Roethlisberger admits: 'I don't think I got in'

[darrose]

But you didnt notice the other one that didnt blame the refs?
I saw both on that thread. Thanks for being honest.
Also, now I am paranoid that it wasnt that thread that it was on . Just so my tush is covered I will simply state that I have seen articles that havent blamed the refs., and I read your link about the reporter who did.

Kk, after a quick research the article I read was linked by Miss Jasmine #625. I am not sure who the arthur is just follow the link she has there. In that article there is a paragraph that about seattles penalites, drop, poor clock management, and a critical fouth-quarter interception.

 

[tinatark]

There are always bad calls. Someone will always be on the receiving end of bad calls.

I'm so sick of this new mentality - from the Olympics, to NFL, College games...

Time to move on. No recount, no replays.

Every NFL team is now undefeated

 

[Alicnwondrln]

But you didnt notice the other one that didnt blame the refs?
I saw both on that thread. Thanks for being honest.

MIchael smiths article was on espn.com the day after i have not seen anyone elses
who was the author?
I dont appreciate being called a liar.
ETA: Irvin, Jaws, young, jackson, berman with linda Cohen all said the game was effected by refs
i have seen articles saying the refs had nothing to do with it but the majority think it did

 

[Alicnwondrln]

big ben was just on the grammys he anounced kelly clarkson

 

[LoVeMe4mEx 08]

ohh boy...im prolly just gonna say the same thing that everyone else did. but oh well

yes, he said the thought he wasnt in. but that was BEFORE he saw the tapes. the view from on-field is different from the view of the cameras. (duhh..obviously ppl dont realize that). just watch the replay. it was ruled "undisputed evidence" so get over it. its over. either way, we would have won.

oh yeah and remember all you Steeler-bashers who said that the Steelers wouldnt get a Super Bowl, especially with Cowher as a coach?
well, we told you, didnt we? how does it feel now?

 

[rhiannonwales]

I'd also like to add that the Steelers are famous for having blown calls against them... Thanksgiving 98 comes to mind..... anyone remeber the infamous head tails cointoss incident?
And yet, even though calls are blown on them all the time, and yes the have lost important games because of it, never once have i seen the total unsportsman like conduct that Mike Holmgren has shown.

Sometimes things go wrong (although i believe it was a TD) and theres nothing you can do about it.Hey - no one called the ridiculous back block by a seahawk on Roethlisberger in the 2nd half - and if they had it would have turned over a seahawks interception.
Moaning cant change whats done.Sometimes refs suck.But thers only so ar you can go to make sure its fair.At some point youve got watchers watching the watcher, and thats just crazy.No one is perfect - not even the refs.
Sherrie

 

[poohandwendy]

LOL at "the refs affected the outcome"...yeah? That is what refs do, they call the game as they see it. There has not been one call that can be deemed wrong with any level of credible evidence. If anything, you can say they were too strict, but they didn't make up bogus rules and apply them. If the Seahawks cannot handle playing the game with calls that they feel are unfair, they will never win a Sb. I think they CAN and I think they will, just not this year. I think the fans are the ones who cannot handle it.

As far as the win, certain people may always add a 'but' to the end of it. sour grapes. Who cares? Most people will be over it before the next season starts.

The bottom line is the Steelers played the game, they won SB XL...end of story.

 

[LoVeMe4mEx 08]

also...you cant just go back and re-do a football game. so just take it as it is and have good sportsmanship or just be a baby and whine and complain about it. its your choice but complaining gets you nowhere

 

[Alicnwondrln]

LoVeMe4mEx 08

like your signature

 

[swea_pea1]

MIchael smiths article was on espn.com the day after i have not seen anyone elses
who was the author?
I dont appreciate being called a liar.

I'm pretty sure nothing is going to convince you, but here's an excerpt from the article darrose is referencing (I'm pretty sure). The author is Gene Wojciechowski:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=wojciechowski_gene&id=2322300

No one can deny there were questionable calls during the game. But before Holmgren and Latte Nation start whining about playing "the guys in the striped shirts as well,'' perhaps a history lesson is in order.

The striped shirts didn't cause tight end Jerramy Stevens to drop four passes. The striped shirts didn't cause the Seahawks defense to give up a Steelers first down on a third-and-28 situation (which later led to the Roethlisberger disputed TD). The striped shirts didn't cause the Seahawks defense to give up the longest touchdown run in Super Bowl history. They also didn't cause Etric Pruitt to sprint up from his safety position, only to be fooled by the trick play that resulted in Randle El's 43-yard TD pass to Ward (and by the way, if everyone knows the Steelers like to run gadget plays near midfield, don't you think the Seahawks knew it too?). Or cause Seahawks quarterback Matt Hasselbeck to throw a killer interception with nearly 11 minutes left in the game and Seattle trailing by only four points.

Enough already with the whining. The Seahawks had their chances. Plenty of them to overcome the Steelers and, if they insist, the refs, too.

Holmgren, who didn't exactly distinguish himself in the waning minutes of both halves, is no doubt suffering some post-Super Bowl anger. Perfectly understandable, especially in front of the thousands who greeted the team upon its return to Seattle. But days, weeks, months from now, when he's able to think more clearly, he'll realize the only people to blame for the loss were wearing Seahawks metallic blue, not black and white.

Since you're admittedly a Pats fan, should we go on ad nauseum about how the Pats got an extra 52 seconds earlier in the season to beat the Steelers? When that occured, Dan Rooney commented "'There's nothing to say. The game's over. It's not going to change the score.'' Can you say you're being as gracious?

 

[darrose]

That article is even better than the one Miss Jasmine linked on the Steeler thread. Thanks I remember reading that one too which is one of the reasons I started to get paranoid on just where I had read some of the game reports.

 

[Alicnwondrln]

I'm pretty sure nothing is going to convince you, but here's an excerpt from the article darrose is referencing (I'm pretty sure). The author is Gene Wojciechowski:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=wojciechowski_gene&id=2322300

Since you're admittedly a Pats fan, should we go on ad nauseum about how the Pats got an extra 52 seconds earlier in the season to beat the Steelers? When that occured, Dan Rooney commented "'There's nothing to say. The game's over. It's not going to change the score.'' Can you say you're being as gracious?

yes but i wanna be like all of you and just say it doenst matter refs make bad calls get over it
i have already heard it all about the pats

eta also are you being gracious by saying the refs didnt help you when they did would it kill you to say yeah we got lucky with alot calls almost every call but we came out on top

 

[ElizaB39]

Great article, thanks!

 

[darrose]

yes but i wanna be like all of you and just say it doenst matter refs make bad calls get over it
i have already heard it all about the pats

eta also are you being gracious by saying the refs didnt help you when they did would it kill you to say yeah we got lucky with alot calls almost every call but we came out on top

So let me get this straight...you believe that almost every call was a conspiracy against the Seahawks?

 

[poohandwendy]

eta also are you being gracious by saying the refs didnt help you when they did would it kill you to say yeah we got lucky with alot calls almost every call but we came out on top
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I would say that they were following the letter of the law too strictly with a few of them, but I do not agree that they helped us. I think the fact that the Seahawks did not monopolize on the windfall during the first half (because we were not in the game) was their downfall. And THAT is what helped us. (in my opinion)

 

[Alicnwondrln]

So let me get this straight...you believe that almost every call was a conspiracy against the Seahawks?

no i dont think so .... i think it was just the way it went
i dont agree with the calls the majority doesnt
the problem is EVERY playoff game had SOOOO many issues
the pats were totally cheesed in denver
you guys in indy ( do you think that was a conspiracy)
there was a bad call or at least 3 in each game
doesnt look good for the nfl, it takes away from the games and their legitamacy

 

[darrose]

I think that no matter what the game, (football, basketball, baseball, etc) will have people from both teams questioning the calls the ref. make.

 

[darrose]

What do you want the Steelers to do, just hand over the championship? Where are they suppose to go from here? They did not make these calls. As a Hawk player stated, this is out of your hands, what are you going to do? Well, the same applies to the Steelers.

I think we've proven that the Steelers would still have won if the TD wasn't taken back AND Ben's TD was. You would have gotten 4 more points, we'd have had 4 less. You still lose!

 

[darrose]

There are always bad calls. Someone will always be on the receiving end of bad calls.

I'm so sick of this new mentality - from the Olympics, to NFL, College games...

Time to move on. No recount, no replays.

Every NFL team is now undefeated

It does seem to be a new trend.

 

[swea_pea1]

yes but i wanna be like all of you and just say it doenst matter refs make bad calls get over it
i have already heard it all about the pats

eta also are you being gracious by saying the refs didnt help you when they did would it kill you to say yeah we got lucky with alot calls almost every call but we came out on top

And that's the point. We did get over it. We got over it by the skin of our teeth to be the sixth seed in the AFC. We got over it by beating three higher seeded teams on their turf to get to the Super Bowl. And the sweetest revenge of all, we got over it to beat the Seahawks (the #1 seeded team in the NFL) to be World Champions. We got over it by making history.

I will not say we got "lucky". That diminishes the hard work, the blood and sweat, the losses we endured when Ben couldn't play (and for me personally, the intense fear that Maddox may have to finish out our season ) to get to the top. Like PAW, I will agree that we played a lackluster first half and the refs were calling the game pretty tight. But anything can happen on any given Sunday and last Sunday it was our turn.

So be a good sport and be gracious. The game is played and nothing can change the outcome.