mill4023 said:
Apparently NED had a bad day, needed to have a tantrum about something, and couldn't find any TGM threads handy.
Gee, I haven't replied on over a day, yet people still feel the need to insult me for my views. I did not throw a tantrum, I think you read into things whatever you choose. As to TGM...uh, haven't posted on that topic in a long while, if people want to waste their money on what can be had elsewhere for free, I've decided it's their business. The cult of TGM is just not worth discussing anymore. They speak for themselves - it's kind of creepy, like "The Stepford Wives". You either are one of them, or you aren't. I'm not.
Perhaps you should examine why my belief that it is increibly selfish of a parent to bring a newborn to WDW bothers you all so much. If I am so wrong, so ignorant, throwing "tantrums", etc., then why has virtually every reply to this thread been belittling against me instead of sticking to the topic? If you were "so right" then wouldn't simple facts be enough? Instead, people have to get in jabs and snitty little bits to make themselves feel better, apparently.
Get over it. I came in and expressed my opinion : I believe it is not safe to take a 3 month old on a ride, a DIRECT response to the OP's question. And, I'm sorry, but any REASONABLE person is going to agree with me that breast feeding ON a ride is unnecesary. Just because a few mommies came in here full force does not mean that represents the views of nearly everyone. Most people see it as a special, private thing between a mom and a child, and simply wouldn't ride a ride if their child was near a feeding time. Most women I know would find that very odd that someone would WANT to feed a child on a theme park ride, let alone they'd argue their rights in the matter. That's where the selfish part comes in. If your child is going to need a feeding, perhaps jumping on a ride isn't the smartest thing. (And to those who keep saying it's off topic, the OP and another poster brought it up as an option - I did not begin talking about this.)
But of course, I have an objective view of this. I'm not the parent of YOUR kids. When we all know how special YOUR kid is, and how YOUR kid should get what it wants and YOU should never have to, say, sacrifice a 2-minute theme park ride for YOUR child, it's hard for people to read what I actually said and respond intelligently. That's basically why I avoided replying until this point, because people weren't responding to what I actually said, simply what they believed I meant and adding petty insults. I could add petty insults to my argument as well, but it's unnecessary. I keep talking about my opinion...and I get lectured about "rights" that I was not unaware of. Just because you feel it's your "right" to take your newborn on a ride, doesn't make it the right thing to do.
I agree, you can whip it out and feed your baby whenever you want. I still do think it is not appropriate on a theme park ride, as I clearly stated earlier, and I do believe that it would technically be against the rules, again, as I clearly showed earlier how the law could be interpreted that way as consuming beverages is not allowed on those rides. This is for many reasons, least of which if you are on a group ride, like IASW, you are exposing people to potentially bio-hazzardous material (yes, breast milk is a bodily fluid, like blood, spit, etc.). That's yet another reason it's just not a good idea to do it on a ride. that close to others (you sit inches away from strangers).
HOWEVER, I've got people here telling me I must hate kids, if I have kids they must be bad, etc. etc. All because of the common sense conclusion that a theme park ride is not the right place to nurse. I wonder how many doctors would say, "Sure, do it right on a ride!" My guess is not many. It baffles me that someone would argue this...I bet it's perfectly "legal" to jump out of a plane, and breast feed your child while parachuting...that doesn't mean it's sensible or right, yet that seems just as odd to me.
The truth is, you percieve that I have something against you, but I don't. I just have a different sense of what is appropriate. When you post to a message board like this, you need to expect differing opinions. If you don't like that, do not post. But insulting me personally (and seemingly randomly) doesn't help the perception that you believe your experience is more important than others. It's what leads to the furor on this issue. I'm sure some think I insulted them by criticizing the behavior, but talking about behavior and responding is much differnent than just taking random jabs at someone just to make yourself feel better.
So again, continue to bash me for my belief, and I'll continue to feel bad for these poor kids that are being jostled around, new to the world, brough on rides I feel is inappropriate for them to be on because their parents failed to realize that
maybe taking an exhausting vacation to WDW isn't the smartest thing to do when you can still measure your child's age in weeks.
Again, my opinion. It's apparent none of you care (you've said that over and over) what I think, so hopefully my opinion won't affect you at all. Somehow, I doubt it. I tried to leave this thread alone, as I did feel I said what I felt, but apparently people can't resist continuing to discuss my opinion still so y'all have brought me back. Why you can't accept my opinion and move on is beyond me, but if people continue the personal attacks I feel I have no choice but to respond. As I said earlier, I do believe I've said my piece...but if y'all want to keep this going, I'm game. I'm confident in my beliefs, and you are too, so it seems useless...but since it's pages later and people are still attempting to insult me, I guess that means you wish to continue.
Guess I hit some nerve.
Fire away.
NED