Resort Time to sell out?

[patm95]

Hi all. Question for my own curiosity. Traditionally, how long has it taken for a Disney resort to sell out? I'm especially interested in how long the older resorts took. OKW, Vero, ect. Has it been taking longer for resorts to sell out in recent years?

Thanks!

 

[TinkAgainU]

Hi all. Question for my own curiosity. Traditionally, how long has it taken for a Disney resort to sell out? I'm especially interested in how long the older resorts took. OKW, Vero, ect. Has it been taking longer for resorts to sell out in recent years?

Thanks!

Unless someone has kept track of that info already, it would take some effort, but in theory, you can go to the Florida records office online and pull the deeds from DVC to new owners and see how many were sold each month. Would work for the Florida Resorts only. Keeping in mind, even after a resort is "sold out" DVC continued to take back contracts thru ROFR and resell, so it would be a best guess by volume thing.

It would be hard to compare them, as you can see from this Room Inventory Chart from the DVC Field Guide (which I love using for reference lol)... some of the Resorts, like Grand Californian, had so few rooms, it's hard to compare that selling time to the larger Resorts.

 

[patm95]

Great points. Sounds like there are a lot of variables!

 

[muppets3d]

I asked ChatGPT for OKW just to get a starting point, and it said that OKW sold out in about 7 years, and cited this page. https://www.dvchelp.com/page/old-key-west-resort-information-page?utm_source=chatgpt.com

You could probably get similar answers for every resort you're interested in.

As with everything involving LLMs, take the answer you're given with a grain of salt (indeed, the page that ChatGPT uses as its reference quotes an 8 year sellout).

 

[patm95]

I asked ChatGPT for OKW just to get a starting point, and it said that OKW sold out in about 7 years, and cited this page. https://www.dvchelp.com/page/old-key-west-resort-information-page?utm_source=chatgpt.com

You could probably get similar answers for every resort you're interested in.

As with everything involving LLMs, take the answer you're given with a grain of salt (indeed, the page that ChatGPT uses as its reference quotes an 8 year sellout).

Thank you. I often forget we have AI as a resource.

 

[byurick]

You can also just use a search engine, I googled "how long did old key west take to sell out" and got the same answer/website as above.

 

[IsDVCForMe?]

The least I've paid recently was 8%, my contract sizes were small (25 to 75 points) and sold quickly. I would also ask if the Broker charges any additional Buyer fees (I know www.fidelityrealestate.com does, not sure if any others do) and avoid them since with the new $500 fee Disney tacked on, there are already enough extra fees to negotiate with a Buyer without those.

As a buyer, go slow and only buy a contract where the sellers pay the closing costs. They’re the ones who chose the broker, why would I pay the broker’s fees? Especially Fidelity with the extra fee.

 

[AstroBlasters]

As a buyer, go slow and only buy a contract where the sellers pay the closing costs. They’re the ones who chose the broker, why would I pay the broker’s fees? Especially Fidelity with the extra fee.

You are much better off just negotiating the upfront price then haggling over the closing cost in my opinion. The upfront price means that the seller pays less commission to the broker versus the closing cost where that doesn’t impact the brokers commission.

 

[Cfabar1]

You are much better off just negotiating the upfront price then haggling over the closing cost in my opinion. The upfront price means that the seller pays less commission to the broker versus the closing cost where that doesn’t impact the brokers commission.

Not only that, but if Disney ROFRs the contract the seller will have to pay Disney the closing costs... Not sure it really matters, but I think psychologically it will at the very least...

 

[AstroBlasters]

Not only that, but if Disney ROFRs the contract the seller will have to pay Disney the closing costs... Not sure it really matters, but I think psychologically it will at the very least...

It’s a great point!

 

[IsDVCForMe?]

Not only that, but if Disney ROFRs the contract the seller will have to pay Disney the closing costs... Not sure it really matters, but I think psychologically it will at the very least...

That’s a great point. When I offered, I assumed Disney only looked at the price per point. Which is why I went higher there and wanted all closing costs covered by sellers. But if they look at the whole package, ya that’d matter. I’m also a newbie, so not really sure what they look at.

As my spouse said, it feels good psychologically not paying closing costs as they’re sunk costs. I don’t mind paying $110 per point for a small AKV contract.

 

[Brian Noble]

From where I sit, the out-the-door price is what matters, and I don't particularly care who pays what. If I am thinking about making an offer, I am more likely to put my negotiating "weight" behind the price-per-point rather than that plus ask for closing costs. The one exception might be if the price per point is already attractive relative to the overall market. In that case I might go the other way.

However, I am also not the "get the lowest cost possible" guy, because my time and sanity has value too. I don't want (or need) to spend many hours to save hundreds of dollars.

 

[IsDVCForMe?]

From where I sit, the out-the-door price is what matters, and I don't particularly care who pays what. If I am thinking about making an offer, I am more likely to put my negotiating "weight" behind the price-per-point rather than that plus ask for closing costs. The one exception might be if the price per point is already attractive relative to the overall market. In that case I might go the other way.

However, I am also not the "get the lowest cost possible" guy, because my time and sanity has value too. I don't want (or need) to spend many hours to save hundreds of dollars.

Spend hours? It takes 15 seconds to put in an offer and another 15 seconds to counter.

 

[Genie+]

Part of how long it takes an active resort to sell out is how many points to begin with. When Grand Floridian went back on sale they only had 2 million points to sell, Poly2 opened another 4 million points to sell. Riviera is closer to 7 million points.

Another part is how many resorts are actively selling at the same time.

For years DVC was selling 2 million points direct a year or slightly more. In recent years it’s been a bit under:

Annual DVC Direct Sales Trends (Points Sold)

• 2025: 1,873,089 points (approx.)
• 2024: 1,693,637 points
• 2023: 1,712,488 points

 

[Sandisw]

Spend hours? It takes 15 seconds to put in an offer and another 15 seconds to counter.

Some people spend a lot of time analyzing contracts and spend a lot of time with offers that don’t go anywhere and so they have to keep trying because the goal is lowest prices possible.

For us, it was always about a good deal but not turning it into a sport.

 

[IsDVCForMe?]

Some people spend a lot of time analyzing contracts and spend a lot of time with offers that don’t go anywhere and so they have to keep trying because the goal is lowest prices possible.

For us, it was always about a good deal but not turning it into a sport.

That would certainly be a problem. Patience is key.

 

[juliebee]

That would certainly be a problem. Patience is key.

patience is also time; time=hours. Some people spend days or months looking for the "perfect" contract at the cheapest price and I believe that is what Brian was talking about above.

 

[IsDVCForMe?]

patience is also time; time=hours. Some people spend days or months looking for the "perfect" contract at the cheapest price and I believe that is what Brian was talking about above.

Right but some people aren’t in a rush either, which goes back to patience is key.

 

[VGCgroupie]

Raise handSome people spend a lot of time analyzing contracts and spend a lot of time with offers that don’t go anywhere and so they have to keep trying because the goal is lowest prices possible.

For us, it was always about a good deal but not turning it into a sport.

Me … I turn it into a sport I think it’s fine for those who enjoy it. There are those who don’t and that’s fine too.

 

[IsDVCForMe?]

Me … I turn it into a sport I think it’s fine for those who enjoy it. There are those who don’t and that’s fine too.

Exactly. This has turned into a hobby for me. Maybe the deal I got wasn’t that good. But hopefully my next one will be. It’s fun lol. I love learning and Disney!