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[jtowntoflorida]

Why are people insisting that there are ADR scalping services out there? Every single one that I know of relies on the user to go to MDE by themselves to get a reservation that may or may not still be there when they finally log in. If they were truly "scalping" there would either have to be a third party website where the exchange is made, or some sort of coordination of drop/pick up between the scalper and the recipient - whether that be through phone, email or the scalper having access to that person's MDE account.

All the services do is alert you. They don't do anything more.

There actually is one that sells the actual reservation (I haven't seen it mentioned in this thread). Even someone like me with loose vacation-related morals, who takes a "my family before all others" approach, finds that particular service distasteful.

 

[ArwenMarie]

Exactly. I used Disney Dining Buddy to get a Jedi Mickey dinner during SWW (because plans changed and so my original dinner time no longer worked for us) and though I was able to get an ADR for the time I wanted right around the 30 day mark, I kept the notification on out of curiosity. I was shocked at how many drops there were just the day before. You know when it comes to SWW not all those people just decided not to eat at the last minute...there had to have been a ton of people who were holding on to them as at the last minute "just in case." And just in case is what's making Disney planning so hard. I know I snatch up FP+s for certain attractions "just in case" because I KNOW that if I don't get 'em while they're hot, I'll be shut out. ADRs are the same. I have CRT, 1900 Park Fare, two BOG dinners, and two BOG breakfasts I'm holding onto right now "just in case." I'll release them eventually, but until our plans are final-final (i.e., after FP+s and after we figure out what's going on with TSMM) I'm not dropping any of them because I know they'll be impossible to get back without extraordinary effort (either paying a service to watch for me or checking MDE constantly).

That's interesting to see the drops using DD Buddy. There's absolutely no incentive to drop them earlier, makes total sense.

 

[Julylady]

Last December I was able to get a walk up reservation at Sci Fi Theatre. We were with just the two of us and the greeter asked if we would mind "hitchhiking" with another family. We said no and were seated in the third seat with another family in the first and second seat. So, if its just the two of you and you can't get a ADR, try just stopping by the greeter stand and asking.

 

[sunflare]

There actually is one that sells the actual reservation (I haven't seen it mentioned in this thread).

Really? Which one? That's a new one for me. All the names I've heard of on various boards have all been ping machines.

 

[BillyBuff]

Many different factors...

http://www.themeparkinsider.com/flume/201508/4686/

 

[jtowntoflorida]

Really? Which one? That's a new one for me. All the names I've heard of on various boards have all been ping machines.

I'm sorry, I can't remember the name. I looked through my old posts, but I apparently didn't respond to the post where I read about it. When you go to their website, they have a list of available ADRs, listed by restaurant and time, that you can "buy." From the FAQs, it looks like they then coordinate a drop with you, and as such they can't guarantee that you'll actually get the reservation. They only had ADRs listed for a few places, but I know BOG was on there, as well as Akershus and that Minnie holiday dinner thing that's going on.

 

[sunflare]

Huh. That sounds remarkably like the setup for ADR Sniper (I'm pretty sure they had a "Buy" button for their watches at one point, but it now says "Activate"). That one is still a ping only service though. Google and Facebook search is failing me, otherwise... I still can't find one that will actually coordinate a drop.

 

[jtowntoflorida]

Huh. That sounds remarkably like the setup for ADR Sniper (I'm pretty sure they had a "Buy" button for their watches at one point, but it now says "Activate"). That one is still a ping only service though. Google and Facebook search is failing me, otherwise... I still can't find one that will actually coordinate a drop.

I found it by looking through my browser history, but I don't want to name it on here because I don't want to give them any free advertising. Sorry! But I use ADR Sniper and it's nothing that. You click on a month and restaurant name, and they list what time they have available and for what party size. Right now they have a ton of BOG breakfasts for October (the month I was looking at) presumably because the snatched them last week when the ADRs went live. They have a bunch of the Minnie Holiday Dining thing presumably for the same reason. They seem to have a sliding fee schedule based on popularity of the restaurant, the time, and the number of guests.

 

[sunflare]

I found it by looking through my browser history, but I don't want to name it on here because I don't want to give them any free advertising. Sorry! But I use ADR Sniper and it's nothing that. You click on a month and restaurant name, and they list what time they have available and for what party size. Right now they have a ton of BOG breakfasts for October (the month I was looking at) presumably because the snatched them last week when the ADRs went live. They have a bunch of the Minnie Holiday Dining thing presumably for the same reason. They seem to have a sliding fee schedule based on popularity of the restaurant, the time, and the number of guests.

Then I guess I'll have to keep Googling until I find it, then... eventually, Google will know everything I'm very surprised it hasn't come up more often in these forums or Facebook, however (or the admins are quicker on the delete button that we thought!)

 

[Paula25]

I'm not going during free dining, and I had the same observation as the OP. ADRs are full the first week in December to a point that I also noticed it was different than prior years. Based on threads I have read, I believe the reasons are 1) the services that will allow you to pay them to track when ADRs become available (I've been over-planning WDW trips since 1990 and this is the first time I've heard of them) and 2) My Disney Experience.

MDE helps people who may not otherwise figure out they need to plan in advance to plan in advance. Used to be that only 5% of us or so were crazy over-the-top plan everything people. Now, Disney is leading people through the process so many, many more people are waking up to the idea of advance planning.

I have NO empirical evidence for this, but then neither does anyone else!

 

[Barbara76]

When did My Disney Experience start? Our first family Disney trip was in 2013 and I planned using MDE and we were on the beta trials for the magic bands, so I really don't know anything else.

 

[Paula25]

My first time to use MDE was also in 2013, but it still seemed optional. And until relatively recently, it wasn't all that reliable. The site would go up and down, and it was still possible to have a WDW vacation without it. Now, there are still some occasional issues with the site, but nothing like before. I think people are trusting it more and using it more and as a result, planning ahead more.

 

[Barbara76]

Honestly since it was my first experience I wouldn't know how to plan without it? Was it all over he phone before that? (silly question?)

 

[Paula25]

Yes - And in a very extensive Excel spreadsheet.

 

[Barbara76]

That might have been fun in it's own way

 

[Paula25]

That might have been fun in it's own way

It was! And I admit a little hard to give up, but I love technology and MDE is MORE fun....

 

[rcraw45425]

MDE has made "last minute" trips extremely difficult. We never plan a trip more than 90 days out, but now if you don't you're up a creek. We were just at the Contemporary in May and I booked that trip after the first of the year, managed to get my ADRs and booked the Fast Passes at 60 days. Decided to take my two college girls and a friend of theirs for F&W and the Halloween Party (super quick trip due to their classes and no fall breaks) and I was able to book Fast Passes, but ADRs have been a challenge, more so than in Fall's past. Hubby and I have done solo trips the past two Octobers and each one has been busier than the one prior. No more slow times. Thankfully, we're close enough that we can go more often and don't feel upset if we only ride a handful of rides. I feel sorry for the families that are not so fortunate.

 

[grandmomhop]

I read on another thread of someone sitting by a person that was cancelling her unwanted adrs for the next day. She booked in two hour increments for the day. If there is a lot of that going on, it could really tie up reservations until the week of. We booked at 180 +, got most of what we hoped for, just some are at odd times. Still happy that we're getting to go this year

 

[Disneyliscious]

I have a few extra reservations as well. I do not see it as locking others out. We are still over 60 days from our trip, and I am finalizing plans over the next week or two and will release them. I have also been able to move some things around with persistent checking as other people adjust their plans as well.

I do the best I can to plan everything at 180 days, but there are some days that we don't have set in stone that far out.

There actually is one that sells the actual reservation (I haven't seen it mentioned in this thread). Even someone like me with loose vacation-related morals, who takes a "my family before all others" approach, finds that particular service distasteful.

Really? Which one? That's a new one for me. All the names I've heard of on various boards have all been ping machines.

In theory, the "scalpers" hoarding ADRs are no different than anyone else hoarding ADRs. No one is making you purchase a scalped ADR. Its a choice. If the ADR is not purchased, it says the ADR goes back into the Disneys ADR list 72 hours before the ADR time. So its available for the taking, for free, just as if any of us were to release it. The only difference is that if someone wants to pay for their service of booking it, they have that option.

Sunflare, jtown is talking about Dis Dining Agent. They coordinate times to release a reservation and some they put the ADR in your name so there is no chance of you missing it but those are more expensive.

 

[Boopuff]

We are on our way to www now. I grabbed ADR but I got most of them at DTD and resorts. I think people forget those options