April.

 

[Brian Noble]

I think there are restrictions for exchanging amongst Orlando timeshares

That is correct. You cannot use an Orlando-area deposit to exchange into an Orlando DVC resort.

But, there are plenty of other reasons for owning a Marriott trader. Marriott has an internal preference period on deposits. For the first several weeks after a unit is deposited, only another Marriott can exchange into it. That means non-Marriott owners are very unlikely to exchange into high-demand weeks (think larger units on Maui and Kauai, summer Hilton Head oceanfront, larger units for spring break in S. Florida oceanfront, etc.)

More broadly: it's usually a mistake to buy a timeshare with one specific exchange target in mind, because the rules are constantly changing. Exchange is better thought of as an opportunistic bonus that helps add some variety and flexibility to an underlying ownership I've had good luck with both RCI and II over the years, but it's definitely been more of a spin-the-wheel thing than "Here is our concrete plan."

 

[quakerlaw]

quakerlaw---$175-$17869-100-BLT-Feb-0/21, 0/22, 186/23-seller pays 50% CC- sent 7/22, taken 8/25

Honestly shocked by this. Thought we would pass for sure.

 

[Huskerpaul]

That is correct. You cannot use an Orlando-area deposit to exchange into an Orlando DVC resort.

But, there are plenty of other reasons for owning a Marriott trader. Marriott has an internal preference period on deposits. For the first several weeks after a unit is deposited, only another Marriott can exchange into it. That means non-Marriott owners are very unlikely to exchange into high-demand weeks (think larger units on Maui and Kauai, summer Hilton Head oceanfront, larger units for spring break in S. Florida oceanfront, etc.)

More broadly: it's usually a mistake to buy a timeshare with one specific exchange target in mind, because the rules are constantly changing. Exchange is better thought of as an opportunistic bonus that helps add some variety and flexibility to an underlying ownership I've had good luck with both RCI and II over the years, but it's definitely been more of a spin-the-wheel thing than "Here is our concrete plan."

Could someone use II ePlus to say first trade a Grande Vista week for a Marriott week in Palm Springs and then use the ePlus to retrade back into Orlando DVC? Or does the underlying Orlando restriction continue to follow the deposited week no matter how many trades it goes through?

 

[DonMacGregor]

Could someone use II ePlus to say fist trade a Grande Vista week for a Marriott week in Palm Springs and then use the ePlus to retrade back into Orlando DVC? Or does the underlying Orlando restriction continue to follow the deposited week no matter how

This is why I never borrow, walk, or waitlist...LOL That would leave me

 

[Brian Noble]

Or does the underlying Orlando restriction continue to follow the deposited week

I don't think anyone has tested this, but I assume it will. For example, if you paid a size upgrade fee on the original exchange, ePlus into a smaller unit, and then back into a larger one, you don't have to pay the fee a second time.

(Plus, this is there because Disney wants it there. If this is a loophole, it won't last long.)

 

[BWoody]

BWoody---$140-$14513-100-AKV-Feb-0/21, 0/22, 69/23, 100/24- sent 8/25

Didn't even bother negotiating this one. Saving a few hundred dollars isn't worth the anxiety of waking the ROFR monster who seems to start stirring below 140. Credit on the used points in 23. My goal was more AKV and don't spend more than 15k. The way I see it is I get 30 more points/year than if I went direct. Nothing is official until it is official, but this would bring me to 225 total. Hello 1 BR

 

[Jlo85]

Jlo85---$129-$16275-120-AKV-Feb-0/21, 0/22, 222/23, 120/24- sent 8/26