Revolution

[BDL]

I'm starting to get a little irked at some of the holes that everyone here keeps pointing out in regards to the technology limits of the people on this show. Come on people ... It's called priorities. The 1st bit of tech that people would need is the crossbow. For defense or hunting. The #2 bit of tech that people need, and I don't disagree, is a still. I love that everywhere they go, you can see a still in the background.

So, for all those who say "why don't they use steam power?", there you go. It's being used the best way possible. To get snockerred.

 

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

I'm starting to get a little irked at some of the holes that everyone here keeps pointing out in regards to the technology limits of the people on this show. Come on people ... It's called priorities. The 1st bit of tech that people would need is the crossbow. For defense or hunting. The #2 bit of tech that people need, and I don't disagree, is a still. I love that everywhere they go, you can see a still in the background.

So, for all those who say "why don't they use steam power?", there you go. It's being used the best way possible. To get snockerred.

Funny, we were watching "how booze changed america" and they were talking about beer being the pilgrims "go to" drink. as well as other distilled spirits!

 

[Topper]

I personally was impressed by the mother's perfectly laundered and pressed white cotton shirt.

Hand cranked washing machine

Butane iron

 

[GRUMPY PIRATE]

don't need that fancy stuff.

just a pail, soap, and a brush


and a stove with a flat iron.

 

[torinsmom]

anyone have troubles with dvr'ing this?
it has twice stopped at 58 minutes,
I tried even adding 5 min to the record time, it still went black at 58 minutes until the 11-00 news started.
I don't get it.
last I saw was the guy walk up & turn on the cattle prod

what happened then?

I believe that was the end of the episode, so you just missed the previews of next week.

 

[Colleen27]

I personally was impressed by the mother's perfectly laundered and pressed white cotton shirt.

The bold was really obvious to me (Mom too)..the "adults" all look exactly the same it seems as they did 15 years prior and I do think that was a bit poorly done for sure.

It is the magic of television... If you look at everything through that lens you'll never find a show to enjoy because they've all got their holes, particularly with regard to looking too young, too well-groomed, and too healthy for their situations. It is TV, not a movie with the budget to edit the flashbacks to make the characters look more youthful or use makeup effects to age them for every episode.

I'm starting to get a little irked at some of the holes that everyone here keeps pointing out in regards to the technology limits of the people on this show. Come on people ... It's called priorities. The 1st bit of tech that people would need is the crossbow. For defense or hunting. The #2 bit of tech that people need, and I don't disagree, is a still. I love that everywhere they go, you can see a still in the background.

So, for all those who say "why don't they use steam power?", there you go. It's being used the best way possible. To get snockerred.

It seems to me that they're using combustible fuels the only way you would in a non-electric world - for heating, cooking, etc. I suppose some might turn their attention to reviving steam engines for transportation but that's way down the list of survival needs and likely too slow and too inefficient to be valuable as a means of warfare/control.

 

[Claudia1]

I wish these kinds of shows would answer a question or give a small resolution with each episode. I know that cliff-hangers are traditional both in literature and in series TV, but I like the format of "Touch" better. The ongoing story is being developed with cliff-hangers and new info but you have the sense of closure with each episode.

Just my opinion....... I could get tired of this show real fast, I think......

 

[sam_gordon]

Regarding the clothes, I still have some of my high school clothes in a box in the basement. Those are almost 25 years old. I still regularly wear a sweatshirt that's are over a decade old. It's from a college football bowl game, so it has the date on it.

 

[luvmy3]

I have tried to get into the show but I just can't. I can't get over the fact that in the 15 years since it happened someone couldn't figure out how to fix things. I mean its not like these people were living in the stone ages before electricity existed and knew nothing about its existence. Or why the dad or the others with the little power thing didn't do something about it after 5 or 10 years.

Maybe this show is just NBCs way of showing us how our education system is doomed to fail us in the future

On a side note, I think Billy Burke is pretty hot.

 

[SAHDad]

It seems to me that they're using combustible fuels the only way you would in a non-electric world - for heating, cooking, etc. I suppose some might turn their attention to reviving steam engines for transportation but that's way down the list of survival needs and likely too slow and too inefficient to be valuable as a means of warfare/control.

Aside from the fact that 15 years is more than long enough for people to have gone beyond "basic survival" mode, and start climbing back up - stream locomotives are much faster than horses (and the tracks are still there - hell, there are operating steam locos today. Not many, but they do exist. And are fairly simple to build - after all, they were being built prior to the electric age). Steam paddlewheels (and armored vessels like the Monitor and Merrimac) surely would be seen on any major river within a decade.

Steam power pretty much created and drove the Industrial Revolution. And, after 15 years, the fact that it has not reappeared it bothering me more and more.

 

[sam_gordon]

Aside from the fact that 15 years is more than long enough for people to have gone beyond "basic survival" mode, and start climbing back up - stream locomotives are much faster than horses (and the tracks are still there - hell, there are operating steam locos today. Not many, but they do exist. And are fairly simple to build - after all, they were being built prior to the electric age). Steam paddlewheels (and armored vessels like the Monitor and Merrimac) surely would be seen on any major river within a decade.

Steam power pretty much created and drove the Industrial Revolution. And, after 15 years, the fact that it has not reappeared it bothering me more and more.

Just to play devil's advocate, I don't believe we've seen any river to see if steam ships are being used. Regarding the locomotives, could it be argued that the trains and cars on the tracks are blocking the tracks from being used? Just a thought.

 

[luvmy3]

Aside from the fact that 15 years is more than long enough for people to have gone beyond "basic survival" mode, and start climbing back up - stream locomotives are much faster than horses (and the tracks are still there - hell, there are operating steam locos today. Not many, but they do exist. And are fairly simple to build - after all, they were being built prior to the electric age). Steam paddlewheels (and armored vessels like the Monitor and Merrimac) surely would be seen on any major river within a decade.

Steam power pretty much created and drove the Industrial Revolution. And, after 15 years, the fact that it has not reappeared it bothering me more and more.

I'm with you, I can't enjoy the show because I'm so bothered by the fact that the people have done nothing significant to help themselves survive and move foward (or back to the way things were).

But again, Billy Burke is pretty hot so at least I'm enjoying him.

 

[BDL]

The whole "still" post that I put up was more meant for levity than controversy. But, since some people are taking the ball and running with it, here's a counter point.

One reason why the people are less inclined to try to advance themselves, is because that's what happens in a feudal society. Those in power do their best to keep, knowledge, weapons and technology out of the hands of the masses. Just look at the Dark Ages. 1000 years of stagnation. Then, came the Italian Renaissance. Shortly after that, 1 invention helped slam the door on the Dark Ages. Gutenberg's printing press. Now, even the lowest of commoners can learn how to read and information can be shared. Until that point, the "Haves" worked hard to keep their heel on the "Have nots".

Also, on the show, they only show 1 of the republics that rose up after the chaos. For all we know, there could be a Pacific Island nation, or a community in the deepest part of the Amazon or the Congo that are the technological leaders of the world; utilizing steam and coal. They can do this because they are not vulnerable to any kind of attack and have kept some of their pre-industrial traditions alive and well to this day.

 

[disney1990]

I meant to watch it and forgot. I will go to ABC and find it. Unfortunately, every time I get involved in one of these shows, it gets cancelled and them I am bummed out.

 

[Princess Dolly]

I meant to watch it and forgot. I will go to ABC and find it. Unfortunately, every time I get involved in one of these shows, it gets cancelled and them I am bummed out.

It's on NBC.

 

[mill4023]

I think a lot of the annoying things could have been fixed by just saying it's 5 years later instead of 15.
Second episode was definitely more interesting than the first.
But the first 15 minutes still had me shaking my head and yelling at the TV. I like the Nora character a lot more than any of the other characters, so I'm hoping she will be a big part of the show.

 

[HM]

I'm irritated with Aaron for showing the 'locket of power' to the step-mom. If the dad had wanted her to know about it, he would have told her a long time ago...after all they were lovers.

 

[sam_gordon]

I'm irritated with Aaron for showing the 'locket of power' to the step-mom. If the dad had wanted her to know about it, he would have told her a long time ago...after all they were lovers.

I agree. It seemed strange.

 

[furb & dez]

One reason why the people are less inclined to try to advance themselves, is because that's what happens in a feudal society. Those in power do their best to keep, knowledge, weapons and technology out of the hands of the masses. Just look at the Dark Ages. 1000 years of stagnation. Then, came the Italian Renaissance. Shortly after that, 1 invention helped slam the door on the Dark Ages. Gutenberg's printing press. Now, even the lowest of commoners can learn how to read and information can be shared. Until that point, the "Haves" worked hard to keep their heel on the "Have nots".

One could argue that this is still largely the case... but that is another thread!

 

[Colleen27]

Aside from the fact that 15 years is more than long enough for people to have gone beyond "basic survival" mode, and start climbing back up - stream locomotives are much faster than horses (and the tracks are still there - hell, there are operating steam locos today. Not many, but they do exist. And are fairly simple to build - after all, they were being built prior to the electric age). Steam paddlewheels (and armored vessels like the Monitor and Merrimac) surely would be seen on any major river within a decade.

Steam power pretty much created and drove the Industrial Revolution. And, after 15 years, the fact that it has not reappeared it bothering me more and more.

I'm not sure 15 years is long enough to get out of basic survival mode when there are so few people in the world who have even a fundamental level of experience with or knowledge of the skills that would be required in a powered-down world. There is also a great deal of conditioned helplessness in our culture (the "wait for FEMA" mindset that shines through in the wake of natural disasters) that I think would prolong the initial chaos and delay any meaningful efforts to move forward.

Look at what happened after the fall of Rome... Europe saw centuries go by without real progress or advancement, and that was in an age where a far greater share of the population was accustomed to subsistence living and knew far more about providing for their own basic needs than we do today.