ROFR Thread Jan to March 2022 *PLEASE SEE FIRST POST FOR INSTRUCTIONS & FORMATTING TOOL*

[larry47591]

I mean at least you'll only competing against Direct owners?

Possibly but if you buy there it’s to stay there. Not many people are going to use DLT points to stay a Saratoga. It will be more like copper creek, almost impossible to get at less then 11 months

 

[Chia1974]

For me, it’s primarily the ability to book at RIV, DLT and any new resorts - which may include Poly.

I also like the idea of being able to use the points if ever needed for Disney Cruise and Adventures by Disney. I *know* that’s a terrible use of points and presently we do rent points out and pay for them with rental income. But I like having options, especially if renting ever becomes a problem or the market dries up, to know that we have that option.

That said 2/3 of my points are resale, so our direct points won’t go far. But that’s why sometimes I am tempted to flip some contracts to buy direct, and may do that when PVB2 comes along.

Currently wanting to flip a 125 pt BLT and 45 pt BWV for VGF2 or cheap Poly.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I’m not sure I agree with you. Disney has rescheduled BRV’s refurbishment three times. They found the means to refurbish other DVC resorts outside of their scheduled refurb during the time they kept postponing BRV. They said they’d refurb this year; but they’ve scheduled no dates and it’s pretty clear looking at availability that they haven’t blocked out dates for the refurb this year. If they could do the other resorts, they could’ve done BRV. They didn’t. They also refuse to communicate with owners on this (I know; I emailed DVC Member Satisfaction on this in December and again a couple of weeks ago, and get responses telling me they don’t know but they did announce they would be and will let us know when they dk, but haven’t answered any of my questions regarding the delay or why other resorts are receiving refurbs ahead of BRV). It’s been almost 3 years, and we still have no information from Disney on when the refurb is taking place. If they can announce they’re refurbing SSR’s pool in Jan-Mar 2023, they could absolutely announce when they are refurbishing BRV in 2022. The fact that they have not - but they announce other refurb projects and new DVC projects - is telling.

I'm not saying they've handled BRV well or properly, I'm saying it wasn't ever a tradeoff of "do BRV or do VGF2." They're not connected.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

So what are we thinking? best to keep looking for resale or hold off for the next firesale? I didn't really get to see what the BLT deal was, I was just getting my account set up and learning the ropes... I want to add on 75-100 points eventually but I still have enough bankable points from my loaded contract that should hold me over for a year or two until I really NEED the extra...

IMO the direct incentives they offer tend to only be worthwhile if you're adding 300+.

 

[Chia1974]

So what are we thinking? best to keep looking for resale or hold off for the next firesale? I didn't really get to see what the BLT deal was, I was just getting my account set up and learning the ropes... I want to add on 75-100 points eventually but I still have enough bankable points from my loaded contract that should hold me over for a year or two until I really NEED the extra...

Prices are only going up not down. You will probably say to yourself “I should add on a year ago”. However direct incentives are usually starting at least 100 points.

 

[sjdrr1313]

Prices are only going up not down. You will probably say to yourself “I should add on a year ago”. However direct incentives are usually starting at least 100 points.

Yeah I was debating adding on 150 at VGF but I do not need to spend that much again right now. I'm already kicking myself because I should have added on 50 at SSR before March 1 to get the 2021 points (I have a March use year). But I guess I'm also glad the my resale got through at $129 before the prices start going up...

 

[KVacc]

Does anyone know what the special offer is at BLT?

 

[eticketplease]

Prices are only going up not down. You will probably say to yourself “I should add on a year ago”. However direct incentives are usually starting at least 100 points.

Yes I wish this was true for VGF2 but sadly they don't start until 125 and I'm told we do not need that many points right now.

However I see in my future my SO changing course and stating we should have added on as we can always use more points!!

This of course always happens after the better incentives have ended!!

 

[dado4]

Rule #1: Make sure your deed is titled exactly the same way. "Husband and Wife as tenants in the entirety" is legally something different than "Husband and Wife as joint tenants with right of survivorship." If you're a sole owner then this isn't much of a problem.

What happens in this exact scenario? 2 accounts?

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Does anyone know what the special offer is at BLT?

These are expired now, but this is the "fire sale" they ran earlier this year.

 

[RooFeeYoo]

RooFeeYoo---$160-$20975-120-PVB-Apr-0/21, 75/22, 120/23, 120/24- sent 3/2- passed 3/24

Our first contract! We go just about every other year and used to stay off property. But after going with our best friends who own at Poly and CC we were amazed. Never stayed at a Disney property before so this is going to be amazing!

 

[eticketplease]

Does anyone know what the special offer is at BLT?

DVC news had reported about this https://www.dvcnews.com/dvc-program...r-discounts-bay-lake-tower-up-to-48-per-point
However it stated they expired on 3/2/22.

Unfortunately they are only offering as high as $19 a point off for contracts of 1,000 or more with incentives starting at $8 for adding on 150 points.

 

[eticketplease]

RooFeeYoo---$160-$20975-120-PVB-Apr-0/21, 75/22, 120/23, 120/24- sent 3/2- passed 3/24

Our first contract! We go just about every other year and used to stay off property. But after going with our best friends who own at Poly and CC we were amazed. Never stayed at a Disney property before so this is going to be amazing!

Congrats!!

 

[snowy82]

RooFeeYoo---$160-$20975-120-PVB-Apr-0/21, 75/22, 120/23, 120/24- sent 3/2- passed 3/24

Our first contract! We go just about every other year and used to stay off property. But after going with our best friends who own at Poly and CC we were amazed. Never stayed at a Disney property before so this is going to be amazing!

Congrats!! now the fun planning begins!

 

[KVacc]

Is there anything that can give hints on when these fire sales happen for a particular resort?

 

[sjdrr1313]

Congrats!! now the fun planning begins!

Alright I'm gonna message you on how you added that signature and the pic from OKW to your profile. why can't I figure this out??? lol

 

[snowy82]

Alright I'm gonna message you on how you added that signature and the pic from OKW to your profile. why can't I figure this out??? lol

ha- you know where to find me on FB

we haven't even closed yet and i'm already adding signatures!

 

[wilkydelts]

If this does to resale prices what I expect it to do to resale prices, I'm probably going to sell my current contracts and buy 300 direct in the next fire sale.

They got me. They effing got me. Well played, Bill, you crazy sonofabitch.

I am right there with you. I just got my first resale contract 3 months ago and haven't used a point yet. SSR 300 point March UY with 600/22, 300/23, 300/24 etc for $130. At this point I am going use the 22, 23, 24 points as planned. Put it up for sale right after Poly2 comes available at the end for 2024 so I can get the member discount and buy around 350-400 points there. Obviously it will cost me more money to buy Poly 2 but hoping after incentives it is around $195-$200. I will put SSR up for sale at $140 and hope it goes fast and I believe I can come close to breaking even and use those funds to help pay for Poly2.

 

[hhisc16]

It will be interesting to see how resale prices react to the OKW/SSR/AKV direct price increase.

 

[larry47591]

It will be interesting to see how resale prices react to the OKW/SSR/AKV direct price increase.

I would think if you re in the market for resale now will be the time to buy. My guess is rofr goes up to 150 at least on resale especially if they do run incentives soon.